The ghastly little fascists can fuck right off then

Britain would receive a disadvantageous deal after leaving the EU because Boris Johnson’s remarks about Hitler have insulted foreign leaders, the bloc’s most senior British official has said.

Jonathan Hill, the Commissioner for financial services, said EU governments would be more determined to use a Brexit to secure a “competitive advantage” over the UK and would “roll out the red carpet to our bankers” as a result of the Leave campaign’s rhetoric.

We’d best flee such malevolent little turds then, eh?

30 thoughts on “The ghastly little fascists can fuck right off then”

  1. This is real “battered wife syndrome” pleading – Sure, he beats you, but if you left him, he’d beat you more.

  2. What Hill is doing – isn’t that simply now part of the life long job description as an EU Commissioner?

    Ie, in order to continue to receive his current annual bung / future pensions and all that, he is and will be forever obliged to commit his life to, and lie on behalf of, the EU – and otherwise generally talk utter drivel – until death do them part?

    It’s what the rest of them have always done – once they’ve signed the T&Cs?

  3. Occurred to me yesterday that brexiteers could make more use of the image of the EU as Borg.

    You will be assimilated.

  4. I’m waiting for someone to point out to one of the Remain camp, when they are spouting on about how the rest of Europe is just waiting to do us down if we leave, how incredibly insulting, not to mention rather racist, they are being about our fellow Europeans.

    If one is alleging that they will actively seek to do us down after a Brexit, even (if one take the Harriet Harman line that Europe would impose export taxes on their own food production) to the extent of harming themselves directly, then that is a very nasty thing to say about someone, if not true. If its true of course then you’d want out PDQ anyway.

    If a friend came to me and said he was considering a divorce, and I said ‘Better not mate, your Missus is a psychotic cow, she’ll go mental on you if you want to leave’, thats not really being very complementary about his wife is it?

  5. It’s not the rest of Europe; it’s the Brussels Class. They don’t care about their citizens and, like a jilted junior high school girl, want to lash out at the one jilting them, consequences be damned.

  6. Johnson’s remarks weren’t about Hitler, they were about the EU and how it is repeating a long european history of trying to recreate the Roman Empire. Johnathan Hill appears to be an idiot. An unaccountable idiot obliged to show allegiance to the EU.

    “Margaritis Schinas, the Commission’s chief spokesman, insisted that the intervention did not break with a policy of not “campaigning” in the British referendum. Lord Hill’s speech – dedicated entirely to Brexit – was “part of his daily work”, Mr Schinas said.”

    By Hill’s words and actions he gives us a good example of why the UK is better off out. Rules are for little people and the EU has always been run this way.

  7. Anyone who read the interview in the Telegraph will be aware that Boris was actually quoted as saying how different the EU was from Hitler in the methods it’s using to achieve a united Europe. Not that a little thing like truth and facts will ever stop the professional offence-takers and SJWs that infest the Remainders.

  8. Hitler would be insulted to be compared to the EU.

    IfI was in charge post-Brexit I would let the EU wait for a trade deal. First stop would be South America for a deal to reduce the 25% import duty we are currently paying for their fruit and vegetables and then off to Africa to cut a deal that helps them. Then if the Germans are still trying to flog us their overpriced engineering we might sit down with the EU.

  9. Gareth, it was still Godwin.

    He implied that EU were trying to do as Hitler had imagined. There was nothing quite as nuanced as you want it to be.

    It’s on the same par as the twats that call it the EUSSR.

    It smacks of a deep-seated neurosis. In what way are any of you repressed?

    How will you be less repressed?

    On either side – what ‘victory’ will there be? Will right have triumphed over wrong?

    Are Hitler and Stalin reborn?

    FFS

  10. Miller

    Why use Hitler though? Is it necessary? It was clearly a use of language to inflame. Don’t be stupid to think otherwise.

  11. Would you have preferred “he who must not be named”? I suppose Boris could just have listed all the really nice people who have wanted to create a unified Europe. Except there haven’t been many, have there.

    But thanks for making my point so clearly.

  12. A puke like Arnald–who not only defends mass-murdering socialist scum but wants their evil re-incarnated in modern times–is on here whining about Hitler-comparisons and calling the EUSSR the EUSSR.

    Look to your own “deep-seated neurosis” you Gurn-Sea coprolite before your bad breath hits anybody else.

  13. I’m a bit lost. Who’s the malevolent little turd? Jonathan Hill, Boris Johnson, or foreign governments?

    In the context of this grubby little episode they would all seem to qualify.

  14. Ecks

    Which bit do you disapprove of. The bit where I think they’re all wrong, or the bit where I consider myself European in the context that being English qualifies me as European.

    Voting to remain within the EU isn’t anything to do with left or right. It’s a pragmatic opinion. Wanting such-and-such from any arrangement – from betting to marriage, can only happen if you’re actually there doing it.

    I think it’s fine if the outies believe they can deliver enough clout behind their soon-to-be masses of red tape to encourage trade. It’s good to be optimistic.

