Surprise! Middle aged woman says porn is bad

From our respective positions of rabbi-counselor and former Playboy model and actress, we have often warned about pornography’s corrosive effects on a man’s soul and on his ability to function as husband and, by extension, as father. This is a public hazard of unprecedented seriousness given how freely available, anonymously accessible and easily disseminated pornography is nowadays.

Because, you know, porn shows hot young women and that’s unfair on middle aged women.

Or, as we might put it, I flaunted it to get mine but you can’t because I’m not getting it by flaunting no more.

 

28 thoughts on “Surprise! Middle aged woman says porn is bad”

  1. “pornography’s corrosive effects on a man’s soul and on his ability to function as husband and, by extension, as father. ”

    Thats just a roundabout way of saying ‘porn affects men’s desire to do the things women want them to, so its bad of course’.

  2. Jim,

    But in reality, men generally use porn when there’s no available options. Wife goes off to a training course for a week, you fire it up.

  3. @BiW: well sort of. Porn increases the supply of sexual content in a man’s life. He’s thus less likely to do stuff on behalf of women on the off chance of getting sex, so women’s power over men declines. Thats what they don’t like about porn. All the guff about mens mental wellbeing and ability to function properly etc is just code for ‘my BF/husband won’t do stuff for me any more!’

  4. Porn has had a similar effect for men as contraception did for women. It removes the power of the opposite gender. It also reduces the market rates of sexual gratification. The market value of women reaching the end of their child bearing period has dropped off a cliff.

  5. “This is a public hazard of unprecedented seriousness given how freely available, anonymously accessible and easily disseminated pornography is nowadays.”

    Funny. Every society and age since the printing press was invented has been saying the same thing.
    True now we have videos to watch online. Back before video it was a live sex show. Is that any different really except the location?
    Perhaps this middle aged woman isn’t offering enough sex for her male so moans about them watching what they are not getting. Couple watch porn. Women watch porn.
    Its not just men.

    Have seen numerous facebooks posts about how a little porn is bad for you. Quite why these ministers, counsellors and therapists are focusing on dwarf porn I have no idea. I do agree with them that there is not enough quality dwarf porn… or as they call it ‘little porn’.

  6. Magnus,

    The market value of women reaching the end of their child bearing period has dropped off a cliff.

    Actually it’s quite the opposite. You don’t marry a 35 year old for the great sex: you marry her because you both want kids. That hasn’t changed with the arrival of porn. By contrast, if you’re looking for sex, you now get to choose between expensively wining and dining a girl (and buying presents, remembering her birthday, all that hassle), or just watching porn. So it’s the young girls who lose out the most with greater porn availability.

    Older girls lose a bit too, but not as much as the young ones.

  7. dearieme – for the same reason priests need counselling.
    Or indeed certain call centre workers.

    Extends ability to do the job by some years.

  8. Andrew M, you have it exactly backwards. No one who wants kids is looking for a 35yo woman, they are entering the terminal stages of declining fertility. You marry that girl for the sex. It’s the 25yo woman you marry for babies.

  9. So Much For Subtlety

    Andrew M – “You don’t marry a 35 year old for the great sex: you marry her because you both want kids.”

    The key word being both. That is the 25 year old has been told not to waste time on children. It is only the 35 year old who is looking for a sucker willing to pay her bills and support her children. She is settling. Some men are willing to settle too.

    You marry the 35 year old because it is time, because people expect you to do so, because it is good for your career and to some extent because you want children. You do not do so for the sex. Nor do you do so because that is a sensible choice. It is just for a lot of men the only choice – and often one they are bullied into when the woman they are dating “accidentally” gets pregnant.

    If they are lucky, the children they are raising in a cold, unfeeling household will be theirs. But perhaps the woman has been exercising her age old right to choose the father of her children:

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/2010/10/whos-the-daddy/

  10. So is a rabbi-counsellor someone who counsels rabbis or a rabbi who is a counsellor or even a rabbi who is a counsellor and specialises in counselling rabbis

  11. So Much For Subtlety

    Social Justice Warrior – “When I married my wife it was because we were in love.”

    If you were a Bible-believing Christian that might make sense. But you are not. What precisely did a marriage certificate add to your relationship that did not exist before?

    What you did is give her a right to reduce you to indentured servitude. That is a trade whether you choose to recognise it or not. The question is what you got back in return. I am willing to guess …. nothing. At least nothing except her undying eternal appreciation. Or something like that.

