And the People of England have now spoken

Smile at us, pay us, pass us; but do not quite forget;
For we are the people of England, that never have spoken yet.
There is many a fat farmer that drinks less cheerfully,
There is many a free French peasant who is richer and sadder than we.
There are no folk in the whole world so helpless or so wise.
There is hunger in our bellies, there is laughter in our eyes;
You laugh at us and love us, both mugs and eyes are wet:
Only you do not know us. For we have not spoken yet.
The fine French kings came over in a flutter of flags and dames.
We liked their smiles and battles, but we never could say their names.
The blood ran red to Bosworth and the high French lords went down;
There was naught but a naked people under a naked crown.
And the eyes of the King’s Servants turned terribly every way,
And the gold of the King’s Servants rose higher every day.
They burnt the homes of the shaven men, that had been quaint and kind,
Till there was no bed in a monk’s house, nor food that man could find.
The inns of God where no man paid, that were the wall of the weak.
The King’s Servants ate them all. And still we did not speak.

And the face of the King’s Servants grew greater than the King:
He tricked them, and they trapped him, and stood round him in a ring.
The new grave lords closed round him, that had eaten the abbey’s fruits,
And the men of the new religion, with their bibles in their boots,
We saw their shoulders moving, to menace or discuss,
And some were pure and some were vile; but none took heed of us.
We saw the King as they killed him, and his face was proud and pale;
And a few men talked of freedom, while England talked of ale.

A war that we understood not came over the world and woke
Americans, Frenchmen, Irish; but we knew not the things they spoke.
They talked about rights and nature and peace and the people’s reign:
And the squires, our masters, bade us fight; and scorned us never again.
Weak if we be for ever, could none condemn us then;
Men called us serfs and drudges; men knew that we were men.
In foam and flame at Trafalgar, on Albuera plains,
We did and died like lions, to keep ourselves in chains,
We lay in living ruins; firing and fearing not
The strange fierce face of the Frenchmen who knew for what they fought,
And the man who seemed to be more than a man we strained against and broke;
And we broke our own rights with him. And still we never spoke.

Our patch of glory ended; we never heard guns again.
But the squire seemed struck in the saddle; he was foolish, as if in pain,
He leaned on a staggering lawyer, he clutched a cringing Jew,
He was stricken; it may be, after all, he was stricken at Waterloo.
Or perhaps the shades of the shaven men, whose spoil is in his house,
Come back in shining shapes at last to spoil his last carouse:
We only know the last sad squires rode slowly towards the sea,
And a new people takes the land: and still it is not we.

They have given us into the hand of new unhappy lords,
Lords without anger or honour, who dare not carry their swords.
They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes;
They look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies.
And the load of their loveless pity is worse than the ancient wrongs,
Their doors are shut in the evening; and they know no songs.

We hear men speaking for us of new laws strong and sweet,
Yet is there no man speaketh as we speak in the street.
It may be we shall rise the last as Frenchmen rose the first,
Our wrath come after Russia’s wrath and our wrath be the worst.
It may be we are meant to mark with our riot and our rest
God’s scorn for all men governing. It may be beer is best.
But we are the people of England; and we have not spoken yet.
Smile at us, pay us, pass us. But do not quite forget.

They’re not going to forget us now, are they? For we have indeed spoken yet.

89 thoughts on “And the People of England have now spoken”

  1. Now – we just have to see if this isn’t spun into *another* vote.

    ‘Well, now we need to vote on whether or not people really, really meant their last vote’.

    Or worse, its just drug on in the hopes that the population will lose interest so that some new ‘treaty’ can be worked out that has you nominally exiting but still bound by all the duties and responsibilities to the EU you have now.

  2. The early statements from both sides show that they don’t have a fucking clue what happens next.

    Which is typical of our governing elite – and I don’t mean just politicians.

    Nobody has a clue how to run a tea room and nobody has looked beyond June 24.

  3. Jean Monnet, Michael Heseltine, Peter Mandelson, David Cameron, Coudehove and Kalergi, Anjem Choudhary, George Osborne, George Soros, Ken Clarke, the Bilderbergers, the Rothschilds, the central bankers, Janet Yellen, the UN, the Vampire Squid, Jeremy Corbyn, Emily Thornberry, [I could go on all morning] your boys took a helluva beating!

