An interesting Jenner question

Caitlyn Jenner is to appear on the cover of Sports Illustrated, the leading American sports magazine, dressed only in an American flag and sporting her Olympic gold medal in a rare acknowledgement of her previous life as a champion male athlete.

If she’s female, shouldn’t she be stripped of the medal for having competed in the wrong event?

21 thoughts on “An interesting Jenner question”

  1. In the paper here in Bilbao today:
    New comic to explain this phenomenon to young school kids. Young Ana sees her friend in the showers and discovers she has a penis. ‘Oh for a moment I thought you were a boy, but I realise I was wrong!’

    Not sure of the age group these people are aiming at but clearly junior school.

    Just exactly WTF is all this about?

    Looks like a few are trying to make this mainstream. In 10 years time half the kids at school will be ‘choosing’ to be what they are not!

    I really can’t get my head around this. Or are there thousands of people who really, really aren’t what they are?

    Cool!

  2. @ bilbaoboy “Or are there thousands of people who really, really aren’t what they are?”

    Yes. I might look like a large, hairy middle-aged white man but in fact I identify as Beyonce. You must accept this and my innate (if hard to pin down) bootyliciousness.

    We in the transBeyonce community expect to be called Ms Knowles and to have the inner truth of our fabulousness recognised. Denial is racist, sexist and transphobic.

    We are definitely not deranged narcissists or mentally-ill.

  3. no matter how you feel on the subject *today*, when she competed she was a man (baby!)

  4. If I told a doctor I felt like a penguin trapped in a human body and could they cut my arms off and sew on flippers they would hopefully medicate and lock me away. They certainly wouldn’t do it.

  5. The Meissen Bison

    AndrewC: they would hopefully medicate and lock me away.

    I shouldn’t count on it.

    Granted they would begin by throwing you fish from a bucket but if you persisted after a suitable cooling off (sorry) period, I’m sure you could be given the ‘Full Penguin’.

    I can’t give you chapter and verse but there have, I think, been cases of people taking against a healthy limb and having it amputated.

  6. So Much For Subtlety

    The Meissen Bison – “I can’t give you chapter and verse but there have, I think, been cases of people taking against a healthy limb and having it amputated.”

    There is a hospital in Edinburgh that has done it on the NHS.

    But then again there is this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking_Cat

    Now normally I would say that the medical profession profoundly betrayed this man. Instead of giving him the medical help he needed, they enabled his delusion. Obviously it did not help him in the long run.

  7. “Young Ana sees her friend in the showers and discovers she has a penis.”

    Clearly 100% of schoolboys would want to use this loophole, however I imagine nearly all would chicken out.

  8. Just the idea of it is enough to gag a maggot.

    However, I must congratulate Sports Illustrated on finding the single most effective way imaginable to alienate its paying subscriber base.

    But then again, what are profits for the shareholders compared to the opportunity for management to virtue signal?

    What is lost in all of this is that Jenner’s 15 minutes were up long ago… Just look at the rating of its TV show.

  9. @Jonathan – fucking hell, that BBC story!

    “She says she’s looking forward to the day her gender is no longer an issue. “I’m not going to end up being a boy forever, because I will be a girl and I know that. Sometimes it doesn’t feel like that though.”

    He is going to be a boy forever. By the sound of it a boy who will be mutilated into being a barren facsimile of a girl.

    Can someone explain to me why it is wrong for some crackpot psychologist to try to ‘cure’ a gay person who labours under the delusion that he’s not really gay, but it’s fine to cut the cock off a man labouring under the delusion that he’s not male.

  10. Bloke In Overalls

    “ No, because at the time Bruce was competing in the correct event. Subsequent transition does not alter what went before.”

    Longrider is correct, all fair and above board. There was no deceit. This was a man, known to be a man, competing in a men’s event.

    The same can be said for the very private Canadian Michelle Duff, who as Michael Duff was a great road racer (motorcycles) in the 60’s on the European circuit.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Duff

    If you are interested in motorcycle racing of that period, especially the background scene, her book “Make Haste, Slowly: The Mike Duff Story” is a great read, and not at all cringe worthy.
    At the end of the book the “change” is covered and the (convincing) reasons given, but it isn’t what the book is about.
    It is mainly about how hard and dangerous the road racing game was.

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