Well, yes, I suppose so

I phoned my Uncle Johnny (WWII Parachute Regiment) last night to wish him a happy 90th birthday. He was putting on his overcoat and heading into the rain to his polling station in West Yorkshire. I asked which way he was planning to vote.

“When I was 20 I dropped into France to stop the Germans taking over my country,” he replied, “so I thought I’d better have another go at stopping them now.”

We have indeed been asked before whether we’d like our country to be run by a fat German socialist. Herr Schultz.

55 thoughts on “Well, yes, I suppose so”

  1. If yesterday was Uncle Johnny’s 90th birthday he was dropped in France in 1946. Germans had pretty much been stopped by then.

  2. Sceptic
    He’s 90: he could simply have got his remembered age wrong, and he was in fact 18 or 19.

  3. As ever, Shakespeare has the quote for whingers like LE:

    Then give me leave, for losers will have leave
    To ease their stomachs with their bitter tongues.

  4. BIW – nah mate, we’ve gone beyond Shakespeare – the Aliens movie is the place to go for quotes. Re the EU

    “I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”

    LE is proving to be a particularly dismal member of the dismal “science”.

  5. Lus

    No! The British Left has done this to itself; ‘we’ haven’t done anything. When Labour voters up and down the country voiced their worries.about immigration, rising house prices and the absence of any discernable pay rise they were called “bigot”. And when the time came, Labour could not get its vote out.

  6. Its fucking beautiful. The ‘cognoscenti’ Left are overwhelmingly pro-EU. They blame bigotry and racism for losing. Yet…their own side voted to leave.

    The final cherry was Wales voting Leave, and overwhelmingly in the old Labour heartlands. So they can’t even blame it on an English/Others thing.

    So they are stuck. They want to shout “RACISTS!” but they can’t. The dissonance must be quite something. Some have even resorted to taking an interest in the Stock Exchange for perhaps the first time in their lives.

  7. Just a little tale from my Facebook feed this morning:

    Two mothere exchanged stories to prove the outcome is just so unfair. Their two daughters both just.completed A levels, had.got the news.independantly at Glastonbury apparently. Both were horrified. This horror is of course the only thing thaatters cos it’s them.that has to live with this you see.

    Anyway, both mothers were very proud of their daughters and all their daughters’ peers, who all voted Remain. “They had a good politics teacher” they opined. “What a pity the vote wasn’t reduced to 16-year-olds like the Scottish referendum.

    It’s funny, I must be very unusual because I don’t think I have anything to learn at all from 18-year-old scroats.

  8. > by a fat German socialist

    I thought Hitler was quite slim. Or were you thinking of Herr Kohl?

  9. we did this to ourselves because of delusional bullshit like this.

    Just like all those “my four year old daughter said ‘Daddy, vote Remain for my future” bollocks we heard ad nauseum for the past month.

  10. There’s this twat who runs Cobra beer on Sky News ranting on about what a terrible decision this is, trying to re-run the referendum. It’s over mate.

    He says he never had to spend any time with EU laws and regulations. It was all the British laws that were the problem, he says. Obviously unaware that EU law comes to us through our own Parliament.

    He’s also saying that it’s a terrible thing for young people, who voted to Remain, who have been denied their future. So what about someone who’s, say, 45? They have 40-50 years of life yet? Don’t they get a say in their future too? Even most retirees will have decades left. Are they to be screwed over by young people? I shudder to think of the nonsense I believed when I was 20. I thank God there were all these ‘old’ people voting along with me in those days who could cancel out my stupidity.

  11. I hope Sadiq Khan realises that in the event of a siege, London will last about six hours, before he goes ahead and declares secession.

  12. Tel-

    All these people using the “young people” argument forget that everyone was young once and it is generally observed that young idealists become old pragmatists, that “you turn into your parents” thing.

  13. The young have been saved from the shit the EU would have heaped on them. I doubt they would have to have suffered all their lives because the fucking organisation would not have lasted that long. But it would have done a huge amount of damage before it went.

    We need to bring the boom down on the scum of the left. It is our inattention and silence that has allowed them to produce a generation of CM -infected young turds. We need to make sure that the left will have no brainwashing power of the next generation and that the present young whiners remain a lost generation of leftist pukes whose bullshit is neutralised. Time and the harsh lessons of life will do some of it of course but getting the peddlers of socialist crap off the taxpayers tit is an essential next step.

    Zorro: Your note of rising hysteria is making you look foolish.

  14. Damn, I was just going to create a HMG petition to give Nigel a K and several people have beaten me to it.

    I was going to suggest Dave’s resignation honours list would be an ideal time, too!

