Jessica honeybuns

When the Guardian examined the 1.4 million comments that have been blocked by moderators since 1999, they found that eight of the 10 writers receiving the most blocked comments were women, and topping the list was … well, me. Sure, there’s a small part of me that’s proud – I’m No 1! – but the bigger truth is that I’m mostly just exhausted.

I’m tired of laughing it off and rolling my eyes. Because while misspelled threats or entreaties for me to get back in the kitchen are certainly easy to mock, the disdain with which they’re employed is not very funny.

For all the progress women have made, there’s always an online comment section or forum somewhere to remind us that, when given anonymity and a keyboard, some men will use the opportunity to harass and threaten.

It’s because you’re an idiot not because you’re female.

Anything that suggests there’s still work to do for true gender equality sends some men into a rage – a response that mostly serves to prove my point.

People disagree with you so you must be right. Yes, an idiot.

I can see that in other comment threads – on articles that aren’t about gender, race or sexuality – people have interesting and forward-thinking conversations. I’m disappointed that I’m rarely privy to the same.

Given that it’s your articles that get this, have you, possibly, maybe, considered that it might actually be about you, your ideas, and your writing?

It’s not that I find the transparently sexist responses surprising – writing about feminism online for more than a decade makes you a bit jaded about such things – but it impacts, tremendously, on the way I feel about my job. Imagine showing up to work just to run the gauntlet of hundreds of people telling you how worthless you are.

Perhaps another job would be a good idea?

22 thoughts on “Jessica honeybuns”

  1. It’s because she is a vile leftist bitch who spews marxoid evil in order to help a creed that has murdered millions so far and is daily doing its best to destroy us all.

  2. So Much For Subtlety

    Mr Ecks – “It’s because she is a vile leftist bitch who spews marxoid evil in order to help a creed that has murdered millions so far and is daily doing its best to destroy us all.”

    You can see what is really going on by realising that this perfectly moderate, sensible, middle of the road comment would be blocked by the Guardian for two reasons:

    1. They White-Knight by protecting their poor little dear female writers from abuse they would allow for men, and
    2. By deploying the word “b!tch”, Ecks has triggered the sexism panic button which means they can ignore what he has to say.

    But if he said “It’s because she is a vile worthless human being who spews marxoid evil in order to help a creed that has murdered millions so far and is daily doing its best to destroy us all.” he would be spot on and it would be hard for anyone to disagree with him.

  3. I liked this restrained comment made on one of her Guardian articles, so saved it for future reference:

    When the Guardian does things well, it does them very well.
    But for every article like this, there are several dozen columns by Jessica Valenti

  4. The problem for Jessica is that 50% of her columns are witless trivia, married with a profound lack of critical thought and the other 50% are just dumb and shouldn’t have been started at all, much less completed and put into print.

    Jessica misses the point that there are plenty of very good journos who are women, and their work isn’t met with the kind of opprobrium hers are. Perhaps because the ideas contained within are fully worked out, logical and sensible. She’s confusing ‘women’ with ‘women whose views she shares and approves of’. I’ve not seen the kind of comments she complains about levelled at Isobel Harrison, for instance. Although Germaine Greer gets a pasting in the Graun.

  5. what the Graun is kind of skirting around is that the highest level of foul commenting is on its articles about Israel

  6. Where I’m from you have to be talking football to get real vitriol. It’s not like men are nice to other men.

  7. Valenti always conflates the million people who point out, politely or otherwise, that she is an utter moron, with the tiny number of nutters who email rape threats.

  8. This all seems to link to ‘Lewis’ law’, which asserts that “the comments on any article about feminism justify feminism”.

    That this is nonsense that falls apart under any scrutiny doesn’t seem to stop people quoting it.

    For example, if a woman wrote an article stating that, say, all PIV sex is rape, no number of comments calling her a silly bitch would justify the original article’s point.

    At best you could say that particularly vicious comments might justify the continued need for feminism as an idea. But that would only illustrate the typical identitarian habit of eliding a worthy concept with the cretin who claims to support it.

