Well, yes….

While some criticised what they saw as a case of cultural appropriation, Jacobs said he saw only people, not their race. “[To] all who cry ‘cultural appropriation’ or whatever nonsense about any race or skin colour wearing their hair in any particular style or manner – funny how you don’t criticise women of colour for straightening their hair,” the designer said.

Still, there are those who need to be told to fuck off:

And they attacked his comparison with the attitudes towards people from black and ethnic minority backgrounds straightening their hair. The pressure many feel to do so is in itself a form of racism, they argued.

One Instagram user, whose handle was king.kourtt, wrote: “Saying ‘I don’t see colour’ is honestly just a way of avoiding the obvious issue at hand. Racism and culture appropriation so exist! By avoiding the problem you are the problem. Please remember that. By having these conversations, in a respectful manner of course, we can turn this situation into a positive learning opportunity.”

Fuck right off that is.

24 thoughts on “Well, yes….”

  1. If there is one thing that historians will look back on when going over the corpse of traditional media and say “Here the rot had set in” it will be their use of quoting random Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook users in support of a story or point of view. Half of the BBC’s output these days is reporting on what random people on Twitter are saying.

  2. “By having these conversations, in a respectful manner of course, we can turn this situation into a positive learning opportunity.”

    May I add “…and when you get there, fuck off again!”..?

    Because ‘respectful manner’ to these people means that we agree that they are right and promise never to do what hurts their feels ever again. Screw that!

  3. It’s weird because 20 years ago not being racist was all about appropriating culture. My old hippy mates all grew dreadlocks and played the digeridoo (or digeridont as I would call that awful noise making log) my not wanting to have anything to do with that nonsense was looked down on by some of them. Now they are the racist ones hahaha.

  4. Well, straight hair is just reclaiming something that was originally from POC, cos as I’m sure we all know, white people stole everything from POC originally. Everything.

    Hence it’s not cultural appropriation to reclaim what’s rightfully theirs.

    Or something.

  5. failure to enact ‘cultural appropriation’ is the ultimate racism as it shows a desire to keep all people locked in their tribes

  6. Tim N is right.

    It can’t be long before the media in general and the Guardian in particular has an on site correspondent in Broadmoor to provide daily news on the views of the residents.

  7. “And they attacked his comparison with the attitudes towards people from black and ethnic minority backgrounds straightening their hair. The pressure many feel to do so is in itself a form of racism, they argued.”

    This is why it will never end. You can make a glib, fallacious argument in favour of anything, and it is always accepted. Positions can be turned 180 degrees instantly and that becomes the new orthodoxy.

    The mystery is why this bollocks about a fashion show over 3,000 miles away has become a major news story for the media. Someone could have been gunned down on stage and the story wouldn’t have lasted so long.

  8. Tim Newman,

    Quite. Why do I care what king.courtt thinks?

    It’s also that you’ve got a major newspaper writing stuff like this. Cultural Appropriation is the level of politics of the most cliched political correctness. It’s bordering on the satire that Viz makes.

    This isn’t cops harassing black people or even the Black and White Minstrel Show. Apart from the fact that the subject is stupid, there isn’t even a group of any significant size that thinks it’s a problem.

  9. “you’ve got a major newspaper …”: judging by circulation, none of them are “major” any more. Judging by profit and loss, most of them are negative in magnitude. Admittedly, judging by effectiveness as a tax dodger, the Guardian is major. Major major.

  10. JuliaM

    When someone prefaces a comment with the words “with the greatest respect”, you know for sure that what follows will be disrespectful to the max. In the same way, “let us agree to disagree” is another way of saying “you’re wrong and you’re so stupid there’s no point educating you further”.

    The basic position of a lefty is that everyone else is wrong. When a lefty runs out of righties to dismiss as wrong (as happened in Britain about five years ago), said lefty turns his sights on other lefties who aren’t quite as correct about everything as he is. Hence we now have the Corbynites vs the Blairites. Once the Corbynites win, they will start to attack each other. If allowed to proceed (i.e. if a Trump does not meantime arise), the process ends with Pol Pot and Year Zero, after which the cycle starts all over again.

  11. By coincidence the mail was running this story from Yale yesterday (it’s old news but I think they just found a new video of it):

    http://tinyurl.com/j67nsny

    The root of the complaint was a statement by the professor’s wife (they were both some kind of resident academics in halls) that perhaps we should tolerate some slightly culturally-insensitive Halloween costumes. Basically because she is a child development academic who doesn’t like mollycoddling.

