Why not open a few more landfills you fucking twat!

Waste crime is the “new narcotics” according to the head of the Environment Agency (EA), offering huge profits as the authorities race to catch up with the damage caused to society.

Illegal waste activity costs England £1bn a year and more than 1,000 illegal waste sites were discovered last year, more than in the previous two years combined, with 662 still active as of the end of March.

The offences, sometimes involving organised crime gangs, ranged from illegal dumping of household and industrial waste to massive frauds involving recycling fees and landfill tax. However, action by the EA led to almost 1,000 illegal sites being shut down last year, with fines and prosecutions doubling.

“Waste is the new narcotics,” said Sir James Bevan, chief executive of the Environment Agency. “It feels to me like drugs felt in the 1980s: the system hadn’t quite woken up to the enormity of what was going on and was racing to catch up.”

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27 thoughts on “Why not open a few more landfills you fucking twat!”

  1. Our local council have decided on a fantastic wee wheeze. They’ve moved our regular and garden waste bin collections to a 3-week system. Regular one week, garden the other and then miss a week.

    This is apparently because its costing them too much in landfill tax to get rid of our regular rubbish, and we should be recylcing more. Of course, it has nothing to do with running one less bin lorry every month, with the reduction in labour, fuel and maintenance costs that come with it.

  2. “We are clear now about the damage waste crime does to communities and to the economy,” he said.

    What damage to the economy would that be, then? I must be missing something…

  3. Rhyds, I bet the corresponding reduction in your council tax (to reflect the reduction in service) is enough for a couple of beers and a packet of chips on the way home, though, eh?

  4. “Waste is the new narcotics,” said Sir James Bevan, chief executive of the Environment Agency. “It feels to me like drugs felt in the 1980s: the system hadn’t quite woken up to the enormity of what was going on and was racing to catch up.”

    Sounds like a man wetting himself in anticipation of sweeping new powers and a massive budget increase.

  5. Bloke in North Dorset

    “Waste is the new narcotics,” said Sir James Bevan, chief executive of the Environment Agency. “It feels to me like drugs felt in the 1980s: the system hadn’t quite woken up to the enormity of what was going on and was racing to catch up.”

    The disadvantage of being wealth y enough to worry about waste is that it produces parasites like this. Perhaps they could be used to test flights to St Helena.

    I think it was Raedwald who calculated, a very long time ago, the amount of quarrying we were doing and the amount of rubbish we were generating and concluded that the former was leaving a bigger hole than the latter could fill.

    As our host has pointed out a number of times, the only reason we’ve got in to the mess is because the Dutch can’t dig big holes so the EU is taxing our comparative advantage.

  6. “Waste is the new narcotics,” said Sir James Bevan, chief executive of the Environment Agency. “It feels to me like drugs felt in the 1980s: the system hadn’t quite woken up to the enormity of what was going on and was racing to catch up.”

    Of course it’s just like drugs, both issues have the same cause. Government regulations creating massive incentives to bypass government regulations.

  7. The entire recycling farce is EU-created.

    Time for it to end and weekly collection again straight to landfill. No fines at any level.

    Never mind Article 50–action now.

    If we had any councils with balls they could win big popularity by doing as suggested above unilaterally without waiting for any political bullshit. Tell the EU to fucking whistle for their fines.

    May would then have to try and squelch any such council for making a popular anti-EU move while still claiming she is for Brexit.

    And Sir James Prick will have the “I want money and power” wind taken out of his sails before it even gets started.

  8. Governments make waste disposal both difficult and expensive and they find people are bypassing the official process and disposing of waste illegally? Why, whoever would have thought this would happen?!

  9. This thread has an unhealthy and down right unBritish preoccupation with public provision .Clearly, this is a situation for private initiative with people competing to bung stuff in any public, and if necessary ,private places available.People must be disabused of the notion that we live in an organised society. The work of Mrs Thatcher goes on!! Keep the faith!

