Leaving the EU is a rejection of neoliberalism

It did so because the country has rejected the consequences of neoliberalism but without knowing what to put in its place.

Err, yes, yes. We’ll put that up there as one of the more astute political commentaries of recent times, shall we?

56 thoughts on “Leaving the EU is a rejection of neoliberalism”

  1. Let me guess who.

    He is preparing his 180 degree volte-face on EU membership. I think he senses Corbyn will do the same and he wants to be one of the lap dogs chasing and yapping in the baggage train.

  2. The Meissen Bison

    Bother! I must have voted in the wrong referendum. Mine had nothing to do with neoliberalism and there was no problem about what to have instead of the EU.

    Should we try to crowdfund some liposuction for Murphy’s brain? Obviously the sum of human happiness might reduce but it’s hardly humane to laugh at such a fathead.

  3. Seriously, as far Richie is concerned, me having a shit this morning would have been a sign of rejection of neoliberalism. The man is a stuck record.

  4. What cannot be disputed is it was a rejection of the arguments made by the Remainers. He was one, he made many arguments. A rejection of neoliberalism was it Richard? Fair enough; that makes you a neoliberal.

    But actually, you’re just a pratt aren’t you.

  5. The Inimitable Steve

    as far Richie is concerned, me having a shit this morning would have been a sign of rejection of neoliberalism.

    Was it a brek shit?

  6. Bloke in North Dorset

    “And now the Labour Party is imploding”

    Yep. It was supposed to be the Tories, their turn will come, but in the meantime I’m enjoying the spectacle.

  7. Isn’t it time for #SaveJezza to replace #ToriesForCorbyn? Don’t want him replaced with someone electable do we?

  8. The Inimitable Steve

    Rob – actually, I’d respect Corbyn more if he did a 180 on Brexit, admitted he was wrong, and humbly accepted the will of the people.

    I suspect many on the slime green benches will instead double down on their contempt for the British electorate. Brain donor David Lammy MP is only saying what a lot of them are probably thinking.

  9. Serious question. Did anyone refer to Cameron’s success in his renegotiation during the campaign? When he came back from Brussels he claimed to have won some constantive concessions.

    Less seriously, those big wigs that told him to piss off are now outraged by the vote. Their venom is particularly directed at Cameron. In their view, he’s a fraud who got into a posh club without wearing a tie and then went and pissed all over the chesterfields. (I paraphrase, but not much.)

  10. Although everything and anything can be ‘neo-liberal’, I thought free movement of capital and people across borders would have been safely in the neo-liberal camp?

  11. People voted Leave for many reasons – dislike of the EU project, concerns about immigration, irritation with EU laws, etc. But there’s no denying that many – UKIP’s working class constituency – voted Leave in part because they want their industries and jobs protected from globalization. To that very limited extent, the Murphatollah has a point.

  12. bloke in france,

    “Serious question. Did anyone refer to Cameron’s success in his renegotiation during the campaign? When he came back from Brussels he claimed to have won some constantive concessions.”

    No. Because what he won were nominal. Something to give him a list.

    I might have bottled it and voted remain except that he just kept lying and the first one was that if he didn’t come back with enough, he’d campaign for out. He knew it was a big nothing because he never went back to it.

  13. The fact that 2.8 million signed their piece of Marxist shite is a national disgrace.

    If remain had won all we would be hearing would be about the need to pulltogether, heal wounds etc.

    However we have a list of 2.8 million cunts who are friends of tyranny.

    Good.

    I think mass charges of treason and sedition and a £10000 fine each. Not too steep considering that ZaNu –in its Princess Toni heyday–wanted to fine people £1000 –or was it £2000–for not having a bell on their bike.

    Failing that a mass roundup, strip them of UK citizenship, deport them to the EU–Germany will take them. Esp if we confiscate and sell everything they have and send the money to the German/EU treasury. They will effectively be the only refugees paying their way and will be helping their EU chums .

    In the interests of human decency I would see that any pets they had went to good homes. That way they can start their new racist/ parochialism/ fogie-free life without worrying about Fido.