  4. Cameron will doubtless be quoting Churchill this fine morning: “The people have spoken. Bastards.”

  5. Well done to the peoples of Britain. Hoping against hope that with other states agitating for exit, there may be some meaningful reform of the EU for those of us still stuck in its maw.

  6. Corbyn’s speech just now is typical.

    He was campaigning for Remain and he’s sorry they lost but he really wanted to Leave all along and Leave won because of Tory austerity and it’s important that the Chancellor creates a strong pound as that it good for business.

    Cretinous prat.

  7. First good domestic political news in my adult life.

    I actually want to watch/listen to/hear the news.

  8. That verse is vomit. But still, I get the sentiment. Let’s see what happens.

    Good to see the turn out and the engagement.

    I’m not surprised nor unhappy. Too many Remain lies.

  9. not to trivialise this momentous occasion but wouldn’t it be great if one of the home countries went on to win the footie……

  10. miller

    Corbyn is being honest. He said all along that he’s never liked the EU. He hardly ‘campaigned’. He said on balance we should perhaps stay in. He refused to share a platform with Cameron, and he’s rightly stated, in a similar way to Farage just now, that the Leave won because the people didn’t agree with the status quo.

  11. @Adam

    I’d almost be happy if Wales won (and the remain scots weren’t allowed even into the tournament).

  12. Freedom yes, but this plan of yours had better fucking work. Some of us have mortgages to pay and mouths to feed.

  13. Add inability to comprehend verse to your list of failings Worstall.
    Chesterton is calling for the people of this country to rise up and
    take ownership of its land and industry:its what he’s known for,
    Distributism .Not that you’d expect a member of the British upper class to have received an education.

  14. BiI: “Cameron will doubtless be quoting Churchill this fine morning: “The people have spoken. Bastards.””

    Nah, he’s quoting Nixon: ‘You won’t have Cameron to kick around any more..’

  15. Glad for the day.

    However the action has hardly begun.

    Contrary to PT’s dopey comment about “enjoy the recession” people need to be aware that a recession is coming to the West–and those the West buys from /trades with= everyone.

    Out of the EU gets rid of one layer of thieving and bureaucracy but the mountains of home-grown and international debt and regulation will still cause recession worldwide and worse soon enough.

    The fact that we may be forced to grapple with economic malaise ahead of the rest is a good thing. We can be the first country forced by circumstances to drop the destructive tonnage of cultural Marxist/corporate socialist bullshit and return to sound fiscal/political common sense. If so that will be of great value to us in the future.

    We must also be aware of the danger of our own political scum. I can’t see them trying the old second vote routine but I certainly don’t trust Johnson further than he could be thrown.

    Camoron and the Skull must go: they are a treasonous busted flush. It galls to think of them pissing off to a cozy retirement when they should be heading for the gallows but so long as they are gone.

    That so many people voted to remain is a terrible indictment. A some number–perhaps a a million+ will be the enemy class–well-off CM scum and their fellow travellers. Some will be migrants. Most will be middle class and trying to hold on to their peanut pile cos their alright Jack. They won’t be able to for much longer. In or out of the EU big economic trouble is coming. Out of the EU gives us flexibility and a chance for a long-overdue reform of ourselves and our systems.

    The SNP needs a kicking. They won’t dare call another ref and that is our chance. They need to be justly humiliated by being forced to drop their “named person” commissar crap and their edicts about football singing. We need a leader with the guts to do the job. Not Farage I think –tho’ we owe him a debt amongst many others. David Davies maybe. I have little faith in political pork but if we can keep our momentum time is not on the EUs side.

    This referendum was rushed thro’ in obscene haste to try and get us trapped in the EU with no way out. The need for speed was because the Eurotrash are on a downbound train. Economics, migrants, unrest everywhere. All are going to get much worse. Drunker will be dead of cirrhosis in a matter of months the pressure the bastards are now going to be under. 1 year, 2 years from now many of those who thought remain was in their economic interest will be able to see that it is not and never was. The skull will be revealed beneath the Eurocrats smug mugs.