  10. “Of course, it has nothing to do with running one less bin lorry every month, with the reduction in labour, fuel and maintenance costs that come with it.”

    While there may be savings on fuel and maintenance costs, one suspects there will be zero reduction in labour costs………………….

  11. “Governments make waste disposal both difficult and expensive and they find people are bypassing the official process and disposing of waste illegally? Why, whoever would have thought this would happen?!”

    Its that Intellectual Yet Idiot inability to see second (and higher) order effects again………………….

  12. To be fair its not so much the producers of waste dumping it in hedgerows to evade landfill charges, its more that criminals have discovered that there’s lots of £££ to be made by charging the producers to remove waste, then just fly tipping it. Thats how all this serious amounts of illegal waste appears. The original producers have thought they are paying to have it disposed of legally, but they could (if identified) end up paying again for it to be disposed of properly, as its the waste producers responsibility to ensure it is disposed of legally.

  13. its more that criminals have discovered that there’s lots of £££ to be made by charging the producers to remove waste, then just fly tipping it. Thats how all this serious amounts of illegal waste appears.

    Which the mafia have been doing around Naples since when? The 1970s?

  14. Reedy: We were talking about the situation as is.

    If you are suggesting that all local councils be done away with then you are going in the right direction. Whatever therapy you are in –it seems to be working.

  15. Not just the new narcotics, if this clown has his way. It’s the new AIDS, millennium bug and Islamophobia rolled into one.

    But try hiring a skip (price rise more than 100% in a decade?) and if you don’t fill it quick yourself your neighbours will.

    Some councils (even Lambeth!) are sufficiently aware of the problem Tim N points out that if you phone them up to say you’re going to dump something large like a mattress they will send round a truck to collect it. On the rates.

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  17. This last paragraph is arguably more moronic than even Richard Murphy:

    “England is getting a better place to live – greener, cleaner and more prosperous,” said Bevan. “There is more to do, absolutely, but the glass is half full.”

    “It is in part an example of regulation working,” said Bevan, a former high commissioner to India. “I have seen an example of what happens if you don’t regulate – the Bhopal disaster. If you think regulation is bad, try not doing it.”

    The profusion of waste dumping is ‘on a par with Bhopal’ – I mean the sooner the Guardian closes down the better – feeble stuff….

  18. Anyone who uses the word “enormity” in the catachrestic sense of “very large” rather than its correct sense of “a great and extreme wickedness” is clearly a wrong ‘un and can be ignored henceforth. At least I assume this rent-seeking parasite is not equating dumping a few fridges to the Armenian Genocide.

  19. It is in part an example of regulation working,” said Bevan, a former high commissioner to India. “I have seen an example of what happens if you don’t regulate – the Bhopal disaster. If you think regulation is bad, try not doing it.”

    Oh yes, Bhopal. A plant run by Indians, which the American owners wanted to close but the Indian unions put pressure on local politicians to forbid its closure because it was the only place where there were jobs, and where the local government did nothing about a shanty town being built around the perimeter fence. Yup, whitey’s fault.

  20. Waste collection system around us works pretty well. Council rates only pay for recycling collection – one big wheelie bin that pretty much anything recyclable goes in – this gets collected fortnightly.

    I then have the option to choose anybody to come along and collect my rubbish. If I want to do bin bags then I can buy Council bin bags in the supermarket if I want, and they’ll collect them weekly; or I can select bin bags from a couple of private companies (which tend to be slightly cheaper than the Council’s – and come in a range of sizes).

    The bin bag thing is a bit too much like hard work for me though so, instead, I rent a wheelie bin service from one of about 4 private companies, again range of sizes depending on how much waste I want taken away, and a choice of weekly or fortnightly collection.

    The gardener deals with green waste but before we had one of them I had a ad hoc composting service. They provided a big garden bag and, when it was full, I would send them an email and someone would come and take it away and provide another bag.

    Pretty much the only thing our Council gets right too – get out of the way so that other people can provide a better service than they can!

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