    It’s fascinating (and tragic) to see what this mentality actually looks like, first-hand.

    The mob-bullying. The weirdly out-of-control emotion. The strange attempt at physical intimidation by staring and getting up in his face. The assertion that there cannot be any common humanity between protestor and professor.

    These are meant to be Yale students FFS! Can you imagine this happening at Oxford or Cambridge? I’m amazed nobody was slung out of the institution for this behaviour.

  12. The more this kind of thing goes on the more inclined I become to view BLM and their fellow travellers as nothing more than shit stirring crybullies and shake down artists and any empathy I may have for black people is rapidly disappearing.
    If white people en-masse are going to be tarred as racists regardless of what they do why should they give a rats ass for the concerns of black people?

  13. Bloke in North Dorset

    “These are meant to be Yale students FFS! Can you imagine this happening at Oxford or Cambridge? ”

    Yep. All these fashions and trends cross the pond and in many cases get gold plated, most recently BLM.

    I blame the parents, (no, I don’t read the DM) especially fathers, for treating their daughters as “little princesses” and never chastising them. Boys, being boys, will do anything for a shag and so join these movements with gusto.

  14. Good on Jacobs for not backing down, but the response he got shows the fruitlessness of arguing with these people. “Fuck off,” is all they deserve.

    AJ – spot on. What worries me is that, while we can dismiss the concept of whiteness as original sin is such egregious bollocks, it is being taught as fact in an increasing number of schools in the US. Shit that starts on the fringes of the loony left in the US often ends up as policy in the UK.

    Tim N – agreed a million times over.

  15. Comrade Hillary can’t get elected on “I’m going to take away all your rights.” So she runs on fighting for women’s rights.

    An Alinsky principal is at work. The West must be destroyed because of its miserable job on women’s rights.

    No one else in the world gives a shit about women’s rights.

    The Left’s goal is to implement totalitarian government. To achieve that, they must get you to accept it. So they they use political Jujitsu, using Western values against the West. The supreme irony. People who support the Left think that the Left is going to better implement Western values. The Left keeps talking about Western values. But the Left’s goal is to do away with Western values.

    Hillary couldn’t care less about women’s rights, or any one else’s rights. All the Left’s issues are merely political props. So, yes, AJ. BLM et al are just fellow travelers, out front because public is currently acceptant of their schtick.

  16. Tim Newman – “Half of the BBC’s output these days is reporting on what random people on Twitter are saying.”

    Reporting is hard. You have to go out of the office. Meet people. Talking to them. Write stuff down. It certainly helps if you know stuff about the stuff you are asking about.

    Now newspapers can’t afford to hire people who know what they are talking about, they are hiring work experience girls who know nothing and spend 20 hours a day glued to their phones. So no wonder about 99% of their reporting is nonsense that passed over their social media.

    It is cheap, it is simple, it requires no effort – and it requires no knowledge.

  17. Did a cultural sensitivity course once and saying you don’t see colour was seen as trying to ignore the problem of race so was racist. Seriously you can’t win with some of these people, damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Maybe he should have claimed it was an example of exercising cultural humility

  18. The mention of race should be banned.

    Differentiating people requires differentiating behavior. The mention of race is racist.

    ‘you don’t see colour was seen as trying to ignore the problem of race’

    Problem? If all ignored race there would be no more problem. The Left doesn’t want no more problem. Racism is a useful prop.

  19. Dan, I love the lonely island but hadn’t seen that video, thanks…. A few people will find that link on their FB shortly!

  20. Thomas Fuller,

    The other home of “With all due, proper, and appropriate respect, sir…” is when an experienced SNCO administers advice and correction to a junior officer. Does depend on the respect being there and mutual (or they wouldn’t bother trying to fix you) though.

  21. It’s surprising how positive a learning opportunity can be furnished by smacking someone repeatedly in the face with a stout length of mahogany. Both smacker and smackee emerge edified by the experience.

  22. So Much For Subtlety

    I keep saying, the Left, and especially academia, is utterly obsessed with race. They have weaponised it so that inciting racial hatred of Whites is perfectly acceptable – as it serves them – but even hinting at racial solidarity by Whites is almost literally a crime.

    The White communities of the West have given up on racism. The non-White communities of the world have not. They hate you. For the colour of your skin. They will go on hating you. It pays for them. It works for them. Because they are enabled by Leftist idiots.

    So naturally the only moral response is to invite 40 million of them to move to the UK.

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