How dare Bill Clinton shout over Black Lives Matter protesters?

Err, because the people had come to hear Bill Clinton speak?

52 thoughts on “How dare Bill Clinton shout over Black Lives Matter protesters?”

  1. Black Lives Matter must be a GOP front organisation. Blacks kill whites at proportionately vastly greater rates in the US – when they take time off from killing they own selves – and eventually even dumb white libs are going to get pissed off hearing this shite.

    And I love the way (a lot of) Dems now see Clinton as a racist – wasn’t he the first black president? But that’s the left – always ready with the airbrush.

    PS Steven W Thrasher – what a great name.

  2. It is a classic name. Fortunately in the article’s first line he admits to being ‘prejudiced’ – in this case a synonym for racism so his argument can safely be discounted (which is how it would work if a Donald Trump supporter attempted to write an article like this)

  3. @VP yep.

    The comments under the article are great. We’ve always known these people would turn on each other because that’s what they do. They are in a bait ball feeding frenzy now, I suspect because, with another Dem president on the way, and demographic change making it ever less likely that a GOP candidate will get elected in four years’ time, they can see the end point. The USA may well be fucked up beyond all repair.

  4. So Much For Subtlety

    I give Clinton credit for being willing to defend his record and his wife’s. Sure he is an amoral sleaze ball but he is a talented politician.

    He should talk over the protesters. What they are doing is borderline illegal. One day someone will shoot at them. I wouldn’t vote to convict. That is even without the fact that their cause is insane. Not just wrong but insanely immoral.

  5. The Inimitable Steve

    Whenever I see a conflict between a gutsy protester who is trying to show how black lives matter by interrupting a powerful white politician who has a microphone, I’m always going to be rooting for the protester

    Mmkay.

    I hailed the black women who interrupted Bernie Sanders in Seattle to commemorate Mike Brown

    Lol. Mike Brown was a drugged-up thug who had just robbed a corner shop before his Darwin award deserving decision to tussle with an armed policeman.

    If Mike Brown is anything to go by, you’re not really selling us on this “black lives matter” thing.

    And on Thursday, I cheered on protesters who interrupted Bill Clinton and exposed how ugly, racist and narcissistic he really is.

    Poor Bill. Spent a lifetime pandering to black voters and now all they see is another goddamned white man. So sad.

    I am used to him dog-whistling – trying to speak to conservatives in a frequency only they can hear.

    He also has a special hat to stop the secret CIA mind control beams getting to his brain.

    “When somebody won’t hush and listen to you, that ain’t democracy,” he continued, defensively. Actually, the freedom to speak truth to power is democracy in action – even if the speakers are black and Bill Clinton doesn’t like what they have to say.

    Black people screaming at you is democracy, guys. It’s what the Founding Fathers would’ve wanted.

    He bragged about adding police to the streets, making a case not for black liberation but for increased black surveillance,

    Because if there’s one thing black folks hate, it’s seeing drug dealers, burglars and rapists in their community get arrested by THE MAN. Steven knows this because he’s just your typical black far-left Guardian and BBC journalist, keepin it real yo!

    Let’s not forget: the assault on black life continues apace. According to the Guardian’s The Counted project, 277 people – some 57 of them black, a rate twice that of white people – have been killed by US police in 2016.

    In related news, black Americans still murder people at orders of magnitude higher than any other racial group.

    Cruz, Trump, Sanders and both Clintons – not to mention a media happy to obsess over the minutiae of their horse race – would be happy not to talk about any of these inconvenient truths.

    Inconvenient truths are so inconvenient, eh Steven?

  6. Inimitable Steve

    I knew this would bring your ‘A’ game out and you haven’t disappointed – a thread winner hands down on Comment 5 – absolute genius.

    Interested

    You are spot on – the US has had a good innings but it is now absolutely screwed, and with it probably the world – the only consolation is that the victory of the Democrats is likely to be pyrrhic and I can see an atrocity every month from ISIS or its equivalent In about a decade – and the likes of Thrasher will,still be rabbiting on about ‘White Power’…

  7. So Much For Subtlety

    The Inimitable Steve – “In related news, black Americans still murder people at orders of magnitude higher than any other racial group.”

    Blacks murder other people – mainly each other – at about the same rate that schizophrenics do. Police may shoot the occasional Black bystander, but they are trying to prevent young Black men shooting each other. Over all they do a poor job of it but it is better than nothing.