    Thanks and well done to everyone involved in making Brexit happen. I have no taste for gloating–we have too much to do.

  16. Let the shitbag Cameron try and pull his usual tratorious antics, and it will be beautiful to see the Wrath of the Awakened Saxon come forth.

  17. Now the EU can release all their “bad news” like VAT changes (final elimination of zero-rating) that it was holding back till after the vote.

    I hope that the Leave crowd publicise this and say “told you so, the backstabbing Eurocrats”.

  18. Andrew M: I don’t see any problems arising with that. Could start recovering the money stolen from the British people, by seizing anything the lizard Soros has holdings in. Plenty of other enemies of the British nation to target after that.

  19. This is not the end; it is not even the beginning of the end. But it is the end of the beginning. Or words to that effect.

    The Bastards will have to be watched like hawks. We need an eight man shove, and a scrum-half who will harry them. The threes will have to hold a line in defence. Etc, etc.

    I trust the buggers not an inch. Give them no rest; push, and push, and push.

    “In victory, magnanimity”: aye, but only once victory is achieved. So far all we’ve done is stop their relentless advance. We’ve still got to put them into retreat, and then preferably put them to flight. This is no time for indulgent self-congratulation: press, press, press. Harass, harass, harass.

  20. Bollocks and buggeration.

    Echo Andrew M’s sentiment – I didn’t vote for it, but more people did and that’s democracy for you. This Brexit thing better bloody work.

  21. The Other Bloke in Italy


    A commenter suggested a couple of posts back that the murder of Jo Cox cost us 5%. Quite possible, though I should guess mainly in abstentions.

    Project Fear probably moved another 5% into the Remain camp.

    Ballot stuffing? Perhaps 1-2%.

    The “real result” is nearer 60:40. What we need now is a confident administration to lead the negotiations.

    I expect to suffer for a while, mainly from a fall in the pound, but my concerns are trivial, and probably short-term.

  22. I bet there’s a lot of EU citizens nervously eyeing the door that us Brits just kicked open right now.

  23. We need to begin attacks on CM.

    Purge the Unis and drop the 50%-should-go-to-Uni nonsense that Bliar started.

    The BBC charter likewise and Guardian job adverts and smashing up the turd–sorry third sector, quangos–a real bonfire this time etc.

    Massive amounts could be saved from the UK govt budget without any immediate rush to cut social services etc. The Toy Train set needs to be cancelled as do the pathetic little cuts that gave ZaNu its “austerity” narrative.

    We need brainpower to come up with real reforms aimed at creating a better set of state systems–properly thought through not messed-up bodges like IDS’s capers. Systems that will operate better for now but are also structured to be able to be wound down over a period of 40-50 years bringing the socialist “welfare/warfare” state gradually to an end.

    Of course to do this the scum of the Senior Civil Service need to be sacked on mass without compensation and their pensions confiscated. Otherwise they will sabotage everything. Smash them all now before they get a chance.

    So much to do.

  24. Fantastic, now though we have to make sure the pols don’t steal this victory away one inch at a time.

  25. Mr Ecks has nailed it.

    No time for gloating – welll maybe until lunchtime then we’ve got to get back to work to make this thing work that we have wrought.

  26. William Pitt the Younger: “England has saved herself by her exertions and as I trust will save Europe by her example”

  27. Hold the celebrations. A Chris Bergen comments at TRUK:

    The aftermath of a revolution is upon us now that ignorance, racicm, bigotry and greed are in charge.

  28. Yet again a tiny selfish majority has overridden the wishes of the vast progressive minority. It’s the Thatcher years all over again.

  29. Bloke in North Dorset

    I thought Cameron got it about right. There’s no rush and far more important that negotiations are undertaken in a calm and considered way with a new PM and Cabinet than to go rushing around trying to do everything at once when emotions are high.

    Corbyn was a disaster but Labour blew it when Gordon Brown made it clear what they really think about their core vote with his “that woman” and “bigot” comments.

