In which Timmy gets very confused

This is a picture of West Point black cadets making the Black Power salute.

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And I look at that picture and think, when did the Confederate Army have a black cavalry unit?

 

Yes, yes, I know, I’m not an American, but Union was blue, Confederate grey, wasn’t it?

28 thoughts on “In which Timmy gets very confused”

  1. So Much For Subtlety

    When a country splits into civil warring sections, some will take some traditions and not others. Other parts will take some other traditions. Some will be adopted by all, some will be rejected by all. Given time they will evolve their own traditions – look at the Roundheads.

    But Robert E Lee was the head of West Point before getting a field command. So he may have kept those uniforms in mind.

  2. The Confederates did have black regiments (made up of free blacks I believe, because Civil Wars make no sense) – not sure if any were cavalry.

    And nineteenth-century uniform practices being what they were, I suspect the confederates wore grey, except when they didn’t. And the union wore blue, except when they didn’t…

  3. This is where ‘thinking’ like Ironman thinks gets you. The next stage, once the decline is complete, is annihilation.

    It was nice knowing you, western civilisation.

  4. I wonder how many of these fucknuggets will be drummed out of the Army?

    Cos if they they were white their feet wouldn’t touch the floor.

    Obama has done a magnificent job knocking the crap out of the US armed forces with the traditional mix of racial animus and identity obsessional shit. Its not as if the world is a dangerous place or anything….

  5. Watchman said:
    “The Confederates did have black regiments – not sure if any were cavalry.”

    James Washington, Sergeant in the 35th Texas Cavalry and the highest-ranking known black in the Confederate Army.

    While the Confederates paid their troops the same rate regardless of colour, the Union paid blacks less than whites for the same rank.

  6. The Confederate ‘uniform’ was butternut.

    Largely it consisted of anything they could get there hands on.

  7. “While the Confederates paid their troops the same rate regardless of colour, the Union paid blacks less than whites for the same rank.”

    Logical: because Lincoln had emancipated the slaves in the Confederacy it had to pay a colour-blind rate. Whereas he carefully didn’t free the slaves in the Union, so they didn’t need to.

  8. By the way, when I was in Nigeria I was amused to see the uniform of one security company was light grey with yellow stripes down the trouser leg.

  9. These people should be expelled. It’s racist of whites are pround of their heritage, but you’re just a racist if you think the same of blacks being proud of their (awful) heritage.

  10. I think the official name for the Confederate grey was ‘Cadet Grey’. It was adopted by the Confederate officers who attended West Point, so as to differentiate themselves from their Union classmates.

  11. Actually, they’ll all be teaching “diversity” to the troops.

    And don’t blame this on Obama… The senior officer corps of all US services are – and have been – craven cowards when it comes to instituting political correctness. This includes agreeing to factor “climate change” into its war planning.

    It’s no secret that junior officers are leaving all the serves in droves, with the stated reason being that they neither respect nor trust their superiors. Next time you see some three star general strutting his stuff on TV, just remember they he got where he is in no small part because he was will into pull down his pants and bend over whenever it was required.

  12. re: “And don’t blame this on Obama… ”

    Who the fuck else is stuffing the leadership ranks will craven PC fucks? They’re implementing his agenda.

  13. And as many people have observed – Empires fall from within.

    I cant believe just how much Obama is a rampant cunt. The question is who backed him and why?

  14. “I’m afraid they just come across as an American version of the Spice Girls”

    except fatter….

  15. So Much For Subtlety

    Johnnydub – “except fatter….”

    I can’t believe I am about to write this, but also dumber.

    Anyone still think letting women into the military was a good idea?

  16. “I cant believe just how much Obama is a rampant cunt. The question is who backed him and why?”

    Raytheon based on the trend towards lasers and railguns. I don’t understand the lobbying network well enough to explain the financial connections. At first glance funding appears to being going to pro-Obama groups but that is just my opinion.

  17. I should add Raytheon has some very valuable contracts to upgrade the US nuclear stockpile.

  18. But the PC bollocks will destroy the military effectiveness of the US armed forces.

    Who wants the US neutered in that way who also has the power behind the throne. (i.e. not Iran, North Korea etc)

  19. Jonnydub, “fucknuggets?”

    I dislike identity politics in the military or anything else but am I alone in taking exception to some of the disgusting language on this thread?

  20. So Much For Subtlety

    Johnnydub – “I mean who the fuck would want to serve or go into battle with those fucknuggets as CO’s?”

    They are female and they are Black. Both mean that they are less likely than most to see combat.

    Johnathan Pearce – “I dislike identity politics in the military or anything else but am I alone in taking exception to some of the disgusting language on this thread?”

    I am not always au faire with the latest in PC grievances. Are you objecting to the f-word, the insult to KFC or is there some hidden racial aspect that I have missed?

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