The debt we owe to Richard MurphyMay 26, 2016 Tim WorstallRagging on Ritchie24 CommentsWE ALL OWE A SIGNIFICANT DEBT TO RICHARD MURPHY previousWell, no, he didn’t really, did he?nextThe great Donald Trump tax evasion story 24 thoughts on “The debt we owe to Richard Murphy” Geoff Taylor May 26, 2016 at 8:01 am Marvellous. Theophrastus May 26, 2016 at 8:07 am Beautiful, quite exquisite. Jonathan Abbott May 26, 2016 at 8:17 am Enjoyed reading that, ta. AndrewC May 26, 2016 at 8:43 am Church bells can be heard ringing across the country. Out of curiosity, Tim, did Brenda Matthews over on the TRUK site point you in the direction of the HMRC publication you linked to? I know her well…. Bloke in Wales May 26, 2016 at 8:46 am Can anyone else hear the sound of spluttering coming from the direction of Ely? Tim Worstall May 26, 2016 at 8:49 am No….she reminded me of its existence, yes. But I first saw it on the sadly departed FCA blog. So, a quick Google to find it again this morning. Luis Enrique May 26, 2016 at 9:04 am Aside from enjoyment of hoisting Murphy, everybody already said avoidance is legal and you have said no more here. AndrewC May 26, 2016 at 9:12 am @Tim – Glad to have jogged your memory. I mean Brenda is. HMRC bought out that as a direct response to the sort of nonsense Murphy and his ilk were spouting at the time. It’s the world-weary tone of “that’s not tax avoidance, it’s just the way corporation tax works” that I most sympathise with. BraveFart May 26, 2016 at 9:16 am In the photo, you can see quite serious cracks have already appeared… Rob May 26, 2016 at 9:29 am New keyboard for Ely, please. Marc May 26, 2016 at 9:43 am Thank you Tim, and thanks to Richard if you’re reading here. The Meissen Bison May 26, 2016 at 10:00 am Good pic but why no blindfold? Lizardking May 26, 2016 at 10:17 am Sweet Jesus, Dunning-Kruger out in full force today. In response to Anth telling Murphy his Oxfam analysis is going to haunt him: “I can live with that Being right is a comfortable place to be And you can’t domestically avoid a government endorsed domestic tax arrangement” I mean, just WTF??? Van_Patten May 26, 2016 at 10:45 am Lizardking It’s one of the most moronic posts I have ever seen (and that is against some very stiff competition) – but no doubt all will be forgotten and he will return to find another hobby horse to ride next week….. Lizardking May 26, 2016 at 10:55 am VP – I love his end note (in an attempt, I’m sure, to convince himself rather than anyone else): “I really am on the right side here” Richard May 26, 2016 at 11:20 am Superb. Nice work Tim. Although I’m not sure I agree with you that none of it is tax avoidance. My view is it’s all tax avoidance, and that’s fine. Richard May 26, 2016 at 11:21 am Lizardking, I suspect he means “I am on the side of the right people here”, and that therefore anything he says to defend them must be wise and righteous. Noel Scoper May 26, 2016 at 11:23 am Ritchie complains that PWC are doing a conference in a building owned by Opus Dei. The man who sells his books in Amazon, but says they are bad. The man who uses Apple products, but says they are bad. The man who flies round the world to talk to a room of 10 people, but says flying is bad. However, this is most funny: http://www.anglia.ac.uk/news/corbyn-adviser-to-share-joy-of-tax “All talks will take place in the Lord Ashcroft Building on Anglia Ruskin’s Cambridge campus, are free to attend, and no booking is required.” I wish I’d know, I’d have flown in just to get a photo of him in front of that building. Flatcap Army May 26, 2016 at 11:27 am You have reminded me of the late lamented FCAblog – was it the Murphmeister who outed him and complained to his employers? Rob May 26, 2016 at 11:43 am Opus fucking Dei? Does he think anyone gives a shit? Who does he think he is today, Tom Hanks? Van_Patten May 26, 2016 at 12:01 pm Flatcap Army It was – Murphy has a penchant for stool pigeons – they are an essential part of his ‘Curajus State’ vision Rob Given his resemblance to various fringe crank conspiracy theorists I wouldn’t be surprised if he used the ‘Da Vinci code’ as source material – it would be more substantial than his claims over ‘The Tax Gap’ for example…. jgh May 26, 2016 at 12:03 pm Murphy has called me bizzare. I must add that to my CV. 🙂 So, what is it called when I avoid, oops musn’t call it that, err, not pay any tax on the first £10k of my income because the law has been concisously written by the government to state that I avoid, oops, do not pay any tax on the first £10k of my income. Jim May 26, 2016 at 2:05 pm “everybody already said avoidance is legal and you have said no more here.” Ah, yes but this has put the ‘spirit of the law’ issue to bed. We now know thanks to Richard Murphy (Pbuh) that if HMRC are happy with your tax affairs you are indeed tax compliant with not only the letter, but also the spirit of the law, and no complaints can be made about the morality (or not) of ones actions. It collapses everything back to tax evasion (naughty naughty, go straight to jail) and tax avoidance (Within the law, OK with HMRC, therefore perfectly ethical behaviour). Excellent! Jim May 26, 2016 at 3:56 pm Oh, and we also now know that if your tax affairs look slightly suspect, and people raise the question as to whether they are completely above board and beyond reproach, and HMRC declines to investigate and/or prosecute you, then this also means your affairs are squeaky clean. Its quite clear, the Tax Oracle has declared it so. Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.