    If they do not like it, the best solution is separation. Let Black people live in Black neighbourhoods and vote for Black politicians who will enforce whatever standards of law and order Black people want. As in Detroit. Or even Baltimore where a multiracial group of police officers, under the authority of a Black sargeant, answering to a Black police Chief, who answered to a Black mayor, who came under the general supervision of the Justice Department, headed by a Black man who answered to a Black President, managed to torture a man to death.

  8. When your pin-ups are Brown and that Duggan scumbag over here, you know you are scraping the barrel.

    They wanted Martin Luther King, but they are happy with Brown and Duggan.

  9. “The USA may well be fucked up beyond all repair.”

    All European culture countries are fucked up beyond repair. Not sure why we insit on doing this to ourselves. Guilt I suppose? The future of the developed world is something a bit like South Africa but with added Islamic terrorism. It didn’t need to be this way.

  10. “How would he feel about a poor white man shouting at wealthy black Obama?”

    That would be racism. Black people are never in the wrong, remember.

  11. The Inimitable Steve

    Van_Patten – Thank you, kind sir.

    I”m a bit more optimistic about the future. Because (a) history isn’t a series of unbroken linear trends and (b) it’s preferable to pessimism.

    SMFS – Interestingly, I think we may have passed Peak PC already. If SJW’s seem more shrill and desperate than ever, it’s because they sense they’re losing control of the narrative.

    I hear a lot more more realtalk on crime and immigration and other touchy subjects now – on both sides of the Atlantic – than 10 years ago.

  12. If “Black Lives Matter” why don’t the ones killed by blacks matter? They clearly don’t, as the Left never mentions them.

    Some black lives clearly ‘matter’ more than others.

  13. So Much For Subtlety

    The Inimitable Steve – “Interestingly, I think we may have passed Peak PC already. If SJW’s seem more shrill and desperate than ever, it’s because they sense they’re losing control of the narrative.”

    They are more shrill because they have run out of people on the Right to shout down. They have to turn on each others because there is no one left. Just look at this site which has a readership not that different to the Guardian when it comes to things like sex and race.

    You can tell they are winning. Care of Steve Sailer:

    Pittsburgh TV Anchor Is Fired After Racial Facebook Post
    By DANIEL VICTOR MARCH 31, 2016
    ….
    Yet in her Facebook post on March 21, which was later edited and eventually deleted, Ms. Bell played detective in a way that some felt relied on damaging stereotypes.

    “You needn’t be a criminal profiler to draw a mental sketch of the killers who broke so many hearts two weeks ago Wednesday,” she wrote. The post continued: “They are young black men, likely in their teens or in their early 20s. They have multiple siblings from multiple fathers and their mothers work multiple jobs. These boys have been in the system before. They’ve grown up there. They know the police. They’ve been arrested.”

    So she said something on Facebook that was entirely true. We know it is true. Not even Rusty would deny a word of it was true. Probably not BiG. She got fired anyway.

    They have won. Anyone to the left of Corbyn is viewed by the young as the same as a Nazi. The battle has been lost. All that is left is killing the wounded.

  14. The Inimitable Steve

    SMFS – Have you ever been described as “Your Plastic Pal Who’s Fun To Be With!” ?

  15. Police may shoot the occasional Black bystander, but they are trying to prevent young Black men shooting each other.

    Thanks for the laugh.

    Police (at least in the US) shoot people because FYTW (fuck you, that’s why). They also shoot dogs at a pace no mailman would, and beat up little children. And race doesn’t play that much of an issue. Did I post the link here for the woman who had to stand between a murderous cop and her dog to prevent the cop from shooting it basically on site? Her husband had cell phone video proving she was in the right and the cop was lying; the cops tried to confiscate and destroy the video; failed to do so; and yet the lady still had to go through a trial. Fucking cop wasn’t brought up on perjury charges.

    No one cares about her because she’s white. The BLM people obviously don’t care, while the folks who fellate the cops and think their OBEY OR DIE attitude is virtuous think women like this deserve what they get.

    https://photographyisnotacrime.com/2016/03/07/west-virginia-woman-acquitted-for-stepping-between-dog-and-cop-who-wanted-to-kill-it/

    Note that the cop’s comments imply that police are trained to kill dogs.

  16. So Much For Subtlety

    The Inimitable Steve – “Have you ever been described as “Your Plastic Pal Who’s Fun To Be With!” ?”