    It is the most coherent argument the innies have. Fuck all the armageddon talk, Being an armchair critic means nothing to anyone. If your name’s not on the list, then vas te faire foutre.

    Anyhoo, I’m glad you’re all agreed that the EU is analogous to the Third Reich. It confirms you’re all omnispaz together.

    It’s a shit argument and you know it, Miller. If there’s a no vote, I honestly look forward to the supposed saving being ploughed into the NHS.

    What do your reckon the chances are of that, despite its use as outy propaganda?

  15. Arnald,

    Boris Johnson wrote:

    “The whole thing began with the Roman Empire. I wrote a book on this subject, and I think it’s probably right. The truth is that the history of the last couple of thousand years has been broadly repeated attempts by various people or institutions – in a Freudian way – to rediscover the lost childhood of Europe, this golden age of peace and prosperity under the Romans, by trying to unify it. Napoleon, Hitler, various people tried this out, and it ends tragically.”

    “The EU is an attempt to do this by different methods. But fundamentally what it is lacking is the eternal problem, which is that there is no underlying loyalty to the idea of Europe. “

  16. Bloke in Lower Hutt

    I disagree, Arnald, the pragmatic option is to vote leave. I would do so fully secure in the knowledge that our own politicians would never actually honour a ‘No’ and would instead go back to the EU and attempt to get a couple more sweeteners thrown in before asking the public to vote again and correctly this time.

    Gordon Brown was right it is British to vote Remain, as a nation we’ve never been any good at haggling or negotiating. If we vote leave at least we might get a better deal for staying in, if we vote remain now, we are accepting the first offer and we wont get any more chances to renegotiate.

  17. Gareth

    Yes, I saw, and I’m amazed anyone can actually agree with it. Are you somehow cowed because, you know, BoJo?

    There’s never been a “Golden Age” of anything. You think the suits in Brussels see themselves as conquering overseers?

    The Napoleonic expansion coincided with all of the European countries vying for power, mainly ruled or proxy-ruled by a handful of the same extended families. All of those micro-dynasties made their mark far away from the reality of European union.

    I’m not sure why Johnson doesn’t mention the historical fluidity about which country was who’s and the changing borders and petty changes of allegiances that were happening until the first world war and seeping later into the twentieth century.

    The ‘methods’ being ‘used’ now, by an assembly – not a single dictator, are nothing like military domination. The analogies are simply childish. If anything they resemble a number of global corporations trying to agree favourable terms, or any terms, within a construct dominated by the biggest of them. Not unlike any free market ideal.

    The so-called erosion of the nation state is nothing but a compromise to be a player in that market. It’s nothing to do with an attack on sovereignty or cultural identity, The French FFS.

    Britain, at least the London aspect of England, could not possibly survive without its global financial industry, in fact for a lot of services it is a world leader. Does that mean that the UK is trying to conquer the world.

    Like japanese knotweed?

    Johnson is wrong. There was no golden age of Europe. It’s always been just Europe. Modern Europe has been dictated to by a few out of touch inbreds until very recently. Corruption and abuse of power has probably remained unchanged.

    Yes, we can elect to not be a part of that, but not because of any patriotism, but because we truly think we are better than them. Like all of our pseudo-British monarchs and generals.

    Mr Hutt

    I like your idea, but that’s not pragmatism, that’s a gamble that the UK would gain concession for giving in eventually.

  18. “I’m glad you’re all agreed that the EU is analogous to the Third Reich. It confirms you’re all omnispaz together.”

    No, we’re agreeing with Boris that the EU is different from the Third Reich, because that’s what he wrote. You can’t just say: “the words occur in the same sentence, and the rest of the words in the sentence don’t matter” (well, you can if you’re a clueless SJW, obvs).

    Comprehension isn’t really your strong suit, is it. Or self-awareness, either.

  19. @Arnald: “I like your idea, but that’s not pragmatism, that’s a gamble that the UK would gain concession for giving in eventually”.

    Where is the risk? The worst thing that can happen is that the EU slap a 4% average WTO-limited import duty on UK exports to the EU. With current exports flatlining at £230 billion that would cost us £10 billion, which is the same as our net annual payments into the EU, and in addition worst case we can do the same to imports from the EU raising an extra £14 billion if we really want to do that.

    That’s the only real incremental risk. Everything else you hear from politicians is bunkum. Everything has a risk but leaving the EU doesn’t change many of those risks, but it does open up a lot of opportunities.

  20. So Much For Subtlety

    Arnald – “Gareth, it was still Godwin. He implied that EU were trying to do as Hitler had imagined. There was nothing quite as nuanced as you want it to be.”

    Funny. I don’t remember you complaining when people compared Trump to Hitler. Or George W for that matter.

    In fact calling other people Fascists is pretty much the only argument the Left has these days. Which you seem fine with.

  21. SMFS

    “Funny. I don’t remember you complaining”

    Has there been a thread on either of those people? If there has been then I’ve not seen it. Whoever said it (I really don’t follow the nominee thing in the US) are fuckwits.

    “In fact calling other people Fascists is pretty much the only argument the Left has these days. Which you seem fine with.”

