Dangerous thing to say really

Pelosi calls DNC hack ‘electronic Watergate’

Because Watergate wasn’t about the break in at all, it was about what the subsequent documents revealed.

14 thoughts on “Dangerous thing to say really”

  1. Bloke in North Dorset

    Initially it was about the cover up and who knew what, eventually leading to Nixon and his paranoia in bugging the Oval Office.

    Or maybe I need to dig out my copy of All The President’s Men to refresh my aging memory.

  2. Looking back, Watergate was small potatoes compared to the gangsterism of the Clintons. Even at the time it looked pretty small beer compared to the antics of JFK and LBJ.

    Was minor corruption a reasonable price to pay for Nixon’s intelligent foreign policy? God knows: but given the stupid foreign policies of JFK, LBJ, Slick Willie, W, and O, you do have to wonder.

    Bring back Ike. Or Reagan. Or Harry Truman. Maybe even, God spare us, Jimmeh Carter.

    As for the hacking of the DNC: it seemed to be suddenly decided it must have been them darned Russkis, never could trust ’em, no sirree!

    But who decided that?

  3. If, as seems for whatever reason to be supposed, the Russians are behind the hack into DNC files, and if this is equivalent to Watergate, then surely it will be Mr. Putin who has to resign.
    Not sure about the mechanism for that.
    Perhaps the parallel doesn’t work?

  4. mostly the fall out came from the subsequent attempt to cover it up and belittle the contents. SO glad that things are different today. *cough*

  5. Can somebody remind me what it was that Nixon was actually accused of doing? Was it actually a well-stated felony, was it one of those US confected “interstate-wire-fraud-RICO-catch-all” charges, or was it really just “we are going to cover this in the press so much that the GOP will never get re-elected so you had better go now.”?

  6. IIRC Nixon knew nothing of the burglary when it occurred, nor about the cover-up when it was instigated. But he then found out about the cover-up, and when asked if there was a cover-up, he lied and said there was no cover-up.

  7. “Nixon and his paranoia in bugging the Oval Office.” Nixon was using the system LBJ had installed which was (if memory serves, but it may not) an improvement over the one JFK used.

  8. Bloke in North Dorset

    You may may well be right, dearieme.

    IIRC there was also some conveniently missing and over recorded tapes

  9. Nixon’s crime was to become complicit in the attempt to cover up the fact that there had been an attempted burglary – and that it was carried out by a team specifically recruited and run by (I think) John Mitchell who was (again I think) the White House counsel. As such he was involved in a conspiracy to prevent a crime being prosecuted.

    The case then revolved around when and how Nixon knew, hence the famous “White House Tapes” with their infamous 18 minute gap that was deleted on the original tape, ostensibly by the stenographer.

    What is amusing in a sour sort of way is that Nixon also tried, and FAILED to sic the IRS onto his opponents, and it was a huge scandal at the time. Obama has successfully used the IRS to aid his re-election, the IRS has admitted doing so, and yet there’s been almost no reaction from anyone other than the conservative blogs and the like. A non-event,. So One hopes that if (and it’s a pretty big if now) Trump wins in November that he gets the DOJ and the IRS working on liberal organisations like all those funded by George Soros as well as that cess pit of corruption, the Clinton Foundation and associated entities.

  10. Ed: Trump won’t be able to do anything with the IRS or DOJ because they are nearly all in the tank for the Democratic Party — as are most career bureaucrats. On both sides of the Atlantic the lefties have just about completed the long march through the institutions.

  11. dearieme,

    Was minor corruption a reasonable price to pay for Nixon’s intelligent foreign policy? God knows: but given the stupid foreign policies of JFK, LBJ, Slick Willie, W, and O, you do have to wonder.

    Bring back Ike. Or Reagan. Or Harry Truman. Maybe even, God spare us, Jimmeh Carter.

    If Nixon’s only problem was corruption then that would be a fair question. Once we consider the wage and price controls, currency manipulation, oppressive welfare programs, and unfundable environmental regulations Watergate become just another reason why Nixon was a terrible president.

    If only we could have Carter/Ford again. While Ford is no longer breathing, and Carter isn’t far behind, they are both far preferable to the Clump.

  12. I never understood, from this side of the Atlantic, why Carter became so despised in the US. Presumably it wasn’t all due to the Keystone Cops attempt at the Iran rescue?

  13. I haven’t found a good policy reason for the hatred toward Carter. If only we could combine Carter’s intellect with Reagan’s charisma we would have a great president.

  14. Carter’s intellect? If you say so, LY.

    I prefer profoundly stupid pols. The sort of people who are too stupid to argue that they’re clever.

    Scrap that, the sort of people who are too stupid to argue.

    A great politician is an honest and decent man.

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