    Only by my friends. Both of them. After all, I do have a brain the size of a planet.

    Which tells me that the first thing we owe other people is honesty. We can’t solve our problems unless we are willing to face them.

    Now I have to get back to parking some cars.

    Ted S. – “Thanks for the laugh.”

    You have no idea. Just no idea at all. Get out into the real world and see what most police forces are like. Then come back and complain about yours.

    Sure policemen are trained to shoot dogs. That has nothing to do with what I said. If I had to deal with ghetto thugs and their dogs I would shoot them too.

  17. SMFS: The dog-killing is a scum antic. It got its start in bluebottle liars whining that drug dealers “might” sick their attack dogs on them. I know of no such incident happening. From that of course it mushroomed into a standard cop terror tactic. Shooting poodles, labradors strolling up with their tails wagging. Leaving handcuffed kids –in a bungled (one of many) SWAT raid on the wrong house –sitting next to their shot-dead pet dog for an hour. If I was running things the cop who did that would have both his hands taken off by a chain saw. It is a scum tactic that blatantly says “We’re the Man. We can do whatever we fucking like and you can’t do shit about it Mundane”.

    Your cop support is entirely misplaced SMFS. They are costumed thugs who serve the state–which nowadays equals the scum of the left.

  18. Bloke in North Dorset

    I haven’t got time to find it but I have in mend a statistic that more black are killed by black cops than white cops, it wasn’t even close.

  19. The Inimitable Steve

    Which tells me that the first thing we owe other people is honesty. We can’t solve our problems unless we are willing to face them.

    Sure.

    Can’t solve our problems with “wur doomed!!! :-(” either.

    Hope ain’t a plan, but neither is despair.

  20. “I haven’t got time to find it but I have in mend a statistic that more black are killed by black cops than white cops, it wasn’t even close.”

    Remember what Jesse Jackson said – “There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved”

  21. Just in from the MIT Astrophysics Lab:

    Black Matter Lives!

    Yeah, off topic. But the BLM movement is so stupid that only journalists and lefty radicals* give them any credibility. It’s the latest iteration of the Occupy Wall Street Idiotsia (opposite of intelligentsia).

    So, when I hear Black Lives Matter, I substitute the more esoteric Black Matter Lives.

    * Yes, I know it’s redundant.

  22. SMFS: I live in a municipality that doesn’t have a police force. (We’ve got a little under 900 people. The sheriff’s department has a substation, but I never see them out and about.)

    Ecks is right about the wrong-door raids. And in response to

    It is a scum tactic that blatantly says “We’re the Man. We can do whatever we fucking like and you can’t do shit about it Mundane”.

    The cop-fellatio and reflexive defense of them against people who don’t respond quickly enough to cops’ orders has, I think, led cops not just to an attitude of impunity, but the idea that people should be forced to submit even to illegal orders. (There’s also the problem of multiple cops issuing contradictory orders: “Drop the weapon” vs. “Don’t make a move”, for example.)

    Consider the case of US gridiron star LeSean McCoy, formerly of Philadelphia. He and his entourage were at a high-end club there and involved in a fracas with some off-duty police officers. The government naturally reacted with outrage that a rich black man could do something so awful to those poor widdle cops, but the real story turned out to be quite a bit more complicated:

    According to witnesses, the brawl was allegedly started by Officer Roland Butler, who supposedly swiped a $350 bottle of pink champagne off McCoy’s table. Then, when McCoy’s friends protested, Officer Butler, at 6-foot-4 and at least 250-pounds, allegedly grabbed one of Shady’s pals — Tamarcus Porter, a 6-foot-1, 195-pound former Pitt running back — by the neck and body-slammed him to the ground.

    During the brawl, a witness saw one of the off-duty cops, Sgt. Daniel Ayres, reach for a black 9 mm pistol in a holster on his right hip. “Shady, he’s a cop,” the witness told McCoy.

    I think we’d all agree that taking somebody else’s bottle of booze would be an illegal order. But the cops apparently feel they’re entitled to it. And to go into places off-duty with their service weapons.

    Read the rest of that link.

  23. SMFS,

    Wendy Bell wasn’t fired because of the comments. The farcebook comment is only the cover story. The reason Ms Bell was fired is that she was making to much per an inside WTAE source. If it weren’t for the money issue she would have gotten a public reprimand.

    In this case PC was used as a cover. I’m not claiming that is always the case but in this instance you have found a poor reference.