  14. The Inimitable Steve

    Calm down Ecksy.

    2.8m people have not signed any petition. It’s being spammed by script kids.

  15. 25th June – “As I have already noted, whether we will have an economic crisis cannot be known as yet.”
    26th June -“I think indisputable: all the economic indicators suggest that we are heading for a recession”
    Is there no beginning to the great man’s consistency?

  16. The Meissen Bison

    JuliaM *looks at Labour big beasts*

    Shouldn’t that read “*looks at Labour’s stunted menagerie*”?

    Mr Ecks: The fact that 2.8 million signed their piece of Marxist shite is a national disgrace.

    It’s probably an international disgrace – no telling where these signatures originated…

  17. MB: Now that is a thought that hadn’t occurred to me on a slow Sunday morning.

    How many of the twat signers are CM Eurotrash or Killery supporters. Or robots maybe.

    A breakdown of who are local signers is needed. Can this be done outside of the control of the petition organisers?–do any techies know?

    If it turns out only a half-mil are in the UK that would be a more positive development and would take loads of wind out of left-scum sails.

  18. This is all highly entertaining.

    People are about to see what happens when there isn’t a functioning government or opposition. And they’ll realise that they can get along with the lives just fine.

    Another win I would say.

  19. I honestly think it will all go to shit – I’ve got the same feeling of ‘this can’t possibly work out well’ now that I had when I was watching Syriza top the polls in Greece (and I lost a lot of money betting on Grexit, the capitulating fuckers).

    Hope I’m wrong though, I’ve got it quite cushty at the moment, the plebs rebelling would be inconvenient.

  20. Ecksy

    I read yesterday (The Times?) that most of the first 0.5m signatures were from student areas and areas that had voted Remain. So no surprises there. The rest are probably largely duplicates and foreigners.

    “I think mass charges of treason and sedition and a £10000 fine each…Failing that a mass roundup, strip them of UK citizenship, deport them to the EU–Germany will take them. Esp if we confiscate and sell everything they have and send the money to the German/EU treasury. They will effectively be the only refugees paying their way and will be helping their EU chums.”

    Eh? They are exercising their right to free speech. They are despicable fools, but no more than that so far.

  21. A rejection of austerity.

    A rejection of God.

    A rejection of __________. [Enter Libtard complaint about conservatives.]

  22. I wasn’t entirely serious about that one Theo–but they are not merely fools.

    Like all fools they are dangerous.

    The CM purge I am serious about and it needs starting a s a p.

  23. Surely if Remain had won with 52% and a 75% turn out, the same squawking would have happened?

    A win is a win, I guess, and I’m happy to see what happens. I’d like to be surprised.

    If Article 50 is triggered, are we going to have much say in the decisions of how we untangle? No, probably not, I don’t think we’re going to be in that room very much.

    And it’s going to take years whether or not Art 50 is done now or in 2 years. We’ll still effectively be In but we won’t have any influence.

    That’s how i’m reading it anyway.

  24. I despair of the ‘we’ve blown it now’ stories coming from the Daily Hate and even a little in the Torygraph.

    BiF is right – the negotiations were a farce, the EU side probably got ahead of themselves thinking that a regional Prime Minister had no clout. Cameron encouraged them by accepting the cards they dealt him. There was no need for that, if the UK can implode the EU the negotiations should have been done seriously.

    Cameron came back with negative value – he gave away our veto on closer eurozone integration for no gain, said ‘thank you sir, please give me another’ and then ran a dishonest campaign to stay in.

    The dirty tricks have all been played by remain in this referendum: partisan civil service, Dave’s leafleting, abuse of treasury figures, forcing senior government employees to serve propaganda (including Carney), international level intimidation, even a stupid scam trying to fool Brexiters into believing the referndum would run for two days.

    Now we have the emotional blackmail over how upsetting this is and attempts to replay the stale old race card (sorry, it’s worn out). And a petition which anyone in the world can sign up to, maybe the penny will drop when the petition count gets larger than the UK’s population.

    But what do we see this morning ‘Gove and Johnson ran a ‘mendacious’ campaign’? Seriously?

