Sure, plagiarism is a big and important problem

Yes, plagiarism is a big deal: Melania Trump’s stolen words show how cynical Trump’s campaign is
The would-be First Lady and her husband’s campaign is counting on America not caring about her speech and ethics

That’s why Joe Biden should not be VP. He plagiarised Neil Kinnock’s speeches.

Or it is different if you’re a professional Democrat?

29 thoughts on “Sure, plagiarism is a big and important problem”

  1. Bob Dole’s wife, Elizabeth, used ‘My word is my bond’ at the 1996 Convention. Send the squad car round for Michelle?

  2. The Meissen Bison

    They are not so much stolen words as recycled soundbites and they mean nothing, irrespective of the mouth from which they emanate.

    These people all delve in the same linguistic dressing-up box but share the same scaly, scrofulous intentions.

  3. Since the words plagiarised were all boilerplate anyway, I would think you could find dozens of examples of them having been used before. Probably before Michelle.
    That anyone is making a fuss about this indicates that they have nothing substantive to complain about.

  4. I am amazed this is a news story. People who whine about the trivialisation of politics are getting the vapours over what the wife of a candidate said. The BBC had it on its front page for most of yesterday. It’s bizarre and incredible.

    It’s a professional political class outbreak of mass hysteria. Ironic given that Trump’s entire campaign is based on presenting himself as NOT part of that.

    No sensible person in America is going to give a shit about this story.

  5. Somebody has identified a book from which, allegedly, Mrs Obama’s speech was culled. Why you’d need a book when it’s all just a heap of cliches, God only knows.

    Anyway, in a very real sense both speeches were plagiarised, since the orator (ho, ho) didn’t write them.

    So: they just plagiarise a speechwriter’s plagiarised hackneyed phrases, plagiarised from a book whose author, for all I know, might have plagiarised them from an earlier assembly of uplifting tosh, which assembly was … eventually you’ll find that they’re from the Ancient Greek.

  6. “So: they just plagiarise a speechwriter’s plagiarised hackneyed phrases, plagiarised from a book whose author, for all I know, might have plagiarised them from an earlier assembly of uplifting tosh, which assembly was … eventually you’ll find that they’re from the Ancient Greek.”

    Spot on

  7. The Inimitable Steve

    There is a story here, but it’s not about the wife of a politician simpering a few sentences that sound similar to what another political wife said previously.

    Nobody actually cares about prospective First Lady speeches.

    The story is about female journalism. Melania Trump is famously easy to look at. The Salon authoress, like the rest of the media mean girls dogpiling on this, is not.

    The one thing feminists hate more than men is attractive women.

  8. Rob,

    It’s basically news nerd stuff.

    People who want Jihadis killed, bins emptied, roads resurfaced don’t give a crap.

  9. File it all under “Who gives a fuck?”

    What this shows, if anything, is that the chattering/political classes seem determined to prove just how little they understand about what the rise of Donald Trump actually represents.

  10. The Inimitable Steve

    Jim – Everything I write is plagiarised from the dictionary.

    My posts blaren’t.

  11. It could just be the standard Trump trick of whipping up a media frenzy and getting free publicity. I doubt I’d have paid any notice to the GOP convention otherwise.

  12. The ‘progressive’ left think this is a gotcha. The average Joe and Johanna just think it’s beating up on a nice looking lady, making it more likely they’ll vote for the nice lady’s husband.

  13. Andrew M is probably on the money.

    I read a lengthy tweet from a US commenter (since lost) saying
    1 – it’s an SOP of Trump’s to do deliberate acts (such as provocative statements or half truths) to get free media. Apparently he even recommends it in one of his books.
    2 – free general publicity but it specifically, by the comparison, gets the text of her speech in news sources which would ignore it, and they are tending to play more that the “offending” 17 (apparently) words.
    3 – it, once again by the comparison, directly equates Melania Trump (a hopeful) with Michelle Obama (an ACTUAL 1st lady). Get’s people thinking of her in the context of the role of 1st lady, not just bimbo wife 3.

    It seems frighteningly Machiavellian but it is probably more plausible (or at least part 1 is) than “they didn’t notice it was similar/same text”.

    Or it was inside job from a anti-Trumper speechwriter, I guess.

  14. The Democrat Party’s Communication Department, aka the press/media, DO NOT WANT TO COVER THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION. So they spend two news cycles yapping about plagiarism so they don’t have to cover the speeches etc.

    Their readers/viewers are left with the impression that the RNC is about plagiarism, and nothing else.

  15. Bloke in North Dorset

    “The BBC had it on its front page for most of yesterday. It’s bizarre and incredible.”

    Don’t look over there at that axe attack, or over there at those 3 girls getting stabbed, look over here, isn’t this awful?

  16. @DMS

    That would tie in with Scott Adams’s idea that Trump uses ‘persuasion techniques’:

    http://blog.dilbert.com/tagged/Trump

    Whether or not he does, he’s certainly been underestimated by the left. Part of me wants to see him win just to cause the BBC a prolapse.

  17. @The Inimitable Steve, July 20, 2016 at 1:48 pm

    “SJW – Bill Clinton would make history as the second First Lady with a penis.”

    Took a few seconds, then

    ROTFLMAO

    Thanks

    P

    PS you owe me a new keyboard – wine exhaled.

  18. Philip Scott Thomas

    Or it was inside job from a anti-Trumper speechwriter, I guess.

    For all Auntie’s blather about the ‘plagiarism’, how is it that they didn’t notice the speech’s RickRoll? It’s not like it was all that subtle…

    Are they stupid or did it not fit the narrative?

  19. Bloke in Costa Rica

    Steve, you bugger, you should’ve signposted that link to the alarming phizog of Mz Williams a bit better. I nearly did myself a mischief fumbling for the close button.

  20. After careful consideration, my own thoughts are that yes, plagiarism is a big deal: Melania Trump’s stolen words show how cynical Trump’s campaign is
    The would-be First Lady and her husband’s campaign is counting on America not caring about her speech and ethics

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