    Fallon proved himself to be the nasty little dwarf that he is.

    BraveFart and the other ScotCon on this blog will have a better feel, but just because Scotland voted Remain it doesn’t follow that they would want to leave the UK – part of an out UK may be a better proposition than being a small so called independent country in the EU, and they’d probably have to join the Euro.

    As the Chinese are wont to say, we are living in interesting times.

  30. I suggest a permanent statue in Trafalgar Square of the person who delivered the Leave votes: Angela Merkel, who threw open the doors of the EU to the uncontrolled immigration of savages.

    Without her actions we’d be looking at an equivalent Remain win today.

    A shame Germany had to be sacrificed to make it possible. Still, they owe us.

  31. I just had a gander at Richard North’s (EU Referendum) Blog and he seems to think he’s going to be running the negotiations or something. Among other things he seems to have decided we’re going to retain Single Market membership and, er, free movement.

    It has a certain air of the Richard Murphy’s about it.

  32. No, it’s far more important that Cameron and his cronies ride the lamppost as soon as possible. It is surprising that their pursuit of the majority vote of the focus group forced them to betray their class and allow the vote, but it doesn’t make them any less deserving of their just reward.

  33. @Machiavelli – CHFGBP back to where it was last Thursday, EURGBP not far behind.

    So that Spanish holiday that apparently won’t be affordable now post-vote also wasn’t affordable last week either 😉

  34. Richard North is certainly an odd cove. For years he’s just criticised Farage and moaned that Brexiters can’t win because they don’t have a detailed five thousand page road-map for leaving the EU.

    Yet here we are. Farage did it. The magnificent bastard did it.

  35. Congratioulations to the British people! Only time before Italy will get out of the EU dictatorship too

  36. The pound falling is no big deal. Looking at the longer term rates, this change is invisible, and a bit of a lower pound will help our exports, which is a good thing in a time of uncertainty.

    The stock market falling may seem to be more serious, but really, it’s not that bad. It most certainly is NOT a declaration that leaving the EU will be a disaster for the economy. If that were true, then we’d be seeing at least 25% falls, and total carnage. That would obviously be worrying. But a 7-8% drop just reflects the fact that there will be uncertainty ahead. No-one denies that the next few years will be a bit tricky, and business hates uncertainty, and that could cost some sales, so a drop of this magnitude is understandable. It definitely does not signal that leaving the EU will be some financial disaster. In fact, it’s a strong signal that it actually won’t be that bad. And I expect stocks to eventually regain their ground as negotiations go on.

  37. And Spain can have Gibralter now, if they still want it.

    Traitors’ Island we call it, even though it’s an isthmus.

  38. The word that keeps popping into my head this morning is ‘exquisite’. Can’t help but be delighted at the result…

  39. 1. Labour said Leavers were all bigoted racists.

    2. Labour heartlands voted Leave in huge numbers.

    Spin your way out of that one, Seamus.

  40. Bloke in North Dorset

    Given that nobody set out a clear future if we voted Remain there would have been some uncertainty if that had happened and we waited to see what sort of shafting we would have received for daring to even think about leaving.

  41. I give you a toast Ladies and gentlemen,
    I give you a toast Ladies and gentlemen
    May this fair land we love so well,
    In Dignity and freedom dwell.
    while worlds may change and go awry,
    Whilst there is still one voice to cry!—
    There’ll always be an England,
    While there’s a country lane.
    Wherever there’s a cottage small
    Beside a field of grain
    There’ll always be an England
    While there’s a busy street.
    Wherever there’s a turning wheel
    A million marching feet.
    Red, white and blue
    What does it mean to you?
    Surely you’re proud
    Shout it loud
    Britons awake!
    The Empire too
    We can depend on you.
    Freedom remains
    These are the chains
    Nothing can break.
    There’ll always be an England
    And England shall be free
    If England means as much to you
    As England means to me.
    Shorter and betterer.

  42. And people are now saying the govt should ignore the result.

    Which *would* lead to major issues. I cannot think of anything more stupid than ignoring the result.