  15. Zorro: Your note of rising hysteria is making you look foolish.

    I found it quite instructive that, on another thread, Arnald accepted the result with grace and magnanimity; yet it is the usually-coherent LE that is stamping his little feet and scweaming and scweaming.

  16. “He’s also saying that it’s a terrible thing for young people, who voted to Remain, who have been denied their future.”

    They have been denied “a” future. They’ve been given a better one. They are too young, ignorant and brainwashed to understand.

  17. Cameron and the EU have only themselves to blame for this; if the EU were not so arrogant, immovable, and dismissive of all change, and if Call-me-Dave had not run such a ridiculously negative campaign full of absurd and preposterous scare stories, we might be looking at a very different result.

  18. Cameron’s decision to hold a referendum is up there with Louis Napoleon’s declaration of war on Prussia in 1870 for the most ruinous and unnecessary decision ever taken.

    Given that Cameron called it to stop a couple of MPs defecting to UKIP. It has resulted in the end of his Premiership.

  19. We’ve indicated that we would like to not be ruled by foreign clueless unelected bastards.

    We’ll still be ruled by clueless bastards, but they’ll be our clueless bastards.

  20. ‘I name today “Freedom Friday”’

    I liked Farage’s idea that there should be a public holiday every 24th of June called ‘Independence Day’. I don’t suppose the Establishment will ever let that happen, not in a million years, but I liked it.

  21. Rob: “So they are stuck. They want to shout “RACISTS!” but they can’t. The dissonance must be quite something. Some have even resorted to taking an interest in the Stock Exchange for perhaps the first time in their lives.”

    Oh, they will. They’ll carry on shouting “RACISTS!” till the end of time. I think leftists are immune to cognitive dissonance.

  22. “Given that Cameron called it to stop a couple of MPs defecting to UKIP. It has resulted in the end of his Premiership.”

    But it didn’t have to result in the end of his Premiership, Rob. Like Harold Wilson, Cameron could have remained above the fray and said he wanted the electorate’s advice. Quietly, he could have sent Osborne to do the dirty work. He could have appeared to view the matter with professional detachment, thanked the electorate for their advice, implemented its decision and still be PM. But his arrogance – and an amateurish lack of political sophistication – got the better of him.

  23. Cameron expected to win, especially after the Scottish Referendum.

    He was clearly so sure of winning that he and his mates at the EU didn’t even bother sorting out an 11th hour trump card concession. Staggering incompetence. Or more accurately, hubris.

  24. I’ve seen neither hide nor hair of Osborne since yesterday evening.

    Where is he? Locked away working on an emergency Budget?

  25. I hope that 24/6/2016(hopefully I have the right date format) is not considered Independence Day. There is simply too much British history for the label to make sense. I suggest calling it Fuck Off You Fucking Authoritarian Wankers Day(FOYFAW Day).

    Note: I didn’t even try to make the acronym pronounceable.

  26. “We’ll still be ruled by clueless bastards, but they’ll be our clueless bastards”

    I’ve seen many comments bemoaning the fact that parliament and the civil service could be occupied for years untangling us from the EU.

    Good – means they won’t have time to be screwing around with anything else.

  27. “Or more accurately, hubris.”

    This.

    Plus, of course, being professional politicians with zero contact, knowledge or feel for real people they believed the polls. That’s like driving while blindfolded and taking instruction from other people, also blindfolded.

  28. “How long does this giddiness take to wear off, guys?”

    The only day I can honestly say Twitter is great. A succession of wankers shooting themselves gracelessly in the foot for my enjoyment. They are incapable of learning.

  29. @Ironman

    “When Labour voters up and down the country voiced their worries.about immigration, rising house prices and the absence of any discernable pay rise they were called “bigot”.”

    Fuck me – you utter, hypocritical cunt. You have been doing precisely this to people on this blog for years, you little shit. Fuck off, you do not get to criticise immigration now. I’m tempted to find out where you live, buy the house next door and let it to a dozen ‘refugees’ so they can shit in the garden, play music at 3am and occasionally rape your wife. You. Fucking. Cunt.

  30. @Ironman, et al.

    How are you going to sell a free trade agreement with anyone to the protectionist working class?

  31. Ian B,

    “He was clearly so sure of winning that he and his mates at the EU didn’t even bother sorting out an 11th hour trump card concession. Staggering incompetence. Or more accurately, hubris.”

    They should have won this easily.

