9 pm on BBC 3 CR
Three Counties Radio. On the subject of slavery reparations. I’m agin’ as you know.
The other person is:
“Reparationist, Jurisconsult, People’s Law Practitioner, Advocate and Reparations Movement History Researcher.”
The odds of information exchange rather than talking past each other?
Hmm, not lot I would fear.
How about reparations for the dissolution of the monasteries by Henry VIII?
Got a linky, yet?
I guess you tried to talk rationally but their argument is based on emotion, so I wouldn’t give any odds.
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“How about reparations for the dissolution of the monasteries by Henry VIII?”
Yeah, let’s establish all the families that put up the money and land to pay for the monasteries, search out all their descendants, and pay them money? But who would supply that money? I know, the magic money tree.
Eh? I’m all for slavery reparations.
Anybody who has been a slave should definitely sue the bastard who enslaved them.
You can see her point about Leigh Day, though?
Although I’m reluctant to admit even that obvious truth.
What’s with this “Afrikan” nonsense, btw?
How many trillions have we already paid in foreign aid and welfare? There’s your reparations. Now fuck off.
TIS: Anybody who has been a slave should definitely sue the bastard who enslaved them.
On the basis of your contribution, I immediately made the appropriate representations to the She-Bison but her response was not suitable for a family blog.
For people that have spent two decades or so arguing for reparations, it’s surprising they’ve been prevented from calculating the amount due.
I think it fair to say that without slavery, Ben Carson would have never been a brain surgeon.
Tiger Woods would have never been a professional golfer.
Et cetera.
The Arab approach to enslaving Africans made sense in the light of this. They didn’t let them breed in captivity (generally); they just got some more as needed (mostly by buying them from other Africans). Castrate the males, and the survivors and the females work until they die.
I think spending 20% of our navel budget for 100+ years stamping out slavery world-wide is adequate reparations.
The cost in lint removal alone was staggering.
All you need to know, SE,
http://www.informafrica.com/information/why-do-some-people-spell-africa-with-a-k-afrika-vs-africa/
First and foremost, the original way to spell the Black and beautifully endowed continent is “Afrika” with a “K“. However, following the invasion of the continent and enslavement of the people several years ago by imperial colonial thieves from the western world, a new name was given to the Black continent and that name is known today as “Africa” with a “C“.
For many Africans and most especially Afrikan activists, the spelling of Africa with a “K” symbolizes our struggle and attempt to come back together again in unity, peace, and love – towards rebuilding the continent and our conscious mindset for the better. In other words, to return to our original (ancestral) glory – living more in harmony prior to colonial thieves invasion of our land, colonization and dispersing us across diaspora.
With regard the living in harmony bollocks, all I can say is: Bantu Expansion, Khoisan Genocide and Mfecane.
DocBud,
Thanks. I think.
But this is something that is actually “known” rather than invented in the “Absurd and Pointless Studies” Department at the University of Lesser Erewhon?
As seen so successfully in Uganda, Liberia, Somalia, even in South Africa (note spelling) or Nigeria.
But that’s evil white colonialism for you – giving blakk aktivists (note spelling) unrealistic expectations of what is achievable by demonstrating what can be done in functional non-tribal societies.
If you’re writing in English, Spanish or Portuguese it’s Africa.
If you’re writing in other languages which use the Latin alphabet (i.e. most other European languages plus basically all African languages since they never invented their own writing systems) then it’s Afrika, because they don’t stupidly use 2 letters to represent the same sound.
Always surprised the French don’t spell it “Afriqueue” to keep up the practise of using the maximum number of superfluous letters in any word. (Weren’t early printers paid by the yard?)
Slavery reparations? Yes, perfectly proper, but we paid it in 1833.
Spanish doesn’t use a ‘K’ except for loan-words – nor, I assume, does Portuguese. The French adjective is Africain(e).
Afrika is up there with Moslem as a means for the writer to dog-whistle their right-on credentials.
Any more such differing spellings for the Guardianista crowd? Not counting e.g. Bombay/Mumbai, since that was a government edict.
Any more such differing spellings for the Guardianista crowd?
Not quite the same, but some years back you used to get a lot of virtue signalling by right-on middle-class gap yar folk calling Ayer’s Rock Uluru. Nowadays pretty much everyone calls it Uluru though, same as Mount McKinley is now called Denali by pretty much everyone.
I remember arguing with some lefty over the Uluru/Ayer’s Rock thing. He said we ought to use the name the locals prefer. I asked him whether he routinely refers to Mount Everest as Sagarmāthā or Chomolungma, and if not, why not.
Afrika is up there with Moslem as a means for the writer to dog-whistle their right-on credentials.
Might be a generation thing. My Dad calls the Moslems, and I’ve noticed our own dearieme using this term too.
Africa started as the Roman name for modern Tunisia, a land of swarthy white people. The extension to a whole continent was probably the work of …. dunno: Europeans?
Should we be saying Skipio Afrikanus ?
Of course Afrika is the spelling used by the Germans and the err..Akrikaaners…
Hmmm… wouldn’t they better off saying Afriqa, or is that too French ?
Pretty awful argument from the lady. Tim did quite well but could have driven the point home a bit by asking for specific examples of how the descendants of slaves are worse off here than they would have been in Africa
‘Always surprised the French don’t spell it “Afriqueue” to keep up the practise of using the maximum number of superfluous letters in any word.’
BWTM . . . l’Afriqueue (!)
I think the Germans would compound it:
Schwarzafrika
I dunno if kilómetro or kilogramo still count as loan words. Mathematica says (DictionaryLookup[{“Spanish”, ___ ~~ “k” ~~ ___}]) that only the following words in Spanish contain a ‘K’: alkermes, cok, cuákera, cuakerismo, cuákero, cuentakilómetros, folklore, folklórica, folklórico, folklorista, ka, kan, kantiana, kantiano, kantismo, kappa, kéfir, kermes, kili, kiliárea, kilo, kilociclo, kilográmetro, kilogramo, kilolitro, kilométrica, kilométrico, kilómetro, kilovatio, kiosco, kirie, kirieleison, krausismo, krausista, kurda, kurdo, vodka, volapuk, yak. There are a few more proper nouns like Kenia and Kirguistán.
Fun fact: anything in Spanish that starts ‘al-‘ is likely a relic of the Moorish occupation (algodon – cotton, alfombra – carpet, etc.). Alkermes is a red tincture (like cochineal) made from the kermes insect. Kermes comes from Arabic qirmiz, which is cognate to our ‘crimson’.
The fears about a lack rational debate proved to be true. Unfortunately a 5 minute(guesstimating) radio spot is not enough time for this discussion.
While certain north African pirates seized and enslaved Britons in the pre-Victorian era, the Britons in the Carribean did not enslave anyone – they bought slaves who had already been enslaved by (almost always) Africans. So the reparations should be paid Guineans, Nigerians, Ghanaians, Sierra Leonese, etc.