  43. Bloke in North Dorset

    According to the BBC’s tickertape on the TV Martin Schulz has said that now is the time to behave seriously. WTF is he on.

  44. We couldn’t have done it without the brave example of Iceland. In gratitude we should support them in the soccer.

  45. Yes, I was thinking about the traitor Heath.

    Like Jimmy Savile he died before everything unravelled.

    Most annoying.

  46. Ian B,

    Try having a closer look at North’s Flexcit plan is for a staged exit from the EU, probably (but not necessarily) via returning to the EFTA as an interim position. This could lighten the negotiating load and spook fewer horses than prolonged negotiations leading to an full exit.

    Freedom of Movement would have to be retained to some degree as we would still be in the EEA at that time but there are stronger emergency brakes on FoM that can be deployed *and* a precedent set by Liechtenstein of being in the EEA but having migrant quotas.

  47. Vernon Bogdanor is not a man I’d normally appeal to for support, but I think he nailed it. Everyone (well Dan Hannan) was going on about this “no hurry, gentle start to negotiations, then maybe Article 50 eventually” type thing, and Bogdanor said (to paraphrase) that the British people had given an instruction to government and were expecting it to be carried out, to cease paying the EU and to put border controls in place, and get out as fast as possible. This wasn’t a matter for politicians to think about, because they’d been directly instructed via this referendum.

    People voted under considerable pressure not to, in decisive numbers, to get out of the EU and get entirely out. They are expecting action and expecting it fast.

    Richard North might have been planning to slowly disengage himself for years, and stay in the Single Market and keep the borders porous, but that isn’t what we all tramped to the polling stations for yesterday. We’ve instructed the Parliament what to do, and they need to bloody well get on and do it.

  48. I’m not sure invoking Article 50 is the right thing to do, but I am worried that the more time goes on, the more likely it is that the Establishment will be able to weasel out of this result. For that reason I’d like a decisive, official declaration now that we are out, and let the leaving negotiations begin.

  49. I’m sure I used to read Richard North years ago and he was fiercely anti-EU. Is it the same person?

  50. Well, the sensible thing would have been for Cameron to go to the Palace and ask the Queen to appoint another government. She could then have asked Johnson to form a cabinet (cross-party) to start the process.

    The whole situation is interesting. The Parliament is explicitly there by authorisation of the people, Bill of Rights and all that, and so is the Monarchy (since the Glorious Revolution). All the stuff about PM’s being the leaders of the winning party is just convention. We may be in a position where significant constitutional innovation is required, since the people have just explicitly ordered the Parliament to do something the majority of the current members do not want to do; so if they vote as they wish, they will be voting against the expressed wish of their employers (us).

    So I would guess that the way forward might be use of the Royal Perogative to repeal the European Community Act or whatever it is called. Because unless the parties change most of their MPs, we’d have to all vote UKIP or something to get a Parliament prepared to carry out our wishes.

    Some sort of convention that a referendum overrides the Parliament altogether is in order, I think. Probably like I suggested cobbled together from the Royal Perogative thingy.

  51. Rob,

    I’m not an expert on North but it seems to me he’s more interested in some old feud with other Eurosceptics these days.

  52. Last time I looked North just wanted us to initially join the EEA in the short-term, and then maybe move away from it later when we make other arrangements. A pretty reasonable position, whether or not you agree with it.

  53. North always was a bit of an odd cove. Dropping back to EEA status seems an ideal solution to be negotiating from and offer breathing space. I’m guessing that we can’t propose this or any other solutions as such, until article 50 has been invoked and its ‘official’ to the Eurocrats.

  54. Well yes, using Article 50 is what North has been banging on about for all these yeas (as well as slagging off Kippers).

  55. I think, like Ian B said, that the instruction from the referendum is clear. Out now. Maybe there should be another one. Out Now or Out In A Couple Of Years Time Providing All The Ducks Are In The Right Rows.

    Will I now need a visa to work in France? Or will I be stopped at the border being threatened that if I leave the white indigenous race will be further diluted?

    Are we going to build a massive wall?

    Eh, Farage, those bloody merchant bankers.

