12 thoughts on “They never did matey, they never did”
Rob
That’s right, they never did. The Proggie internationalists have finally deigned to notice.
Too late.
Andrew M
No; but it was Blair’s dragging of the party away from Labour’s traditional voters that paradoxically enabled it to run the country for thirteen years. Whether that was down to New Labour’s progressivism, or just its economic rationality, we can’t be sure.
Tel
The northern Thatcher-hating ex-miners are finally starting to wake up to the fact that modern Labour loathes them and everything they believe in.
Or perhaps they did notice that years ago, but just couldn’t bring themselves to not vote for Labour, because that was what you did as a member of the northern working-class.
Rob
It’s been a 40 or 45 year process. It started in the early 70s when local party associations started being taken over by Proggies, university or poly-educated, usually in places like London.
Once they controlled the local party they controlled selection of the local MP. Combined with their ideological mates dominating the media it was easy to smother the traditional Labour values, which they fucking despise.
One snag – they need those traditional Labour voters to survive.
Awkward.
Anon
“No; but it was Blair’s dragging of the party away from Labour’s traditional voters that paradoxically enabled it to run the country for thirteen years. ”
Economically, yes. But their proggy attitudes, such as anti-patriotism, pro-immigration, calling everyone a racist weren’t popular outside London/upper class circles.
One of the problems with democracy is that it’s hard to work out what bits people like. The Graun have constantly bought the idea that “social justice” won it for Blair, but really, it was better schools and hospitals.
>It started in the early 70s when local party associations started being taken over by Proggies, university or poly-educated
Yeah, Corbyn being one of them.
john the bridge
Biggest irony in British politics. So called “Traditional Labour voters”, ie. “the workers”, have always espoused an essentially Tory view, albeit unknowingly or unwillingly. Capitalist, xenophobic, sexist. Nothing wrong in any of that.
Trouble is, the last thing a “Traditional Labour voter” actually wants is Socialism or any of the other nonsense but, of course the dumb bastards couldn’t actually bring themselves to vote for the blue lot. Not when their party’s called LABOUR! Clever branding.
Flatcap Army
I can’t track down the original quote but it may have been Michael Bywater who wrote “Almost since its inception the Labour Party has been run on behalf of The Workers by Toffs, who have never met The Workers and probably wouldn’t like them much if they did”
John miller
The Big Dick’s telephone must be red hot this morning as he telephones every one from Corby, McDonnell, Eagle and Burnham telling them that he’s always been a staunch admirer of their policies.
Ironman
John Miller
And he is VERY concerned about immigration.
Rob
Richard Murphy is at war with Eastasia. Richard Murphy has always been at war with Eastasia.
That’s right, they never did. The Proggie internationalists have finally deigned to notice.
Too late.
No; but it was Blair’s dragging of the party away from Labour’s traditional voters that paradoxically enabled it to run the country for thirteen years. Whether that was down to New Labour’s progressivism, or just its economic rationality, we can’t be sure.
The northern Thatcher-hating ex-miners are finally starting to wake up to the fact that modern Labour loathes them and everything they believe in.
Or perhaps they did notice that years ago, but just couldn’t bring themselves to not vote for Labour, because that was what you did as a member of the northern working-class.
It’s been a 40 or 45 year process. It started in the early 70s when local party associations started being taken over by Proggies, university or poly-educated, usually in places like London.
Once they controlled the local party they controlled selection of the local MP. Combined with their ideological mates dominating the media it was easy to smother the traditional Labour values, which they fucking despise.
One snag – they need those traditional Labour voters to survive.
Awkward.
“No; but it was Blair’s dragging of the party away from Labour’s traditional voters that paradoxically enabled it to run the country for thirteen years. ”
Economically, yes. But their proggy attitudes, such as anti-patriotism, pro-immigration, calling everyone a racist weren’t popular outside London/upper class circles.
One of the problems with democracy is that it’s hard to work out what bits people like. The Graun have constantly bought the idea that “social justice” won it for Blair, but really, it was better schools and hospitals.
Bigots, the lot of them.
>It started in the early 70s when local party associations started being taken over by Proggies, university or poly-educated
Yeah, Corbyn being one of them.
Biggest irony in British politics. So called “Traditional Labour voters”, ie. “the workers”, have always espoused an essentially Tory view, albeit unknowingly or unwillingly. Capitalist, xenophobic, sexist. Nothing wrong in any of that.
Trouble is, the last thing a “Traditional Labour voter” actually wants is Socialism or any of the other nonsense but, of course the dumb bastards couldn’t actually bring themselves to vote for the blue lot. Not when their party’s called LABOUR! Clever branding.
I can’t track down the original quote but it may have been Michael Bywater who wrote “Almost since its inception the Labour Party has been run on behalf of The Workers by Toffs, who have never met The Workers and probably wouldn’t like them much if they did”
The Big Dick’s telephone must be red hot this morning as he telephones every one from Corby, McDonnell, Eagle and Burnham telling them that he’s always been a staunch admirer of their policies.
John Miller
And he is VERY concerned about immigration.
Richard Murphy is at war with Eastasia. Richard Murphy has always been at war with Eastasia.