    It’s not me calling people fascists (except for Ecks who copies and pastes from Stormfront), you idiot –

    The ghastly little fascists can fuck right off then

    It’s Worstall.

  22. Arnald is ploying pseudo-reason this time out. Trying to sound like the Voice of same rather than his usual CM Lord Haw-Haw.

    Now that Drunker –and I believe Fat-Cow Merkal –.have quite openly said they will be working to discount and undermine “far-right” governments if any European voters are wicked enough to vote them in anywhere, all pretence of the EU being anything other than a nascent EUSSR is gone. Far-right –always a meaningless statement as fascism IS socialism–now means anyone who refuses to kiss the arse of cultural Marxism.

    “I’m not sure why Johnson doesn’t mention the historical fluidity about which country was who’s and the changing borders and petty changes of allegiances that were happening until the first world war and seeping later into the twentieth century.”

    What the burger-flipping fuckwit means is WAR. Which is how the old scum elites of Europe got their goodies while everybody else got death and economic disruption.

    The mushroom cloud spoiled that game. The elite is still elite sitting in a bunker eating tinned peaches while everyone outside is dead or heading that way fast. But it don’t compare to taking their latest paid girlfriend to the Savoy for dinner. The EU is the “elites” response to that like Chicago gangs forming a syndicate instead of fighting all the time. Bad for the Rackets.

    “The ‘methods’ being ‘used’ now, by an assembly – not a single dictator, are nothing like military domination. The analogies are simply childish. If anything they resemble a number of global corporations trying to agree favourable terms, or any terms, within a construct dominated by the biggest of them. Not unlike any free market ideal.”

    The “free market” deals are statist bullshit Arnie. But are we to take it you are a fan of global corporations now–in your endless search for lies that will fly?

    “The so-called erosion of the nation state is nothing but a compromise to be a player in that market. It’s nothing to do with an attack on sovereignty or cultural identity, The French FFS.”

    The above is not a naïve statement. Because Arnald is socialist scum to whom the word “naïve” could no more be applied than could the word “decent”.

    Arnald is a lying sack of shit. Who knows very well the lies he propagates and the reasons that he tells them. To bring about tyrannical socialism imposed on all the rest of us in service of his own over-weaning ego.

    ” Modern Europe has been dictated to by a few out of touch inbreds until very recently. Corruption and abuse of power has probably remained unchanged.”

    Still remains unchanged numb-nuts. But he knows that well enough and doesn’t care. Any lie will do if he can induce people to swallow it.

    He is correct on one small point. Tim uses fascist far too frequently. It is a lazy habit of mind and plays into the decades of leftist liars putting out the propaganda that fascism is nothing to do with socialism. Whereas it IS socialism. Tim should say “fucking socialist commissar scum” as a much more correct and apt insult.

    As the fascist bollocks is an example of the leftist tactic of endless repetition of lies being accepted into the miliEU so its back to the old “StormFront” bollocks again. Do you really think that is going to work Laurence? Keep saying the same shit over and over and that will make it true? Do you want fries with that?

  23. Ecks

    It’s a good stand-up routine that you’re refining. Today Irrelevant Timmy’s, tomorrow the magic roundabout just outside Hemel Hempstead. Or Swindon, depends what gig your agent can get you.

    Seriously, though. Wtf?

  24. Congratulations everybody: well down to the usual standard of debate
    @ Arnald One consolation of a vote for Brexit would be that the Conservative Party would disintegrate as the more Establishment figures ,Cameron, Osborne etc ,would attack the winners.Probably, in view of what happened to the once supreme Liberal Party, the Conservative Party would disappear finally and forever. Corbyn’s Labour would then
    reign supreme ,free of EU restrictions and, given Corbyn’s vintage, enact the old anti EC policies which Labour worked out before the 75 referendum: reversal of the EU’s ban on State aid for strategic industries, Keynesian stimulus and discouragement of collective bargaining.
    It by no means a discouraging prospect but people keep telling me this price is too high!!?
    (It could be that Brexit is a carefully hatched plot by supremely cunning Lefties to destroy the Conservative Party by encouraging its deep-seated divisions over Europe.As a lefty I am sceptical that we could be so clever for so long or have strong enough stomachs to put up with the entryism of their innermost circles.But I do believe the Tories would be so stupid as to fall for it and into it.

  25. “It’s a good stand-up routine that you’re refining. Today Irrelevant Timmy’s, tomorrow the magic roundabout just outside Hemel Hempstead. Or Swindon, depends what gig your agent can get you.”

    Still laughing about the millions your gang have murdered Arnald?

    Swindon not good enough for your Islington sensibilities anymore? To much chance of meeting up with all those working class people who don’t swallow your socialist shite?

    And DBC looks down his patrician nose at our standards of debate. His crew again wade in the blood and ruin of ordinary people but we are nasty and uncouth. He looks forward to the triumph of middle-class Marxist shite and the Venezuelan paradise Corbyn would usher in.

    You two should author a book together. Try “Two Turds In Fountain” for a title. Have it translated into Esperanto. It would make more sense and be funnier that way.

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