  25. I also think Peter Hitchins is right that a new political party would be a good idea.

    One that brings together the bulk of the Tories spat on and abandoned by Camoron and the working class small c conservatives.

    Socialism for most working class people only got traction because of a desire for a better life and fair treatment in the sense of decent treatment not CM equality of outcome bollocks. Idleness was despised by the working class universally once and still largely is. Working people in the UK never had any real commitment to or even interest in Marxian crap.

    The two groups have joined forces to some extent with UKIP and Brexit and it may be time for a new party to go beyond the aims of UKIP.

    Ultimately I hope to see an end of politics and states in favour of individualism. But vehicles will be needed to bring us closer to that blessed state.

    While still being aware that politics is a slimy game that attracts both weasels and the power-seeking scum of the Earth.

  26. Larry–yeah there would have been squawking–but -allegedly–2.5 million cunts demanding “Best out 3” like five year olds?

    Don’t think so.

    As for a sell-out–it is up to the rest of us to ensure that Blojo (–or whoever) knows that a sell-out will lead to his blonde mop floating down the Thames without the rest of him being underneath it.

  27. According to the Telegraph the petition has 39,600 signatures from the Vatican City, population 8,000.

    It’s a massive fraud.

  28. Since when the fuck has British democracy been about fraudulent online petitions anyway?oh, since Friday morning.

  29. Rob: looks like the petition numbers are down to 4Chan hackers. Well done to them- top trolling.

    Also, a naive point question: All this talk about “negotiating trade deals”. Surely the best deal is for us to say to the world: “we won’t put any obstacles, tariffs or taxes in your way. If you do to us, then so be it”. Other than cowardly politicians appealing to special interest groups, what would be the downside of this? Could all be sorted in a day.

  30. I object to the term ‘script-kiddies’ in this context, whilst PHP is indeed a scripting language, the author is older than the venerable Tim himself (it’s not easy getting five dead popes to sign a petition you know).

    The calls for a re-run are excellent as are the rumours that the House might not act on the current result.

    I hope they do re-run it.

    A resounding Exit vote followed by the de-selection of a majority of MPs would follow.

  31. Ecks

    Explain what you mean by “ZaNu and BluLab” please.

    And do it properly instead of repeating yourself like the old, lamented speak you’re branes, “Have Your Say” BBC comments boards generator. (see also ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyoulivethere)

    I want to know where you get your derivation from and how it’s applicable. Can you do that, mighty mouse?

    Also, so-called cultural marxism as a term is shitsticks. It means fuck all. It’s as lazy as Murphy’s neo-liberal as an insult. Does it make me a ‘CM [sic]’ to think you express some symptoms of extreme psychosis? Maybe you’ve been living in your cave too long, with your adapted zx81, each key having words like ‘scum’ and ‘purge the unis’ assigned.

    Marx has fuck all to do with anything that you say, Ecks.

  32. Arnald aka Lawrence aka Lawrence Aegerter esq. of the Crown Dependency of Guernsey.

    You have no say in this, no skin in the game. Guernsey is not a part of the EU, so do us the courtesy of fucking off.

    Rather than wasting Guernsey Housing Association’s time by blogging here there and everywhere when you should be busily working away as “Business Support” whatever that is.

    “Blue Skies” – accurately describes your head in the clouds attitude, maybe you would see them better if you took your head out of your arse.

  33. Murphy’s latest comment:
    “I know I was described as Jeremy Corbyn’s guru last year, but that was nonsense. I’ve never been anyone’s guru, least of all the Leader of the Opposition’s.”

    Such modesty, I thought, until I saw the headline:

    “Is a new Centre Party on the cards?”

    So he thinks a new political party might be on its way, and he’s already trying to get a job with it.

  34. Larri:

    1- As per your demands re definitions

    No-fuck off.

    2-“It’s as lazy as Murphy’s neo-liberal as an insult.”

    You really have fallen out with him haven’t you.

    3–“Direct from the ZX81 of Mr Ecks–Purge the Burger Bars of CM scum!!!”