  24. Mr Ecks
    April 9, 2016 at 8:02 pm

    Not one incident Gamecock.

    ————————————-

    Are you unable to read? He gave one incident. ONE.

  25. Rob,

    While you or I would never use bottle service what is wrong if someone else wants to?

    For the bar the profit margin is insane so they win. If the customer thinks they are getting something worth the money what is the problem in this case?

  26. So Much For Subtlety

    Mr Ecks – “The dog-killing is a scum antic. It got its start in bluebottle liars whining that drug dealers “might” sick their attack dogs on them. I know of no such incident happening. From that of course it mushroomed into a standard cop terror tactic.”

    We do not pay policemen enough to get savaged by pit bulls. And yes it does occur. We also have people like Rusty and BiG that prevent police adopting sensible policies. They need to be colour-blind. Which means you can’t tell them they can shoot ghetto thug put bulls. You have to tell them they have to shoot all dogs. Disparate impact.

    Yes this is a problem, but what is the solution? I don’t think calling policemen names is going to help. That is what they do in Black neighbourhoods. Isn’t that working out well. We actually have pretty good police forces. Not as good as they were but vastly better than anything else in the rest of the world except perhaps Japan. They could be better but insulting them is not going to get them there. Nor is letting thugs set pit bulls on them.

  27. So Much For Subtlety

    The Inimitable Steve – “Hope ain’t a plan, but neither is despair.”

    You come up with a plan, I will support it. At the moment the only plan we have is to let Muslims rape as many of our girls as they like until they get bored. This is not working.

    Saying that we are doomed at least makes it clear to people we need to try something else.

  28. So Much For Subtlety

    Johnnydub – “Remember what Jesse Jackson said – “There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved””

    Detroit elected Coleman Young when he campaigned on a platform of disbanding the “racist” street crime unit. The number of unjustified shootings and outright torture of suspects has gone up and up and up. Black police officers are more brutal and more inclined to shoot than White ones. There was a recent study that showed enforcing racial diversity on police forces resulted in more crime and more shooting. This is not a surprise when many of the biggest corruption cases have involved minority hires – like LA’s Ramparts scandal.

    Anyway Jackson is in good company. Rich Blacks don’t like living next to poor Blacks. In fact Blacks of all sorts don’t like living next to other Blacks. That is why they keep trying to move to White neighbourhoods. Nor do they find other Blacks all that appealling in other way – Rich Black men invariably marry women who are significantly paler than they are.

    But we are not allowed to notice such things.

  29. So Much For Subtlety

    By the way, the English are indeed a special breed. Here people are more upset by the shooting of dogs than the shooting of innocent suspects!

  30. Mr. Ecks:

    There’s also the Photography is Not a Crime blog which I linked to in my first comment here. Or Radley Balko’s blog at the Washington Post. Or reason.com, although a lot of people find the commentariat there a bit too saucy. (We’re the ones who got a US Attorney to go after us for mentioning woodchippers.)

    When the “one bad apple” does something, why is it that none of the alleged good apples ever stand up against the bad apples?

    If I really wanted to do the research and had the time, I could probably mention a different story every day for a year.

  31. Perverse as ever SMFS.

    Cops do have pit bulls sicked on them? How many, when and where?

    It is a non-problem.

    If the cops have been given permission to kill peoples dogs–or any other animal as a general rule–then not only the dog-killers but those who gave the “authorisation” need their hands taking off with a chainsaw. And frankly, if you support and approve of such a tactic–a piece of brazen arrogance, wickedness and tyranny–so do you. It would certainly put a stop to your commenting career.

    ” We actually have pretty good police forces.”

    Crap,

    ” Not as good as they were but vastly better than anything else in the rest of the world”

    The lesser of two evils etc. And we should be grateful that they aren’t as scummy as the rest of a scummy world?

    ” except perhaps Japan.”

    Japanese cops are out and out thugs and their criminal justice system regards innocence as a personal insult.
    All well if you are one of the great and good who don’t ever imagine they could be accused of anything. But woe betide anyone who is falsely accused or fitted up.

    ” They could be better but insulting them is not going to get them there.”

    Nor is anything else likely to. You kiss their arse if you like. It won’t make any difference. Should they decide your mug fits the frame then what a good little boy and cop sucker you may have been won’t stop them boosting their careers with a result taken out of your hide.

    ” Nor is letting thugs set pit bulls on them.”

