Welcome to the 19th century

IN an unprecedented experiment that ayurveda experts said was a “first in the world”, a bunch of doctors successfully operated upon an 83 year-old man for prostatic, removing a massive 240 gm of prostate, without using antibiotics.

He’s fine apparently. But anesthesia without antibiotics in surgery, that is 19th century. And there’s a good reason why, when antibiotics became available, everyone started using them.

10 thoughts on “Welcome to the 19th century”

  1. Well, they used to do limb amputations with neither anaesthetics nor antibiotics & a carpenter’s saw. Some of the patients survived. Maybe they should experiment with aromatherapy
    I’m sure the woman keeps sending me links to woo medicine – including the Indian bloke who reportedly has been living totally without food for several years, thriving on mystic energies – would be all alongside it . Might even volunteer, with any luck

  2. So Much For Subtlety

    It should be obvious to point out that operating on someone without antibiotics is easy. It is the surviving after that is difficult.

    The better question is whether they used anaesthetic.

    Still thanks to a lack of new drugs, we will all be there soon enough.

  3. “It should be obvious to point out that operating on someone without antibiotics is easy. It is the surviving after that is difficult.”

    I think we can all agree, as far as the medical profession’s concerned, the priority is their careers survive. The outcome for the patient’s irrelevant.

  4. Two weeks ago I underwent a 7 hour operation (partial thyroid lobectomy plus removal of attached tumour). I was walking the following day and discharged from hospital after 4 days. That was under general anaesthetic, but no antibiotics were involved and I have no infection.

    I had slight discomfort from the operation, but no pain. Maybe I’m lucky. Or maybe it’s because I live in a society where rigourous standards of professionalism are expected and maintained.

  5. Bloke no Longer in Austria

    Ha ! He should hav had it done on the NHS-

    At least they give you a slug of rum and a piece of wood to bite on, before going at you with the rusty saw…

  6. The saw might have been rusty, but by Jove they were quick!

    In one of his serious books, the late Richard Gordon mentioned the “Guiness Book of Records” “fastest amputation” – which was done in something like 12 seconds to remove a leg… Apparently, not only did the surgeon remove the leg in question but also half of the patient’s left testicle and two of his assistant’s fingers. However, the patient subsequently died, as did the assistant after contracting septacaemia, also one onlooker (it was done in a real “operating theatre”) died of a heart attack brought on by the scene he’d just witnessed.

    Thereby, Dr Gordon concluded, it was the only medical procedure in history to have had a 300% mortality rate. 🙂

  7. “Currently, antibiotics are an inseparable part of standard operating procedure. In the four-hour long operation, surgeons only used anaesthesia but no antibiotics before, during or post-operation recovery , and only depended on ayurvedic medicines.”

    I don’t get it – using no antibiotics is not hard. Its not even noticeable. Antibiotics are not for the *surgery*, they’re to prevent infection rising later. Modern surgeons don’t use antibiotics to ‘do’ surgery, only to control infection.

    Anesthetics make the surgery easier, antibiotics only make it likely that you will survive it.

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