Well, no Mr. Tusk, that’s not what is being said at all

The leave campaign contains a very clear message: “Let us leave, nothing will change, everything will stay as before”.

No, that’s not what we’re saying at all.

Rather, we will be free of you and thus things will change for the better.

13 thoughts on “Well, no Mr. Tusk, that’s not what is being said at all”

  1. But that’s not on the table, is it? It’s brilliant politics by the politicians in Brussels: they’ve managed to distract us with a referendum where both choices are the same, so no-one’s talking about reforming the EU.

  2. The Inimitable Steve

    DAMN YOU EURO-GENIUSES, YOU’VE TRICKED US AGAIN!

    If only someone had thought to reform the EU over the past 40-odd years that we’ve been members.

  3. The Meissen Bison

    We already know this. Tusk has told us that Brexit means the end of Western Political Civilisation, whatever that is.

    It may be a bit like singing “Five EU presidents” to the tune of “Ten Green Bottles”.

  4. “Brexit means the end of Western Political Civilisation”

    If they really believed that then they ought to have been bending over backwards to meet Dave’s very minor requests for change.

  5. The Inimitable Steve

    Tusk has told us that Brexit means the end of Western Political Civilisation

    There wouldn’t have been a Shakespeare, Goethe, Mozart, Erasmus, Roman Catholic Church, Luther, Magna Carta, Industrial Revolution, Charlemagne, Sir Isaac Newton, or Carl Benz if not for the European Commission, bigots!

  6. So Much For Subtlety

    The Inimitable Steve – “There wouldn’t have been a Shakespeare, Goethe, Mozart, Erasmus, Roman Catholic Church, Luther, Magna Carta, Industrial Revolution, Charlemagne, Sir Isaac Newton, or Carl Benz if not for the European Commission, bigots!”

    You have to admit that Charlemagne spent a lot of time working on European integration. With a lot more moral integrity than the European Commission. Sure Charlemagne probably poisoned his brother, forced a son to become a monk, slaughtered the Saxons and deposed governments he disapproved of. But at least he is not Tusk.

  7. Surely it’s remain saying stay in, nothing will change- whilst proposing EU wide taxation, a European army and god knows how many other changes.

  8. Meanwhile – it looks like the handbags have been out on TRUK….

    ‘The number of comments on the blog is very high right now. I read them all. Apart from a few batches of comments from regular trolls everything is getting on because the quality of comment is high. I appreciate test: it makes my time spent moderating worthwhile.

    However, I also realise sentiment is high between those who may otherwise agree with each other. Can we keep things calm, please? This debate has a long way to go as yet and I would like to keep valuable opinion on the site if possible.”

  9. TIS>

    There was a definite swelling of support for major, root-and-branch, British-led reform of the EU prior to this referendum. UKIP had a lot to do with it. The timing is not a coincidence.

  10. What is worrying me is the English fan behaviour at the Euros. I had thought that a good English performance on the field would stimulate some patriotic feeling, and increase the Leave vote. But many people are going to be looking at the English thugs disgracing themselves over there and think ‘You know, I’d even prefer to be Italian than be part of the same country as these assholes’.

  11. Every since Charlamagne died France and Germany have been fighting each other. The European Project was to chain France and Germany together so tightly that they wouldn’t fight any more. That doesn’t need Britain to be chained to them, and the FrancoGerman chaining was supposed to create an environment where Britain /didn’t/ get dragged into continental affairs and clout the squabbling kids around the head.

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