    Nobody much is. And in fairness dog killing has not reached the UK yet. It would be better for all concerned if it does not.

  32. Gamecock: “Are you unable to read? He gave one incident. ONE.”

    And I gave you a source to dozens of others. And if you look around the net you will find hundreds of cop outrages.

    What is your point?

  33. So Much For Subtlety

    Liberal Yank – “Wendy Bell wasn’t fired because of the comments. The farcebook comment is only the cover story. The reason Ms Bell was fired is that she was making to much per an inside WTAE source. If it weren’t for the money issue she would have gotten a public reprimand.”

    I am impressed by the ability of the Left to rationalise.

  34. So Much For Subtlety

    Ted S. – “When the “one bad apple” does something, why is it that none of the alleged good apples ever stand up against the bad apples?”

    The police regularly fire bad officers all the time. The Unions may hate it but there are procedures and they are used.

    Mr Ecks – “If the cops have been given permission to kill peoples dogs–or any other animal as a general rule–then not only the dog-killers but those who gave the “authorisation” need their hands taking off with a chainsaw. And frankly, if you support and approve of such a tactic–a piece of brazen arrogance, wickedness and tyranny–so do you. It would certainly put a stop to your commenting career.”

    Really? If I happened to have a legal gun in my hand and someone’s pit bull was threatening me, you seriously think I would not have a perfectly acceptable legal right to shoot it dead? All I need is a reasonably well founded fear for my own personal safety. Why should police officers have lesser or fewer rights than you or me?

    Why do you think that someone’s dog trumps someone else’s right to life and limb?

    “The lesser of two evils etc. And we should be grateful that they aren’t as scummy as the rest of a scummy world?”

    Yes we should. For two reasons – one is that they are. The other is there is no better alternative. We can have police forces or not. If we do, then they will attract the occasional bad character and they will not please everyone. If we don’t, we are all screwed.

    “Japanese cops are out and out thugs and their criminal justice system regards innocence as a personal insult.”

    The second part is true but the first is absurd. Japanese police men are exceptionally polite and helpful in my experience.

    “Nor is anything else likely to.”

    Yes it is. We need to let the police know that we appreciate their job, that we know it is difficult, that we do not want to make it any more difficult than it is – but that we expect a certain level of professionalism and competence in return. I doubt a single policeman would disagree. What we don’t want to do is what we increasingly have – police feeling persecuted and under siege and hence defensive.

    Ted S. – “There’s been a long-term trend of a decline in the number of cops dying on the job, and yet the rhetoric of the so-called “War on Cops” has been ramping up.”

    There has been a long-term trend in all murders declining. That is beside the point.

    “Far more people are killed by police than kill police.”

    So what? This is a bad thing? Being a police officer is a dirty and dangerous job. It involves physical violence and the occasional gun shot. The question is whether far more innocent people are killed.

    Ted S. – “Non-cop murder victims don’t get the benefit of such manhunts. It’s as if the cops care about their own more than they care about us.”

    Indeed. And that is outrageous.

  35. SMFS,

    I can lead you to water but I con’t make you drink. Unlike the Somali refugees in Lewiston this is right in my back yard. You are thousands of miles away and most likely don’t know anyone that works for WTAE like I do. Why the hell are you sticking to an inaccurate version of events? In this case I can say for sure you are full of shit.

  36. ” If I happened to have a legal gun in my hand and someone’s pit bull was threatening me, you seriously think I would not have a perfectly acceptable legal right to shoot it dead? All I need is a reasonably well founded fear for my own personal safety. Why should police officers have lesser or fewer rights than you or me?”

    How many times does it have to be said? THERE IS NO EPIDEMIC OF DOGS BEING SET ON COPPERS. Dog-killing is a thug tactic used by costumed thugs.

    “The other is there is no better alternative. We can have police forces or not. If we do, then they will attract the occasional bad character and they will not please everyone.

    “If we don’t, we are all screwed.”

    They attract far more than the occasional bad apple and there are increasingly being allowed to do as they like by the scummy state. The idea that Mad Max world is the only alternative to costumed thugs stamping about is an extremely stupid one.

    Moreover one that contains the essential unquestioned assumption: That the noble and virtuous SMFS will never find himself in the frame. Because he is not that kind of person–things like that don’t happen to his sort of people.

    “The second part is true but the first is absurd. Japanese police men are exceptionally polite and helpful in my experience.”

    Oh yes –Jap cops are incredibly polite, helpful etc –if you are asking for directions or have fallen over and twisted your ankle.