  12. So Much For Subtlety

    BniC – “So is a rabbi-counsellor someone who counsels rabbis or a rabbi who is a counsellor or even a rabbi who is a counsellor and specialises in counselling rabbis”

    Oddly enough the Rabbi in question is, I believe, the uncle of the low life gun salesman whose life has just become the movie War Dogs. I wonder if he gave his nephew any seed funding.

  13. AM

    “expensively wining and dining a girl (and buying presents, remembering her birthday, all that hassle)”

    That’s part of the pleasure. And it is better than beating the bishop to some porn featuring tattooed slavs with dirty finger nails…

  14. When I married my wife it was because we were in love.

    Why do human beings love each other?

    There must be some reason for the pair-bond to have evolved. And the research indicates it is all to do with bringing up children.

  15. So Much For Subtlety

    Theophrastus – “And it is better than beating the bishop to some porn featuring tattooed slavs with dirty finger nails…”

    A growing number of young men do not agree with you. Why would they? The choice is increasingly between dishonour in the eyes of the community plus a lack of sex or a single life with a lot of online porn.

    We are going to have to rethink this model or we will go the way of the dodo.

  16. Theo,
    I agree that there’s plenty of enjoyment in the chase. But apparently most men’s revealed preference is for porn.

    Mr Black,
    The problem is that a lot of 25 year old girls aren’t thinking about kids. But my point is that porn doesn’t change the value of older women: you’re not marrying them for the great sex anyway, so porn doesn’t change their market value. For younger women it does.

    SJW,
    Men have been assigning a value to women for millennia: “She’s a 3/10” is the kind of line you hear in sitcoms. If it’s any consolation, women do the same to men too.

  17. This is an economic argument, marriage is increasingly risky and expensive. Most 35 year olds have partner counts north of 20, and are fat. Divorce is almost inevitable and will see you lose all your money.

    So you replace all that with free porn, where more attractive women fuck for free.

    Pam has hit the wall hard and has nothing else but her looks, which are fast vanishing. She is replaced by 20 year olds.

    Harsh? No fuck her.

    It may not be the same, but it’s good enough.

  18. Andy, may be increasingly risky and expensive for some. Not for others.
    There are millions of couples who stay happily married till death do them part.
    Admittedly some should perhaps not get married. Twice I’ve worked with female divorcees. Nothing new about that. They were each teenagers.
    Married at 18, divorced at 19.

    There’s something to be said for not meeting the bride beforehand. Do arranged marriages have similar divorce rates? Do the Moonies marriages have similar divorce rates?

  19. “But apparently most men’s revealed preference is for porn.”

    ‘Most men look at porn’ and ‘Most men prefer porn to modern women’ are quite different propositions.

    SMFS: not quite sure what point you are making, but most habitual wankers are losers, so the gene pool isn’t missing much.

  20. So Much For Subtlety

    Theophrastus – “not quite sure what point you are making, but most habitual wankers are losers, so the gene pool isn’t missing much.”

    Except it is not the underclass that has a problem with porn. It is often precisely the sort of boys who should be having children. The feckless have children. The criminal have children. The undeserving poor have children.

    Increasingly the sort of boys who would have held decent but unexciting jobs – the sort of boys I went to school with – are not marriageable to most girls because they are not exciting and they watch porn instead. This is not a good outcome for society.

    It just speeds the day until Britain looks like Gaza.

  21. SMFS

    Perhaps; but the use of porn is the effect, not the cause, of some boys being deemed unexciting by their female contemporaries.

  22. “risky and expensive for some. Not for others.”

    No the risks are there for everyone.

    The “problem” here is not boys looking at porn, it’s boys looking at porn, then looking at the female dross on offer and deciding it just is not worth it.

    There really has been a revolution in sex lives and relationships over the past 10-15 years, one which has largely passed unnoticed by the MSM and older people. Women are frankly pretty worthless now.

  23. I thought that men had been declared entirely redundant and surplus to requirements when it came to being husbands and raising children? what happened to “a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle” etc etc? you know sparing children from the toxic effects of their testosterone and patriarchal oppression and such like.
    Or do they really mean that women are starting to panic because increasing numbers of young men men are wising up to the games women play and are simply refusing to get suckered into paying out for kids they don’t want or aren’t actually theirs?

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