Environmentalist twats

With the emphasis on mentalist:

BOMBAY BEACH, CA — The lake is drying up, uncounted dead fish line the shore, and the desert town is losing people.
It could be the plot of a post-apocalyptic movie set in the future, but this is actually happening here and it has been going on for years. It wasn’t always like this, of course. There was a time when this town was booming. There was a time when the Salton Sea, California’s largest lake, was the “French Riviera” of the state, and the pride and joy of Imperial County. But that was decades ago, during the Sea’s heydays of the 1950s and 1960s. Back when this area had luxury resorts, piers, yachts, and thousands of visitors, including stars like Frank Sinatra — who owned a house in nearby Palm Springs and would come down to see Guy Lombardo sail his speedboat.


The Salton Sea is a shallow, saline, endorheic rift lake located directly on the San Andreas Fault, predominantly in California’s Imperial and Coachella valleys.

The lake occupies the lowest elevations of the Salton Sink in the Colorado Desert of Imperial and Riverside counties in Southern California. Its surface is 234.0 ft (71.3 m)[1] below sea level. The deepest point of the sea is 5 ft (1.5 m) higher than the lowest point of Death Valley. The sea is fed by the New, Whitewater, and Alamo rivers, as well as agricultural runoff, drainage systems, and creeks.

Over millions of years the Colorado River has flowed into the Imperial Valley and deposited soil (creating fertile farmland) and building up the terrain constantly changing the course of the river. For the next thousands of years the river has flowed into and out of the valley alternately creating a freshwater lake, an increasingly saline lake, and a dry desert basin, depending on river flows and the balance between inflow and evaporative loss. The cycle of filling has been about every 400–500 years and has repeated itself many times. The latest natural cycle occurred around 1600–1700 as remembered by Native Americans who talked with the first settlers. Fish traps still exist at many locations and it is evident that the Native Americans would move the traps depending upon the cycle.

The most recent inflow of water from the now heavily controlled Colorado River was accidentally created by the engineers of the California Development Company in 1905. In an effort to increase water flow into the area for farming, irrigation canals were dug from the Colorado River into the valley. Due to fears of silt buildup, a cut was made in the bank of the Colorado River to further increase the water flow. The resulting outflow overwhelmed the engineered canal, and the river flowed into the Salton Basin for two years, filling the historic dry lake bed and creating the modern sea, before repairs were completed.


17 thoughts on “Environmentalist twats”

  1. I live not too far from there.

    For some reason the environmentalists take whatever exists *now* as the ‘proper’ state of things and then freak out when some of those things change – and the Salton Sea is a prime example of that coupled with complete ignorance of history.

    They just assume that because its a big body of water it couldn’t possibly be man-made (despite plenty of evidence in other areas of artificial bodies of water on a comparable scale) and that it must be stable on geological timeframes rather than fluctuating over the course of a handful of centuries.

  2. Reminds me of the inability of SFO (San Francisco International Airport) moving their runways further apart (coupled with frequent heavy fog, a major reason why there are so many flight delays in SFO).

    The runways are build over reclaimed land and the initial construction magically created ‘wetland’ for the migratory birds. Now that this man-made ‘wetland’ is there, there is no way in hell environmentalist would allow its inevitable destruction in the runway improvement. Nevermind that it wasn’t there before SFO.

  3. We just have to wait until the Yellowstone caldera blows for the next time, hope that the wind is in the right direction to transport the ash towards these fuckwits and wait for them to appreciate what a real post apocalyptic movie set they’re in.

  4. Bloke in Costa Rica

    Have a look at the Salton Sea on Google Earth. It’s in the middle of a desert (and hence deserted).

  5. That site really is the nutty extremist fringe of using environmentalism as an excuse for genocide in Africa and Asia. They still promote Joe Romm, even after he was outed as a Holocaust denier.

  6. let me get this straight.

    Greenies up in arms over drying out of accidental lake.

    This ‘lake’ was a shithole in the middle on nowhere until somebody accidentally flooded it creating an economic and environmental boom.

    They fixed the ‘accident’ and first the economics went, followed by the people and then the the wildlife.

    Just flood it again and reap the benefits of local geoengineering.

  7. Bobrocket>

    “Greenies up in arms over drying out of accidental lake.”

    No, they’re not greenies. That’s an insult to actual greenies, who, for all their faults, generally mean well. Watermelons are green on the outside and red on the inside. What do you call people who are green on the outside and fucking evil on the inside?

  8. ‘What do you call people who are green on the outside and fucking evil on the inside?’

    Marshians obviously

    At least they have a sense of humour.

    How about all these people get off their high horses and negotiate an amicable agreement that solves the majority of the percieved problems for the longest period for the least cost (upfront,ongoing,TCO etc.)

    A desert in the Desert is a desert…

    A puddle in the desert is an environmental and economic magnet.

    You can pump cold deep pacific salt water over the mountains into the desert using solar/wind/tidal pumps.
    Evaporate the water in botanic glasshouses, controlling the climate in the houses and separating out the salt.
    Salts are marketed commercially and fresh water excess is fed into lake via irrigation (at a premium)

    All that worthless land, colo with Calif.
    All it needs is water, on a planet 70% covered in the stuff, and power that falls freely from the sun.

    When California slides into the sea it will be beachfront.

  9. The best argument against those that do not agree with you is to demonstrate your previous and ongoing achievements.

    Evidence that your way is best for everyone overall, in the past, current and all our futures.

    (perhaps the ‘evil’ ones only appear as ‘evil’ as some kind of test ?)

  10. ‘Me’

    ‘You can pump cold deep pacific salt water over the mountains into the desert using solar/wind/tidal pumps.’

    Transferrable technology, you can do this on any scale in any region of the planet that has heat/sunlight near a deep ocean.

    Life is pushing water uphill.

  11. BobRocket,

    Traditionally fossil fuels have been used for desalination due to the high costs of starting and stopping the operation. I would love to see these plants run with solar but do you have a suggestion for overnight power?

  12. Emil>

    The former is a subcategory of the latter – if you insist. It’s more accurate to say that Marxism/Communism was a mistake, and those who refuse to accept that today are where the evil lies.

  13. MikeinAppalachia

    Rather than pump water over the mountains, tunnel through and build a hydro generating plant with 240 feet of head and unlimited flow depending on the diameter of the tunnel. Use the generation to desalinate and pump the resulting potable water to users.

  14. Or, I don’t know – just spitballig here – just dig a canal from the Colorado back to the Salton Sea.

    No need for pumping and desalinating ocean water at a yoooooge cost – and no, selling salt won’t come close to covering it. Neither will selling desalinated water to the farmers – you can’t sell water at market prices in CA, its all set by a state-run, farmer controlled cartel.

    Oooooooor – again, just spitballing here – let the people who live there who are invested in having a freshwater sea in the Imperial Valley figure out what they’re going to do.

    Its not like they *need* the Sea – its there for the tourists. Canals are a thing out here and they supply the rest of the farmers in Southern Arizona and California just fine. And there all fed by the Colorado anyway.

    The rest of the people can pack up and move somewhere else if they don’t like what the area is turning into or put down their own money to ‘fix’ it.

    Keep in mind that this place has only been heavily settled for around half a century anyway.

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