    But if there is a crime to be accounted for and they decide –for whatever reason –that you are in the frame–then you will very quickly see the other side of their polite smiles. And having decided its you , forget about evidence, appeals etc. Admitting they got it wrong will cause them to lose face. And they will beat your mug off your head rather than have that.

    ” We need to let the police know that we appreciate their job, that we know it is difficult, that we do not want to make it any more difficult than it is – but that we expect a certain level of professionalism and competence in return. I doubt a single policeman would disagree. What we don’t want to do is what we increasingly have – police feeling persecuted and under siege and hence defensive.”

    Oh boo hoo. They are a gang of thuggish bunglers intent on carrying out the leftist states agenda regardless of who suffers. Including looking the other way while thousands of rapes are carried out and suppressing free speech (as ordered by their masters) rather than go after the culprits.

    But we need to be nice to them?

    You are a cop sucker.

    “ed S. – “There’s been a long-term trend of a decline in the number of cops dying on the job, and yet the rhetoric of the so-called “War on Cops” has been ramping up.”

    There has been a long-term trend in all murders declining. That is beside the point.”

    More nonsense. If the number of cops hurt and killed is declining -it is–why are said cops squealing about a non-existant “War on Cops”?

    To justify their own ever-increasing thuggery –that’s why.

    “he question is whether far more innocent people are killed.”

    They are indeed being killed and treated with increased brutality. But SMFS doesn’t give a shite so long as the coppers don’t tread on his toes in the course of their increasingly dirty work.

  37. SMFS:

    Essentially, you’ve said that the only plan we can come up with is to allow them to rape our girls.

    That’s not quite fair. Remember–there are boys, too.

  38. They attract far more than the occasional bad apple and there are increasingly being allowed to do as they like by the scummy state.

    This is part of why I mentioned the LeSean McCoy case above: cops seem increasingly to feel entitled to issue whatever orders they want and to have people OBEY OR DIE!!!

    Just now I did a google search on the five words cop oral sex avoid ticket. As you can see, the results yield any number of women accused of offering to perform oral sex if the cop will let them off a ticket — and any number of cops being accused of asking women to perform oral sex on them in exchange for being let off a ticket.

    That reminded me of Daniel Holtzclaw.

  39. So Much For Subtlety

    Mr Ecks – “How many times does it have to be said? THERE IS NO EPIDEMIC OF DOGS BEING SET ON COPPERS. Dog-killing is a thug tactic used by costumed thugs.”

    Probably because they are shooting them. No one needs to be bitten before shooting a dog. They need to have a well founded fear of being bitten. It is a thug tactic but it is one caused by insisting that the police cannot do common sense things like assume a Black ghetto thug’s dog is more dangerous than a White suburban mother’s. We need to end political correctness because we sure as hell won’t end shooting dogs. Policemen always will. No matter what the political system is. We don’t pay them enough to get mauled by pit bulls.

    “They attract far more than the occasional bad apple and there are increasingly being allowed to do as they like by the scummy state. The idea that Mad Max world is the only alternative to costumed thugs stamping about is an extremely stupid one.”

    Well what is the alternative? I would support a return to National Service where people with a moral objection to serving in the Army would do three years in a blue uniform. Not sure that would improve things. I would support more local oversight – how about a local, small, elected body?

    “Moreover one that contains the essential unquestioned assumption: That the noble and virtuous SMFS will never find himself in the frame. Because he is not that kind of person–things like that don’t happen to his sort of people.”

    Actually the police have given up framing members of the underclass and do fit up members of the middle class these days. So I would be in the frame. So what?

    “But if there is a crime to be accounted for and they decide –for whatever reason –that you are in the frame–then you will very quickly see the other side of their polite smiles.”

    Sure, they have an incredible conviction rate. But as police forces go, they are very polite and well behaved. It goes to show that what makes for a good police force is complex. I would be happy to have a Japanese-style police force – forced confession and all – because they seem to know the right people to get confessions out of. Unlike the British police.

    “Oh boo hoo. They are a gang of thuggish bunglers intent on carrying out the leftist states agenda regardless of who suffers. Including looking the other way while thousands of rapes are carried out and suppressing free speech (as ordered by their masters) rather than go after the culprits.”

    Indeed. And how does your teenage Trot approach improve things? How does reducing the trust between the population and the police make them less likely to listen to the state, hate the rest of us and so on?

