Well, yes, obviously

The figures, the first since the official Government-recommended drinking limits were amended, show that around 2.5 million people in mainland Britain exceed the new weekly levels in a single session.

Overall nine per cent – equivalent to 2.5 million adults across England, Scotland and Wales – admit to consuming more than 14 units of alcohol on their heaviest drinking day of a typical week.

If you lower the limits then more people will breach them. And 14 units is only 5 or 6 pints of reasonable beer. Otherwise known as ” a bevvy”.

12 thoughts on “Well, yes, obviously”

  1. It has been pointed out that the levels were set based on the alcohol people claim to have historically consumed and that these claims undershot sales by a factor 3.

    It’s only unhealthy to claim you drink more than 14 units.

  2. As “The Mash” says on one of its T shirts –
    “I think you are confusing a safe drinking limit with what I like to call ‘Lunch’ “

  3. And the use of the word “admit” conveys the idea that we are guilty for doing what is perfectly legal.

  4. All self-reported dietary and nutritional data are codswallop. Consequently small fortunes are spent eliciting said codswallop, and government policies are based thereon. It’s a strange pseudo-religion.

  5. And it’s not as if there’s even the faintest sniff of “science” behind these “guidlines” anyway… The 21 units, then 28 units, then 21 units and now 14 units were dragged out of someone’s a*se in the BMA’s office after a Times reporter phoned up with a question concerning an “alcohol” story he/she was writing..

  6. Chris SnowdOn drew my attention the the ONS tweeting “45% of drinkers drank more than 4.67 units in one day (1/3 of recommended weekly limit)” with some well-aimed mockery. I felt compelled to add I’ve drunk more than that in under a minute…

  7. Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells

    I wonder if the motivation behind these stupid limits is so health professionals can say to drinkers “You’re drinking five times the recommended limits”, rather than “You’re drinking too much”?

    Ideally meant to be ignored for those who exceed it by a multiple of two or three, perhaps?

    ( Similar to BMI being bollocks, but if you have a BMI of 50, you may have a weight problem and the doctor/nurse can bollock you using “science” )

  8. So Much For Subtlety

    Pogo – “And it’s not as if there’s even the faintest sniff of “science” behind these “guidlines” anyway… The 21 units, then 28 units, then 21 units and now 14 units were dragged out of someone’s a*se in the BMA’s office after a Times reporter phoned up with a question concerning an “alcohol” story he/she was writing..”

    +1. Can’t be said often enough. This is a case where Ian B is right. Some people just can’t stand some other people having a good time. The health consequences of drinking are completely divorced from the government’s guidelines as what evidence we have says that drinking fairly heavy amounts of alcohol is good for you. And by fairly heavy I mean downing more than six drinks a day is about as healthy as not drinking at all.

    In America the NIH funded the Framingham Study, and then banned the release of its findings, saying:

    The encouragement of undertaking drinking with the implication of prevention of coronary heart disease would be scientifically misleading and socially undesirable in view of the major health problem of alcoholism that already exists in the country.

  9. When I was 18 some local YCs were driven to a social event by a Communist bus driver. I drank eight pints of draught cider debating politics (several hours, warm night, thirsty) with aforesaid Communist before our host ran out of cider. I was not drunk, nor was he and he drove us home safely.
    [There was no 80 mgm limit in those days – what mattered was whether you were safe]
    How can they believe what they are saying? [Even apart from their insisting that Interested at 17 stone should drink no more than I should (not do)?]

  10. Bloke in Costa Rica

    Apparently a “unit” is 10ml of pure ethanol. So 14 of ’em is eight 350 ml cans of 5% ABV beer. A week? For fuck’s sake. A can a day and two on Friday night? If you have the wherewithal, and if you don’t have to go work every day and if you don’t have any family responsibilities, you can easily drink ten times as much as that for years, although you really, really shouldn’t (because you will eventually die horribly). Of course, most people don’t satisfy those criteria, but the limits are so risible as to cause many people to flout them to dangerous levels because they’re so sick of being hectored.

    It almost makes me wish I still drank.

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