  56. Just one question, with which part of that crappy poem did a spotty, overweight, badly clothed and ill-shaven oik who lives in Portugal relate? Going to learn Portuguese anytime soon, Tim? Are you one of those immigrants who should be chucked out?

  57. “with which part of that crappy poem did a spotty, overweight, badly clothed and ill-shaven oik who lives in Portugal relate? Going to learn Portuguese anytime soon, Tim? Are you one of those immigrants who should be chucked out?”

    And those nice Remain people wonder why they lost the referendum.

  58. Mr Has-Bean–There is no reason why expulsion should be confined to migrants.

    This country is blighted by a substantial enemy class of well-off middle and upper class scum whose allegiance is to the evil of Cultural Marxism and not the UK.

    Since these types hate this country and its people they would be better re-located somewhere more to their liking. Islamtown, Belgium seems an excellent destination for such traitors. They will be with those who hate peace, prosperity, reason and white people as much as they do.

  59. Since Mr Worstall does not believe in the free movement of labour (in a free trade area) he should ,by rights, re-locate.

  60. DBC–The free movement of labour is a cloak for the balkanisation of whole nations. A substantial % of the “labour” has come here to sign on and receive freebies.

    This suits Marxist evil-supporters like yourself. But now its done. Some migrants will still be able to come. Once we have ensured that they are hard-working people with useful skills and good character. Not free-loading scummy representatives of assorted evil doctrines of conquest and tyranny and/or criminals.

  61. “A substantial % of the “labour” has come here to sign on and receive freebies.”

    What’s the percentage, Ecksy? Do you have any proof that Europeans come over to the UK just to ‘sign’ on?

    If it’s the case that ‘substantial’ percentage come over to the UK to be unemployed, how come our unemployment rates are so low, in comparison to the EU countries?

  62. Larrinold:

    The TUC says 6,3 million are unemployed in the UK. Do you call your comrades liars?

    Now it is true that many in EE migrants work at low paying jobs and sign up to benefits as well:

    “Benefit claims are divided into a number of discrete groups in the Labour Force Survey. These benefits account for a large part of ‘welfare’ spending on people of working age and children, comprising for example Housing benefit in 2013/14 costing £18 billion for people below pension age, tax credits costing £29 billion, and Child benefit £11 billion. Looking at overall results it can be seen from figure 18 that rates of claim for Housing benefit, tax credits and Child benefit among the migrant population are considerably higher than among the UK-born. Rates of claim for Income Support and Jobseeker’s Allowance differ little between migrants and the UK-born: these cost around £7bn. Migrant rates of claim are noticeably lower only for sickness/disability benefits and the various allowances for carers etc. ”

    Which means they are taking a job a UK native could do and taking taxpayer money as well.

    Free from the EU any skilled men with needed skills–polish plumbers etc –who wants to come here still can as far as I am concerned. But we don’t need 700000+ poles alone here to mostly work at unskilled jobs ( that UK jobless could do) and draw benefits as well.

    And if UK natives don’t want to work–as defenders of migrants often opine–that needs to be changed.

  63. People voted to Leave the European Union for two primary and related reasons. Firstly, the EU compromises the most natural and stable state of affairs, which is ethnic self rule with respect for the autonomy of other peoples. Secondly, the EU enables mass immigration, which reduces trust, cooperation and social cohesion. Conversely, people voted to Remain a member of the EU primarily because it enables free trade within the EU, and free trade makes both parties richer.

    The younger generations tended to vote to Remain largely because they are in denial of the realities of the reasons to leave, because for three decades the major UK political parties, the government, the media and academia have been dominated by the political left and their identity politics and political correctness.

    The trick, for maximal happiness and wealth, is to banish political correctness, recognise human nature and optimally combine universal nationalism with neoliberalism.

  64. Martin Sewell: Agree with all you points.

    “Conversely, people voted to Remain a member of the EU primarily because it enables free trade within the EU, and free trade makes both parties richer.”

    The EU is a customs Union that excludes the rest of the Earth and harms others.

    The only obstacle to free trade is political and bureaucratic scum–which is what the EU is all about.

    If remain voters truly support free trade they should not have been for remain.

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