    “More nonsense. If the number of cops hurt and killed is declining -it is–why are said cops squealing about a non-existant “War on Cops”?”

    Well partly because Obama has decided to restart the war on cops. And partly because the war is being fought in other ways with other means.

  40. So Much For Subtlety

    Liberal Yank – “Why the hell are you sticking to an inaccurate version of events?”

    Why would I believe a Leftist defending Political Correctness?

    A Leftist who has no personal knowledge of the matter, no direct first hand inside knowledge at all, just some hearsay. In direct defiance of all the available evidence that does exist? Why would I believe a rumour from you over the open and publicly stated views of everyone else involved?

    It is a mystery really innit?

  41. SMFS,

    You are the one defending PC. I am telling you that the story in the news is using PC as a cover for the real reason Ms Bell was fired. You could blame the firing on the Joos and it would just as correct as the cover story you are buying.

  42. Come to think of it there is probably a Joo accountant so you’d actually be closer to the truth.

    We’ll strike that and just blame Hitler.

  43. So Much For Subtlety

    Liberal Yank – “You are the one defending PC.”

    You know, as trolls go, I give this a 3 out of 10. You need to try harder. That early resort to Godwin’s Law just smacks of desperation.

    But thanks for playing.

  44. SMFS: There is little point in attempting to debate anything as you simply keep repeating the same crap over and over.

    I tell you that as a matter of absolute fact –that there are very, very few cases of dogs being set on coppers— and you keep regurgitating that if a pit bull or some other attack dog was sicked on some copper he would be justified in shooting.

    YES HE WOULD.

    I’ll say it one more time. That is not happening. What is happening is that large numbers of bluebottles are kicking in doors (often the wrong doors ) and executing family pets (including poodles, terriers and other small mutts) as a matter of SOP. Indeed this has spread far beyond the SWAT clowns and is becoming standard practice in all kinds of cop antics–many of them illegal themselves. There was a case of some bluebottle entering a families back yard with no probable cause –no crime, no nothing–and shooting an average sized family dog when it came up peacefully to see who he was. “Hello Boy” is being replaced by BANG and lots of shite about “officer safety”. The main justification for a huge raft of violence and murder that these clowns dish out.Large amounts of taxpayers cash are being paid out for compo in these matters. But Mr Scummy Blue isn’t affected by that.

    ” we sure as hell won’t end shooting dogs. Policemen always will. No matter what the political system is”

    Then the blue perps need to lose their jobs and pensions,They need to be beaten and have their hands cut off . As well as having everything taken from them financially to pay the compo due as a result of their arrogant and tyrannical activities.

    “Actually the police have given up framing members of the underclass and do fit up members of the middle class these days. So I would be in the frame. So what?”

    Lets hope they do fit you up. That might teach you some home truths where mere argument seems powerless.

    “Sure, they (Japanese coppers)have an incredible conviction rate.”

    Because they decide you did it and that is fucking it Sunshine. Short of a miracle or connection with the Imperial family you are history. With such a system any silly son of a bitch could shine convictions-wise. And to praise such a thing is a mark not merely of plain daftness but reptilian callousness. “Who gives a shit about guilt/innocence” sez you “so long as somebody is punished”.

    ” But as police forces go, they are very polite and well behaved. It goes to show that what makes for a good police force is complex. I would be happy to have a Japanese-style police force – forced confession and all – because they seem to know the right people to get confessions out of. Unlike the British police.”

    So you don’t give a shit about the cops torturing people–so long as the right people get tortured. As if a bunch of clowns should be allowed such power to exercise their evil.

    Indeed –despite your nonsense several paras above–you still clearly don’t really believe that a special snowflake like SMFS would ever be spitting his teeth in some cop cell while they arrange the rest of life to be conducted in a little match-box cheek-by-jowl with the scum of the Earth. Not SMFS, not him. Other people–little nobodies who might indeed be innocent ( but who cares compared with having a “good” police force that catches those bad guys–or a proxy for them at least).

    “How does reducing the trust between the population and the police make them less likely to listen to the state, hate the rest of us and so on?”

    Aside from the naïve–of which there are far too many–there is no trust. Get this: It isn’t up to us to jump thro’ hoops to be nice to abusive thugs in monkey-suits. The consent of the state has been given to their misbehaviour and their increasing display of their true nature as nasty goons. Big economic trouble is coming and the state hopes too hang on by trying to kow the population.

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