The Great Jessica Valenti Subway Flasher Story Explained!

In The Guardian it was people masturbating at her all the time on the subway. In the NYT:

I grew up in Queens, taking the subway to junior high and high school. My commute became a time when it wasn’t unusual for a man to grope or flash me. It happened on at least a dozen occasions.

Six years of schooling, 200 days a year of school, there and back, 2,400 journeys and 12 instances. An instance of 0.5%. Or, if we consider that a journey on the subway in New York will involve passing by some hundreds of men in each and every journey, 0.0005% maybe?

This is not unusual?

18 thoughts on “The Great Jessica Valenti Subway Flasher Story Explained!”

  1. If I was assaulted 1 in 200 times I went out, can’t say I’d be pleased at that rate. What would be “acceptable” odds? Think I might take 1 in 5000 or so as something sufficiently rare that it is getting reasonable not to expend greater resources – or forfeit more civil liberties – to try reducing it further. But then I’m a weed of a beanpole, so my preferences may be on the “safer” side.

  2. Groping and flashing are two very different things. Groping is an assault, a very minor one usually.

    Flashing ought not even be a crime, given the vast number, size and quality of female flesh being ‘flashed’ at me every damn day.

  3. Reminds me of the video 10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Woman. Yes, there was lots of casual sexism, verbal abuse. But it was almost entirely from non-white men. The Guardian/NYT’s colour-blindness is wilful ignorance.

  4. A dozen times is still bad, but nothing like what she was claiming earlier. And I expect she’s greatly exaggerated the ‘dozen’ number anyway. Plus, it’s New York.

  5. Philip Scott Thomas

    If I were flashed 1 in 200 journeys I’d start to think I was pretty hot stuff. It would do wondrous things for my ego.

  6. But has she told the Guardian readers that the only reason she had to get the subway to school was that, rather than going to the local schools whose catchment area she lived in, she passed an entrance exam and went to a selective school on the other side of town?

    (Her Wikipedia entry says that she lived in Queens but went to Stuyvesant High School. That is on Manhattan, and “admission to Stuyvesant involves passing the Specialized High Schools Admissions Test”. There are high schools in Queens, but they probably have a lot of the sort of men that Andrew M pointed out tend not to have very feminist attitudes.)

  7. She is a CM bullshit machine.

    I wouldn’t trust her to tell me the time of day.

    Has she been paid twice for the same story? Could not the NYT have commented on the G-rag story without paying her for a second dose of CM clap?

  8. I’ve never once seen a flasher on the Underground in many thousands of journeys. New York must be abnormally infected with perverts.

  9. It’s an extract from her forthcoming bullshit book, that’s why it’s appeared in the Graun and the NYT

  10. Bloke in Costa Rica

    Jessica Valenti is a shrewish, misandrist termagant with a very big axe to grind. Her tales of wanking subway riders sound like the purest confabulation. Her diagnosis is off-beam, as well. Flashers and their ilk are sad, repellent little nebbishes down the masculine pecking order below feminist ‘allies’ and writers for Vox. They’re about as sexually threatening as a French bulldog humping your ankle.

  11. I don’t doubt there are nutters wanking on the subway. Doesn’t mean they were wanking at her. It’s always about you, isn’t it Jessica darling?

  12. I merely question the logistics. I don’t think I’ve ever been on an underground carriage with just me and one other person. Maybe in the outer reaches of zone 6 on a Sunday morning; but not on a weekday daytime hours train going to the city centre.

  13. I merely question the logistics. I don’t think I’ve ever been on an underground carriage with just me and one other person. Maybe in the outer reaches of zone 6 on a Sunday morning; but not on a weekday daytime hours train going to the city centre.

    Which is why anyone who has spent time in NYC would instantly recognize Valenti’s tale to be pure fantasy. Not that her intended audience cares, mind you…

  14. One per 200 journeys. If there are 200 people on a train, then one of them will get flashed during each train journey.

    They need more cops on their trains.

  15. So Much For Subtlety

    It is rare that the subway would be empty going either to or from school – 8 am or 3 to 5 pm? I don’t see it.

    But notice her formulation – expose or grope. The grope is the interesting word. What is a grope? I wouldn’t be surprised if a mentally fragile quasi-hysteric saw every innocent bump or knock as a bump’n’grind.

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