I am enjoying Indian English

The more the rant media drives itself to orchestrated frenzy over Kashmir

“Rant media” describes just so much of that media landscape, doesn’t it?

Dubai-Kozhikode flight makes emergency landing in Mumbai due to ruckus by passenger

“Ruckus”, lovely word.

And here’s a lovely example of that rant media:

It clearly seems that the lobbies at the international level are working to make sure that the opinion in the US becomes so much gripped with the fear of “Radical Islam” that Trump’s arguments of hate and the need to exterminate this hate through “destruction” of the very “roots” of Islamic radicalism start echoing in the heart of every American.

ISIS kills people to get Trump elected.

Yeeeees…..so, how’s your lithium dosage?

20 thoughts on “I am enjoying Indian English”

  1. > ISIS kills people to get Trump elected.

    We’ll hear that a lot more as the election approaches and the killing spree continues. Not sure what excuse they’ll use when the killings continue beyond the election.

  2. So ISIS wants Trump –supposedly the warmonger and harbinger of atomic holocaust–elected why exactly?

    Because he is a surrender monkey compared to Killery?

    They can’t both be true you stupid leftist cunts– newspeak or not.

  3. I was in an Indian ( as in, in India ) household some years back eating a meal and surrounded by pickles, relishes and sauces.

    The host asked me “Are you relishing this preparation?” I paused for a moment, unsure of how to interpret “relishing” in this context, and managed to outthink myself and say “Thank you, I already have some”

    Cue rather confused host wondering why the foreigner wasn’t enjoying the food and replying to a question with nonsense.

  4. @Ecks,

    Because ISIS want to bring about the Islamic equivalent of the second coming (I forget what it is).

    It’s really hard to get Indians to write in good standard English.Much harder, paradoxically, than people who do not have any form of English as a native language. I think having their own vernacular inhibits rather than helps.

    Much of it would have sounded perfectly normal to an English person in the 1850s so is stilted today. The grammar is massively influenced by Hindi, and it is reinforced by daily use on a social basis. That’s probably the biggest barrier.

  5. The Meissen Bison

    BiG: It’s really hard to get Indians to write in good standard English.

    The problem with this is in thinking that there is such a thing as “good standard English” in the first place. Language evolves and when used by communities separated by large distances and subject to different influences will naturally diverge.

    I don’t know how long you have been iG, BiG, but the German of the GDR was significantly different from that in the FRG with none of the anglicisms which the West had incorporated.

    When I lived in South Asia, I was puzzled at first by the court reports in the papers that informed that the criminal had been sentenced to x years of R.I.

    This seemed a very enlightened (almost Gilbertian) form of punishment until a colleague explained that the initials stood for rigorous imprisonment.

  6. Ruckus isn’t a commonly used word across the pond obviously. In my house it is the name of the vermin eradication specialist.

  7. Problem is, UK’s situated on the geographic & cultural perimeter of the English speaking world. Much as Spain is of the Hispanic. The focus is probably round the other side of the planet, somewhere.
    About time some of the pendants came to terms with this.

  8. Bloke in Costa Rica

    The idea of false-flag operations is a natural fit for socialists, given as they are to explain the empty shelves and full graves that always accompany one of their forays as being due to “wreckers” and “saboteurs”. It’s an intrinsically conspiracy-minded political faith.

  9. bis,

    Guesstimating based on approximate populations it looks like Wake Island is the land closest to the geographic center of the English speaking population. At least the Spanish center is still in the adjoining ocean.

  10. @tmb, spoken German has always been highly regional, long before the DDR and is so to this day. But there has been a highly standardised written German for the best part of 200 years. Go to Switzerland if you want challenging German dialects but you can still read everything.

    Those standardised languages of course evolve. The written language should be comprehensible to as many people as possible today. In 400 years you might need a translation as we would find desirable with the king James bible or Shakespeare. Well let the future worry about that.

  11. The Meissen Bison

    BiG: agreed re spoken German being regional in terms of vocab as well as pronunciation – the various words for e.g. bread rolls or carrots testify to this and there is no standard Hochdeutsch either. Some are entirely fixed geographically so a shandy is Alsterwasser in Hamburg (on account of the Alster being there) and a Radler in Austria.

    The point about the DDR is that the language there hadn’t developed to incorporate all the anglo bits and there was scarcely any Russian influence so in that sense it was ‘purer’ than in the BRD.

    The written language is broadly comprehensible across the piece for English though some constructions may strike a UK speaker as archaisms or corruptions. By the same token, it’s not hard to learn that boot, trunk and dickie can be interchangeable depending on where the speaker is standing.

    BiS: UK’s situated on the geographic & cultural perimeter of the English speaking world.


  12. @TMB
    Why? Do you think the UK is the centre of it? English is a global language. You don’t have a patent on it.

  13. Language does indeed evolve rapidly. If we assume that 5000 commonly known french words have entered English and nearly all between 1066 and 1500, that’s about a dozen words a year that the entire population were taking in – and that in the days without mass media ! Each month, a new word becomes used by all of us!

    And who started stopping saying ‘thee’, ‘thou’, ‘ye’, ‘thy’, ‘thine’ etc and why did it catch on?

  14. Go to Switzerland if you want challenging German dialects but you can still read everything.

    Except that they don’t use the ß. The heathens.

  15. “Apex” has an interesting usage in India. It’s used where the US and UK would use “summit” as in a meeting of heads of state; I think I’ve seen some Indian media outlets use the word “meet” to replace “meeting” too.

    I think I’ve heard a phrase like “apex clash” (or was it “summit clash”?) for the final of a knockout tournament.

  16. The Meissen Bison

    BiS: Why? Do you think the UK is the centre of it? English is a global language. You don’t have a patent on it.

    I absolutely agree with you that it’s not up to English speakers in the UK to set some kind of universal standard. indeed that was my contention when responding to BiG.

    I couldn’t quite follow your previous point that the UK is on the geographic periphery or perimeter of the English speaking world since you can travel south, east or west and find English as the official language or lingua franca. North too, if you count the blue-painted people in North Britain.

  17. I remember reading the Times of India when I was on holiday there, some years ago. My favourite line talked about how “the police nabbed the miscreant”…

    I found it all rather charming.


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