A thought on the emails

It’s Weiner’s laptop, right? Or at least one he had access to?

And we assume that these are emails to Abedin which are on that laptop?

So, if he did have access to that account (passwords etc) and also there’s anything confidential in there, then that’s that, isn’t it?

This is quite apart from whether the emails themselves are more interesting, or even different, from what has already been seen, no?

Although of course that would mean that it’s absolutely nothing at all to do with Hillary’s server. It’s Abedin not taking care of her own email account.

29 thoughts on “A thought on the emails”

  1. What’s worse, is that LinkedIn may also get involved, so all those recommendations will be copied to the whole world, and eventually, we’ll all know everything about everybody!

    One certainty in life, is that you’ll never ever escape an old LinkedIn account…

  2. When the Trump says that the election is rigged, everyone jumps on him and says “how dare you attack the election process”. When Hillary’s campaign basically claim that the Director of the FBI is a crook, the media applaud and transmit the claim.

    I think Trump is awful, and that Hillary is little better. But the partisan reporting makes me want to see the Donald win, just so I can see all the pointy heads explode.

  3. As I understand it (and I’ll cheerfully be corrected by people who know more) they are a number of issues here. The FBI decided to tell congress rather than have it leaked by an in house Hillary supporter (imagine the “secret FBI probe” headlines if they hadn’t) and all they’ve said isthey’r continuing to investigate mishandling confidential information, not that they’re specifically investigating Hillary.

    Huma Abedin has sworn under oath that she had given over all devices with email relevant to the investigation. While investigating a different potential crime they found Weiners laptop which has allegedly tens of thousands of Abedin’s emails, largely because she never deleted anything and left every email she ever received in her inbox. As a result you have several possible offences being investigated: Abedin lying under oath, Abedin using insecure email for confidential info, Abedin granting her husband (who I presume isn’t cleared) access to said info, and lastly possibly Hillary using insecure email and having lied about what was in the emails her staff deleted off the server.

    It’s going to be revealing to watch just how quickly Abedin gets thrown under the bus to protect Hillary – the sooner it happens, the bigger the potential scandal

  4. Ignoring all the possible political content with its own ramifications, at base the Hillary investigation was about mishandling classified information. The e-mails found on the unsecured Weiner laptop will carry details as to where they came from and who else they went to.

  5. I see this meme pass around in a couple of places (starting with ZeroHedge):

    Anthony Weiners put those emails in a folder call “Life Insurance”.

  6. Perhaps I’m wrong, but I don’t get the feeling that Labour voters toe the line quite as obediently as Democrats.

    The extent to which the latter will just ignore everything wrong with the Clintons because team is amazing.

    But I bet that, as with the Kennedys, in thirty or so years all sorts of stuff will come out about them. Unless Chelsea is running, I suppose.

  7. Ken: “Clinton is little better”

    Are you joking.

    Corruption on a colossal scale, ditto treason-by-arrogance, geo-political bungling that has cost hundreds of thousands their lives and kicked off the migrant bullshit, rape enabler and very likely a murderess –by reason of having ordered up to 60 killings. Lets not forget election-fraudster and authoriser/possible instigator of political violence at Trump rallies and a one-woman dirty tricks program. And warmonger.

    Oh lets also remember charity fraudster and drug wholesaler on a massive scale via Billy-Boy.

    That is probably only part of Killery’s claims to infamy.

    WTF has Trump done that is even on the same planet as that little list.

    I am pigsick of dangerous chumps looking down their toffee noises at Trump.

    If that bitch wins the world will have a lot more to worry about than Trump’s minor failings.

  8. Weiner had no, repeat no, security clearance. If there’s a single email with classified information on that laptop it will change matters.

    It’s also likely, as Abedin was a “fixer” fr the Clintons and heavily involved in the Clinton Foundation and Teneo, another vehicle very heavily involved in the “Pay for Play” shenanigans the Clinton’s were very heavily into; that there’s potentially a lot of of the missing emails that the FBI earlier could not recover.

    It is possible that they are “explosive” in terms of their content. Here’s hoping anyway.

    As Weiner is supposed to have said yesterday “when I was sexting a 15 year old, I didn’t think I’d be fucking a 69 year old….”

  9. at base the Hillary investigation was about mishandling classified information.

    Actually, at base it was about trying to get around Freedom of Information Act requirements, as well as federal data retention requirements.

    And Abedin apparently did the same thing (lying to federal investigators) that got Martha Stewart convicted. But Martha wasn’t a Friend of Hillary.

    Rule of Law, indeed.

  10. Tim said: “And we assume that these are emails to Abedin which are on that laptop? ”

    Reportedly it’s more like emails Abedin sent to others using Hilary’s server, BCCd to herself via a gmail address. So they could be looking at confidential material being mishandled by Hilary, and also being stolen or hidden to avoid FOI by Abedin.

  11. If you’re doing stuff that’s sufficiently dodgy to not want to have it on a government server, why are you doing it by any kind of mechanism which leaves an electronic trail?

    This isn’t just about printing copies of classified material to read on the train; this is wholesale evasion of supervision.

  12. “If you’re doing stuff that’s sufficiently dodgy to not want to have it on a government server, why are you doing it by any kind of mechanism which leaves an electronic trail?”

    Because they are morons with mindsets born of, and stuck in, the 70s, 80s and 90s.