  9. Maybe, just maybe, the Groaniad hires more idiot columnists who are female than idiot columnists who are male?

  10. Obviously the Groan excels in troll-bait.. or maybe that should be that it excels in trolling, and, therefore, abuse-bait.. but I can’t argue with the notion that the abuse dished out to women, idiots or not, is very different to that dished out to men.

    So if these comments are being blocked because they’re pointing out, robustly, that she’s an idiot then Timmy’s point stands. But if they’re being being bloks because they’re rape-‘threats’ and general gender-based abuse then that’s another thing.

    When Owen Jones writes something stupid, people tell him he’s an idiot. They don’t tell him they’re going to come around to his house and knife him in the cock.

  11. The Inimitable Steve

    “Maybe, just maybe, the Groaniad hires more idiot columnists who are female than idiot columnists who are male?”

    They do.

    See also: any kind of minority Guardianista.

    So whereas your George Monbiots write witless nonsense about the environment, the EU, and eating dead badgers he ran over in his car, a very high percentage of female and minority columns write witless nonsense about being female and/or minorities.

    “Me! Me! Meeeeeee!!!” was annoying when Beaker from The Muppets did it. It’s infuriating in a national newspaper.

  12. @TTGang
    “When Owen Jones writes something stupid, people tell him he’s an idiot. They don’t tell him they’re going to come around to his house and knife him in the cock.”

    Would it stop him from being an idiot, though?

    Seriously- is the issue for the Guardian that they have a problem with the magnitude (for want of a better word) of the criticism being levelled or the criticism itself?

    If it’s the former, do they display the same lack of tolerance for abuse levelled at white male straight writers as they do the Valetti’s and the Thrasher’s?

    I’m unconvinced that they don’t display several pretty major blind spots in their moderation, as they’re inconsistent and hypocritical in their editorial stance

  13. I expect if the Guardian printed all of the deleted comments on articles by women, you would find the vast majority contained zero abusive or ‘hateful’ content, just disagreement.

    But of course they won’t, because it would expose their moderation policy as total bollocks.

  14. Most of you are properly misogynistic, though, so your thoughts about this subject are void.

    I sincerely hope your cocks fall off and then you bleed to death.

    With people pointing and laughing, because they would.

  15. The Return of Arnald–Socialist Saint and SO much our moral superior.

    On hols again Arnald –or is it half-term?. Wouldn’t that be a wheeze if the fuckwit was like 15 and 3/4 or something.

    “I sincerely hope your cocks fall off and then you bleed to death.”

    Is that how you sign all your letters?

    “With people pointing and laughing, because they would.”

    Yes but when it happened to you Arnie–you were surrounded by socialists and those who ignore and indeed approve of millions of murders aren’t likely to be compassionate about your case of knob-rot. If you write to the people who make Savlon perhaps they will send you a free tube.

    Not if you sign the letter in your usual manner tho’.

  16. @ John square
    Of course! We are required to make special adjustments to compensate them for how rude their grandfathers were to our grandmothers.
    On a slight tangent – on another side I criticised another poster for not checking his facts; he seemed upset by this and suggested that I should have criticised the writer of the article, so I pointed out that he was a scientist and she was not so I expected *him* to check facts – he accepted this. It’s not just gender – I hold scientists to higher standards than those reading media studies and other trash.

  17. Most of you are properly misogynistic

    Hardly. Just that most on here seem quite comfortable calling a cunt a cunt.

  18. If the Guardian suspects that female writers get more comments blocked simply because they are female then they could quite easily test this hypothesis by randomly assigning a name/gender to each piece for a set period.

    If pieces with female attribution stil get more blocked comments even though they were written by males and vice/versa then they could claim that their hypothesis has some basis in fact.

    The danger (for the Graun) is that it might reveal that badly written articles on spurious subjects get savaged no matter the real or attributed gender of the author.

  19. “Hardly. Just that most on here seem quite comfortable calling a cunt a cunt.”

    Regardless of those fucking horses, yeah?

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