  35. Ecksy

    “Like all fools they are dangerous.”

    Nah…

    IanB, for instance, is a harmless fool. And, also, many dangerous people are not fools.

  36. Smugery Theo smugery.

    You should never “no class” your opponents because regardless of appearences you never know how strong or dangerous someone is until they’ve done their worst to you and you have weathered the attack–or not.

  37. “I know I was described as Jeremy Corbyn’s guru last year, but that was nonsense. Jeremy looks in a bit of bother so I am going to throw him under the bus”.

    Murphy in a “centre party”? Centre of what?

  38. Galt

    Not this old blah again. I answered you last time you squeaked.

    *Sigh*. It’s weird, don’t you think, that I’m being challenged about my passport, yet there are a bucket load of ‘blokes in -‘ who could be Ronaldo McDonaldo for all anyone knows.

    I can only assume you are what’s known as ‘slow’.

    I agree, to an extent, that the whole construct of Crown Dependencies and Overseas Territories is a desperate clinging on of ‘when Great Britain was Great’. Burn those proxy laws and lets see what happens, you know, competing as jurisdictions in the market.

    So where do you live, Galled? Are you intelligent? Are you going to answer that you live somewhere in the UK? Or are you a degenerate liar that types shit becos u can?

    “We shouldn’t gloat, because it is not in our character to do so”

    Obviously you’re so up yourself that you didn’t understand the last time I answered your question.

    I’m English, dual French, everything I do is English, and I am probably more entitled to having a wider opinion than your stupid name impies.

  39. I’m English, dual French, everything I do is English, and I am probably more entitled to having a wider opinion than your stupid name impies.

    So not only are you not subject to the European Union, living outside it as you do in the Crown Dependency of Guernsey, but you also carry a French Passport which means that no matter how we decide you are covered anyway?

    …and you have the temerity to lecture us on what we should and / or should not be doing from an island off the coast of France that is protected by the British armed forces?

    So, not only do you have no skin in the game, by virtue of living outside the EU, but you have a get out of jail free card in the form of a French passport if everything turns to shit.

    Go fuck yourself with a cactus Lawrence.

  40. Fucking hell, Galt, you seem very insecure. Sorry if I’ve triggered a tip-over. Think of your safe place and breathe.

    So you managed to repeat yourself in your three gasping paragraphs and made yourself feel better with a

    I asked what “us” you are. You can’t answer. You have the temerity to question me, where I’ve repeated again and again how fucking English I am, how I voted, and my opinion about how the decision may affect me.

    The very fact that you think I have “a get out of jail free card” is a true head-shaker. Shall we play “How English Are You” Top-Trumps? And even then, you’re already criticising people who are worried about their future who want to hedge their bets.

    Will it all go to shit, Galt?

    What will you do if it does?

  41. Bloke in Costa Rica

    It exceeds my knowledge of differential topology to describe how far up his own arsehole is Richard Murphy. I certainly doubt very much that he is still three-dimensional.

  42. “So where do you live, Galled? Are you intelligent? Are you going to answer that you live somewhere in the UK? Or are you a degenerate liar that types shit becos u can?

    I’m English, dual French, everything I do is English, and I am probably more entitled to having a wider opinion than your stupid name impies.

    I asked what “us” you are. You can’t answer.

    You have the temerity to question me, where I’ve repeated again and again how fucking English I am, how I voted, and my opinion about how the decision may affect me.

    Shall we play “How English Are You” Top-Trumps?

    And even then, you’re already criticising people who are worried about their future who want to hedge their bets.

    Will it all go to shit, Galt?”

    I’m sorry but is there anyone in the UK–or even the EU– who, if the above was dropped thro’ their letterbox written in green ink on cheap A4–would not immediately call the nearest mentalist squad double-quick?

  43. It’s strange. I in Australia at the moment visiting my brother. The Aussie media is awash with the brexit story. And every Aussie I say hello to wants the story behind the vote. They seriously seem more interested than many people I was talking to before I left the UK. I reassure them that if Polish workers are no longer able to have free access to the UK then their bar jobs will once again be theirs.

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