Seems logical

Previous EU law cases have established that prostitution constitutes self-employment.

So therefore you can’t do this:

A policy aimed at deporting “high-harm” EU-national criminals and those not entitled to remain in Britain is to be challenged by Romanian sex workers who maintain they are self-employed.

Although freedom of movement is guaranteed within the European Union, the right to stay – after the first three months – is dependent on new arrivals “exercising their treaty rights”, for example, by working or studying.

Operation Nexus, a combined police and immigration initiative involving sharing intelligence, has been targeting foreign offenders and those suspected of breaking the law since 2012.

Among those detained and served with deportation papers are an increasing number of women from eastern Europe who have been working on the streets and in premises across London and Manchester. Many do not have convictions.

29 thoughts on “Seems logical”

  1. I seem to recall there was a case a few years ago involving a lady from Brighton who argued that because sex work was illegal, she didn’t need to pay tax on her income. The courts said otherwise.

  2. Flatcap, the case you are looking for is Commissioners of the Inland Revenue v Akin, Madame Akin being better known by her professional name of Miss Whiplash.

    But I think she was in London rather than Brighton; she claimed to have lots of MPs as clients so she must have been somewhere handy for the House.

    (she did rent an apartment from Norman Lamont, but I don’t think that was ever claimed to be her business premises)

    After losing her court case she stood for Parliament herself, but unsuccessfully.

  3. Justin

    Yes. More probably for denial of fundamental EU rights.

    I have a feeling I am about to provoke the sort of Looking Glass doscussion we sometimes get on this blog where those who rail against immigration will defend the rights of whores to come into the UK to offer tricks. But what sort of mad-arse “union” is it that
    What sort of bonkers world do we live in though where this is a “right”?

  4. So we can deport women who bring pleasure–at a cost but that is true of all women –but imported murderers and child-rapists we cannot.

    The sooner Thrasha May is stuffed and exhibited in the British Museum as “The Most useless Home Secretary evah” the better.

    She has far exceeded even the shameful record of her fat , light-fingered, Cartman–lookalike predecessor.

  5. “Tinribs:”I have a feeling I am about to provoke the sort of Looking Glass doscussion we sometimes get on this blog where those who rail against immigration will defend the rights of whores to come into the UK to offer tricks. But what sort of mad-arse “union” is it that”

    These women come here to work–not have 50/75 % unemployment while being part of a state-funded “outbreed the natives” programme. They also do something to undercut the femmi-scum boosted cost of local women–not just for sex but for the prevention of ill-judged marriages ( which these days is increasingly most of them) and thus ruinous life-wrecking divorce etc. Ruinous for men that is.

    Also most of the women are likely to return to their homelands not settle in the UK . Once their financial goals are achieved. Or are you swallowing/peddling the official bullshit that they are all slaves or poor degraded drug addicts.?

    We need no truck with the EU to have plenty of prossies visit these shores. Good luck to the Girls. May they live long and prosper. And return to their homes rich and with their ears ringing with the praise of satisfied customers.

  6. It would depend on whether they’re actually ‘self employed’ Declaring for tax & paying NI. Or working in the black. (Which most of them are.) If the latter, then they are, in fact, criminals & liable for deportation.

    That said, you can blame the totally fucked-up system in the UK, makes it so difficult to work legally. And they want to make it worse?

  7. Thank you, I didn’t know there had been another one.

    I was wondering what to buy with the book token my mother in law gave me for Christmas.

  8. Well, since they are each and every one victims of the sex slave trade, they can claim asylum…

  9. Ecksy

    “They also do something to undercut the femmi-scum boosted cost of local women–not just for sex but for the prevention of ill-judged marriages ( which these days is increasingly most of them) and thus ruinous life-wrecking divorce etc. Ruinous for men that is.”

    You sound very bitter about women and marriage.

  10. In Colorado canabis production and sale is legal in the state but illegal federally, but the traders still have to pay federal income taxes.

  11. > “who have been working on the streets”

    I’m not au fait with current prostitution law, but isn’t offering your services on the streets illegal? (Even though the service itself is not.)

  12. Andrew M,

    Street Offences Act 1959.

    I’m surprised they could even find a street walker.

  13. So Much For Subtlety

    Theophrastus – “You sound very bitter about women and marriage.”

    Anyone who is not bitter about marriage and at least realistic about women is not paying attention.

    Two words: Heather Mills.

  14. Ecksy is about 10 years ahead of his time, yes he is bitter (and not just about women).

    We have been sold a pup by the believers.

    The question is, ‘can a believer be cured’ ?

    Ecksy ?

  15. BobRocket: Well thanks for the endorsement Bob.

    Believers in what tho?–marriage and traditional values,, religion. the scum of the state ?

    Theo–The days of “married 58 years ” etc while not vanished totally are getting less and less likely to be the outcome of getting wed. You can call it bitter–I call it realistic and something that young men should– and are– thinking about. Hence the femmi-squeals about wicked unmanly men who won’t step up and marry the psychological wreckage that seems to comprise a great many modern women.

  16. SMFS

    Men who are bitter about marriage are poor judges of (female) character and/or don’t know how to manage women. Mutatis mutandis, the same applies to women who are bitter about marriage.