    Look, we didn’t need to get to this point at all. For over a decade, the politicians of both colours have ignored the public about the EU and immigration. Letting in huge numbers of non-EU migrants, ignoring the problem, calling people racists who didn’t want them, signing Lisbon without a referendum, making a “cast iron” promise and then not delivering, promising action and not delivering, promising tough renegotiation, getting nothing but still backing it, and finally, making the most ludicrous claims about what exit would do.

  32. CJ Nerd. I’ve been told directly by somebody who works in HM Treasury in Whitehall that the place has gone nuts. I asked ‘doing what’? And the answer came back ‘Scottish Border’. No idea how accurate that is but perhaps the runes have been read for at least Scotland splits (so possibly they know about an incoming Scots referendum 2) and possibly also joins the EU.

  33. Watching a video by Toby Young last week I found out the ‘negotiation’ Cameron tried didn’t just yield nothing like I thought but he gave away a valuable chip to get nothing.

    Cameron agreed to drop our veto on Euro zone integration to get the nothing he came back with, so that they could have unified into a tight club without us getting any safeguards.

    Just how much longer could they think we’d be saying ‘Ooh! give me another!’

  34. Interested

    Thank you for following me so very closely
    I regard you as a fan. A crazed fan who should be locked up obviously, but a fan nonetheless.

  35. BinG

    We Conservatives som’t have to. Those votes are for Labour and Ukip to squabble over now; we are sorted thank you.

    P.S. I believe that analysis pleases you too!

  36. “It means that anyone coming to the UK has to commit to this programme. And learn English and have or learn a skill we need, and do it where that work is required in exchange for the opportunity given.” Richard Murphy, 24 June 2016.

    So you and your friends are listening are you? You do thay, you might only hear silence though. Because when people wanted you to listen, you refused. Now it’s too late, too too late.

  37. “It means that anyone coming to the UK has to commit to this programme. And learn English and have or learn a skill we need, and do it where that work is required in exchange for the opportunity given.” Richard Murphy, 24 June 2016.

    Murphy would have described anyone saying that last week as a far-right bigot. He is truly shameless.

  38. Bloke in North Dorset

    “GlenDorran
    “We’ll still be ruled by clueless bastards, but they’ll be our clueless bastards”

    I’ve seen many comments bemoaning the fact that parliament and the civil service could be occupied for years untangling us from the EU.

    Good – means they won’t have time to be screwing around with anything else.”

    Please report immediately for a remedial class in Parkinson’s Law.

    This is a perfect excuse to recruit more civil servants to manage the leaving process. At the end of which we will have the existing civil servants, the new civil servants and the returning from EU duties civil servants, all requiring gold plated pensions* and redundancy payments.

    *to be fair I know the civil servant who set up their new pension scheme and new civil servants don’t get the gold plated one.

  39. “I’ve seen neither hide nor hair of Osborne since yesterday evening.
    Where is he? Locked away working on an emergency Budget?”

    Same place he always hides away when the heat is on. If only those journalists who chased Sarah Palin everywhere she went could turn their mind to finding Osborne. (Or Brown. Or Blair. Or Obama. Etc.)

  40. My little liberty-loving American heart–which is currently residing in the UK (I married a US/UK dual citizen)–is filled with delight over this. I normally stay out of UK politics, and I didn’t talk about it to any of my friends here, because I don’t feel like it’s my place, really, despite being a permanent legal resident and taxpayer (if only our President had felt the same)…but the idea of allowing another country to dictate how you should run yours has always bothered me, especially when the ones doing the dictating are the likes of Merkel and her gang of West-hating goons who think it’s racist to want to walk down a public street without facing sexual assault from people whose culture views women as chattel, or think it’s wrong to feel as though your own government should serve you and not the other way around.

    I’m so, so happy that my second homeland has taken a stand for freedom and independence, and the right to rule one’s own roost (so to speak)!

    I sincerely hope I’m not upsetting anyone by speaking up here; I’m just very excited at this giant leap forward for liberty, and very glad that I was here to see it. Here’s hoping the citizens of other countries follow your brave example, and start putting the control back where it belongs–with the people.

  41. I sincerely hope I’m not upsetting anyone by speaking up here; I’m just very excited at this giant leap forward for liberty, and very glad that I was here to see it.

    I don’t think you’ll upset anyone here by speaking up. This place tends to be a welcome haven of free speech.

    Here’s hoping the citizens of other countries follow your brave example, and start putting the control back where it belongs–with the people.

    Indeed.

  42. Thanks, Bloke in Wales! I’m just always hesitant to speak up in a new place, especially on a subject like this; I don’t want to seem like I’m overstepping.

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