Timmy is elsewhere

In Prague, up by the Hradcarny. Frances Coppolla and I are about to take part in a debate. This is part of the mumble mumble summit of summat. We are arguing that Greece should leave the euro.

My debate speech of “Fuck Yes” is bound to wow them.

Slightly unfortunately the only known reader of this blog who resides in Prague died a few months back. So, that’s an evening checking out the local blues bars (Stan the Man being a stalwart of them) which won’t happen.

23 thoughts on “Timmy is elsewhere”

  1. I was shocked to find recently that my old mate from the early 70s, Stan Wolarz, had died last year . . . so you won’t even have music from that source. Have to console yourself with Beefheart MP3s

  2. Bloke in Austria for a Bit

    Pish, happen to be in Vienna this week, but meetings bloody meetings…

    Even managed to cock_up my dates so that I miss Veronique Gens singing at the Staatsoper next week. Double-pish.

  3. Bloke in Germany

    Yeah, they should leave so the government can have a second way of running out of other people’s money.

  4. Just don’t mention immigration, Tim: Frances will then become completely irrational.

  5. Bloke in Germany

    Tim, like BiG, and a lot of other blokes, is an immigrant.

    Oops sorry, Brits in forrin are merely expats”, not immigrants.

  6. Talking of Timmy elsewhere, the Guardian article on prostitution today, penned by Kat Banyard quotes from a Tim Worstall piece from 2014.
    Some women have long memories. You don’t normally have to go back that far to find something quotable to disagree with

  7. Ironman,

    Yes, indeed Tim and I were the “get the hell out of the Euro” team. I discovered in conversation this evening that my opposition to the Euro is of even longer standing than Tim’s, since he admits to opposing it from the mid 1990s, whereas I fell out with my macro lecturer about the supposed benefits of a single European currency in 1991. Cost me a distinction.

  8. BiG

    Most (if not all) EU forrin I know in the UK are ex-pats. Don’t worry about it (I know you know the answer really)..;)

  9. So Much For Subtlety

    Bloke in Germany – “Tim, like BiG, and a lot of other blokes, is an immigrant. Oops sorry, Brits in forrin are merely expats”, not immigrants.”

    It depends on the Brit. A relative of mine reluctantly took a job in the UAE because his boss begged him. He could not wait to get out of there. He was not an immigrant. He was an ex-pat. I have no idea what TW thinks about being in Portugal but it does not follow he is an immigrant. Even if it did, the fact that the Portuguese want to ruin their country is no reason for us to do so as well.

    Theobald Dillon was a Jacobite who had to flee the UK and served in the French Army. Not an immigrant. He wanted to come home. His grandson Henry Dillon also served the King of France (in the family regiment of course). As did his son Arthur who was executed for being loyal to the King. He was the first to marry a French woman. However his daughter, Henriette-Lucy, Marquise de La Tour du Pin Gouvernet, better known as Madame La Tour du Pin, was definitely French. They had immigrated by that point.

    I dimly remember you saying how happy you were with the EU because it enabled you to shake off the narrow provincialism of being British. No doubt the distinction will be lost on you.

  10. I imagine, Frances / Tim, it was all going swimmingly until you suggested they should ALL get out of the euro.

    Or am I dissing Mitteleuropa?

  11. So Much For Subtlety

    Ironman – “Is Frances arguing for the same.proposition, Greece leaving the Euro?”

    But how will their twelve year old girls receive all that cultural enrichment she wishes on us – and you defend?

  12. SMFS if being British is the only thing you have going for you, then you probably have a problem.

  13. So Much For Subtlety

    Diogenes – “if being British is the only thing you have going for you, then you probably have a problem.”

    That is true. On the other hand a nation whose elites are openly contemptuous of their own ethnicity and country will not long survive. Especially when they are surrounded by people who actively hate them for that nationality.

    We need rulers who like Britain. It is not unreasonable to ask for that little.

  14. SMfS
    That would be the “good old days” before my time.

    Plus Merkel hates Krauts, Barouch hates Yanks and I doubt Hollande is over fond of Frogs.

    That’s the thing about socialists, they all hate people.

  15. BIF

    We were very convincing. Even on the reasons why everyone should leave the Euro. In a poll after the first round speeches, we had 44% audience support and the other side 56%. Considering the “home bias” of the audience, that’s pretty good.

  16. Frances,
    It does sound pretty good given the terrain, however wouldn’t that depend on the audience support figures before the first round speeches?

  17. Jack C,

    Sadly there was no pre-speeches poll. But an audience made up of EU apparatchiks and apologists for European integration would surely be in favour not only of the Euro, but of Greece remaining in it.

  18. I see Frances Coppola’s 1991 opposition to fixed/single currencies and raise her 1989.

    As a callow teenage youth studying economics A level from 1987-89 at the time of the Alan Walters/Mrs T In/Out of the ERM debate even I could see that fixed exchange rates between different countries with vastly differing economies and socio-political structure could only end in catastrophe.

  19. Jim,
    It was worse than that. The ERM was both an attempt at having fixed and floating exchange rates at the same time.

    A very nice trick indeed, though the great flaw with impossible things is that they’re impossible.

    There were two very important benefits though:

    1) It allowed Britain a break from being the miserable European party-pooper for a while (I really do think this was a factor)

    2) It demonstrated, in a reversible and relatively low cost manner, what the dangers of a single currency were in real life, and what the genuine requirements were.

    Without the ERM, Europe may have rushed in to Currency Union without having the proper foundations in place. No experience is wasted as they say. Imagine what might have happened to Southern Europe?

  20. “It demonstrated, in a reversible and relatively low cost manner, what the dangers of a single currency were in real life”

    I think people who lost their jobs and houses in the far worse than necessary recession of 1990-92 might care to differ on the ‘relatively low cost’ aspect.

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