    Marriage and family are the bedrock of a thriving society. Those who are bitter and cynical about these institutions are unintentionally doing the left’s work.

  17. So Much For Subtlety

    Theophrastus – “Men who are bitter about marriage are poor judges of (female) character and/or don’t know how to manage women. Mutatis mutandis, the same applies to women who are bitter about marriage.”

    Nothing that applies to men about sex applies to women. I might have endorsed this view once upon a time but I have seen too many good men screwed by the system to believe it. It is precisely the good men who get chewed up. The wife beaters don’t. The cheaters don’t.

    It has nothing to do with a woman’s character. She probably was a nice person when she was young and innocent. But we live in a society that pushes divorce and abortion as the two sure cures for every marriage ill. We are surrounded by voices telling women how great divorce is. It adds up in the end. The growth area for divorce is among the over-60s. You know, when men can earn no more and it is the best time to cash out. There is no way you can say someone was wrong about a woman for 40 years.

    “Marriage and family are the bedrock of a thriving society. Those who are bitter and cynical about these institutions are unintentionally doing the left’s work.”

    Indeed. But as the MRAs say, we are now living with Marriage 2.0. We still talk as if Marriage 1.0 is an option. It isn’t. It is sensible to be cynical about Marriage 2.0 even while respecting 1.0. They are the bedrock of a thriving society. A pity the feminists and the SoCons have got together to destroy marriage then isn’t it?

    This is not the world as it should be. But it is the world as it is.

  18. SMFS

    I can think of quite a few good women who have been chewed up by divorce, even though the divorce process generally favours women.

    Agreed, after 40 years of marriage, divorce is probably not to do with misjudging character; but it will have a lot to do with one partner not managing the other appropriately. And divorce at 60+ has less to do with the decline of male earning power, and more to do with empty nests, divergence of interests, spending more time together after retirement, and long-term marital dissatisfaction.

    I have been married for 36 years. I have occasionally wanted to murder my wife…But divorce? Never!

  19. So Much For Subtlety

    Theophrastus – “I can think of quite a few good women who have been chewed up by divorce, even though the divorce process generally favours women.”

    I can think of many women who ended up with the short stick from divorce. But by and large they were the ones that pulled the plug and generally not for good reasons. The media sells the myth of divorce but reality rarely agrees.

    “And divorce at 60+ has less to do with the decline of male earning power, and more to do with empty nests, divergence of interests, spending more time together after retirement, and long-term marital dissatisfaction.”

    Come on. You are buying into the rationalisation. By the time they are both 60, they know what each others’ interests are, the nest has been empty for a while (and of course that is what I mean – the wife does not need someone to change the nappies or pick the children up from soccer practice any more). It clearly is not long-term marital dissatisfaction or at least there is no reason why it should come to a head just when the husband stops earning.

    But a financial explanation works well.

    Marriage 1.0 is still dead. We have to live with the result. Unfortunately that means young men not marrying. Why should they?

  20. My solution to the marriage and divorce situation, from personal experience, would be to miss out the first marriage and move straight onto the second.

    Although I can’t say that in future my advice might not be to miss out the first and second marriage and move straight onto the third.

  21. Divorce at 60+ has a lot to do with the husband being home all the time.

    Sensible blokes find a hobby that either takes them out of the house, or keeps them quite in an out-of-the-way corner.

    Of course, 60+ divorces were rare in the past because of death.

  22. So Much For Subtlety

    BraveFart – “My solution to the marriage and divorce situation, from personal experience, would be to miss out the first marriage and move straight onto the second.”

    The problem with this is that it ignores the crippling costs that divorce hits working class and lower-middle class men. Men who are working their way out of real poverty and so are not eligible for welfare. But then they lose the house and a big chunk of their income and they have to start again.

    The best thing we could do to close the inequality gap would be to make divorce a lot harder.

    Surreptitious Evil – “Divorce at 60+ has a lot to do with the husband being home all the time.”

    Sure. His money is welcome. He isn’t.

    “Sensible blokes find a hobby that either takes them out of the house, or keeps them quite in an out-of-the-way corner.”

    That depends on how you define sensible. I think a sensible bloke would realise that working himself to an early grave for a woman who does not want to be around him is not a good idea.

    He ought to take off for Thailand and put his remaining money to good use on hookers and booze before finding a much earlier grave.

  23. SMFS

    The financial explanation does not work well when there are so many alternative explanations. And it is unduly cynical. Your cynicism about such fundamental institutions as marriage and family is corrosive of the very things you often proclaim you wish to fight to preserve. Such cynicism is a cancer – what Roger Scruton describes as the spirit of negation and satanic.

    Why should young men marry? Because marriage and family often bring long-term happiness and fulfillment – particularly if you work at it.

  24. The views on marriage and divorce of SMFS and X are revealing. They seem human relationships as economic and human discord as founded in conflict between opposing groups – in this case men against women.

    For most of the rest of us, marriage is about spending your life with the person you love. And divorce, if it happens, is to be conducted with a view to remaining on the best possible terms with your ex, and with as few as possible of your combined assets in the hands of the lawyers.

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