  13. So Much For Subtlety

    Mr Ecks – “Because they are morons with mindsets born of, and stuck in, the 70s, 80s and 90s.”

    And because they are entitled. They are so convinced of their moral rectitude that they think the laws do not apply to them.

    After all, they have got away with much worse going all the way back to Hillary’s cattle futures trades.

  14. It’s a sign of the continued decline of The Telegraph, and its colonization by feminists, that they are going along with the Clinton line that the issue here is FBI malpractise, rather than the numerous crimes that Hilary and her team appear to have committed.

  15. That scum Hastings in the DM also has a down on Trump. That Maxxie boy is also a Remain hack is no surprise. CM birds of a feather etc.

  16. Hillary’s supporters are missing the point.

    Anthony Weiner turned that laptop over to the FBI, no doubt as part of a “get out of jail free” strategy. No doubt he has also told the FBI all of the particulars of how that laptop ended up being used as it was, and by whom. No doubt Abedin will think twice about perjuring herself with Weiner happy to contradict her.

    This election is all about turnout, and Hillary – once again – is giving voters a great reason not to vote for her.

    No doubt he has given depositions on the subject, and no doubt that those depositions will be pulled out and used if Huma Abedin gives testimony that differs from what is in Weiner’s depositions.

    The FBI now has details they didn’t possess before, and largely because they have a witness who is keen to cooperate.

    Another part of the equation is, if the Telegraph is to be believed, FBI Director James Comey was keen to pursue this opening. Evidently the career FBI agents, including his immediate subordinates, are in more or less open revolt over his initial handling of the Clinton email mess. There are tales both of mass resignations and that agents in the FBI headquarters where refusing to acknowledge Comey’s existence when they came into contact with him. Supposedly Comey saw this as a way to make amends and repair his reputation within the FBI. (It won’t.)

    I’ve said for awhile that I thought Trump would win, and the margin was going to surprise folks, but now with this it is hard to see Clinton as anything but a dead bitch walking. I cannot see Bernie Sanders’ supporters turning out in droves for her, but I can see a lot of swing voters just saying “Fuck it” and staying home, no matter how high their distaste for Trump.

  17. This election is all about turnout, and Hillary – once again – is giving voters a great reason not to vote for her.

    That was supposed to be at the end of my rant, not in the middle. I blame the FBI.

  18. So Much For Subtlety

    Dennis the Peasant – “The FBI now has details they didn’t possess before, and largely because they have a witness who is keen to cooperate.”

    A witness who has not, pre-emptively, been given immunity.

    The FBI’s behaviour has been outrageous.

    I for one welcome our new orange overlord.

  19. “The FBI’s behaviour has been outrageous.” ‘fraid so: is there any part of the Federal government that works more or less as it is intended to?

  20. Bloke in Costa Rica

    Yeah, what the hell? I’ve had an email address since 1989 and I’m pretty sure 650 thousand emails exceeds the amounts I’ve ever sent or received, including spam, by an order of magnitude.

  21. Given what we know about public sector IT monkeys, let’s hope the reason the laptop has 650,000 emails on it is that they were incrementally backing up the entire mailserver contents every night for eight years. By accident.

    *popcorn*

  22. Bloke in North Dorset

    In a world of big data 650,000 emails is nothing. They should be able to search that lot to illiminate duplicates and the ones they already have in seconds. Searching the rest for key words shouldn’t take long either.

    I have a program that searches the .pst files that I created to back up all my emails so you don’t even need them in text form.

  23. So Much For Subtlety

    Ivor – “let’s hope the reason the laptop has 650,000 emails on it is that they were incrementally backing up the entire mailserver contents every night for eight years. By accident”

    The joke doing the rounds is that Weiner saved them in a file called “Life Insurance”.

    Presumably it is what should have been in the public record anyway – all of the e-mails from or to Hillary or her Evil Minions.

  24. > This election is all about turnout … I cannot see Bernie Sanders’ supporters turning out in droves for her, but I can see a lot of swing voters just saying “Fuck it” and staying home, no matter how high their distaste for Trump.

    I think it could be bigger than that. Elections, as deadlines, concentrate the mind. I can see people making it all the way into the voting booth before they realise they can’t bring themselves to put an X next to her name. And, once you’re there, why not vote anyway?

    I’ve seen pundits expressing shock that some people are apparently still undecided this late. But that strikes me as a pretty rational response to two such fucking awful candidates. This election isn’t about being persuaded to vote for a candidate by a positive message; it’s about not being able to bring yourself to overcome the distaste of voting for a candidate because you wouldn’t be able to live with yourself. Trump is awful, but he’s awful by himself. Clinton has been busily corrupting the entire Republic.

    I detest both candidates, and I think they’ll both be disasters — and indeed already have been — in their own ways. But, as the deadline looms, I’ve found myself realising that Trump will probably be slightly less of a disaster. That may be all the edge he needs to get a vote. I’m not all that weird. I’m sure there are Americans thinking the same way I am. I wonder how many.

    Polls are unreliable anyway, but that’s when it comes to predicting a winner. But no-one’s going to win this election: someone’s just going to lose least. I don’t believe any polling methodology handles the psychology behind that.

    It was the Yes side’s campaigning that won the Scottish Referendum for the No side. It was largely the Remain Campaign that won the EU Referendum for Leave. Will Clinton win for Trump?

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