So, err, it’s a breach of promise suit?

‘She’s a traditional girl’: Mariah Carey ‘refused to sleep with ex-fiancé James Packer before marriage’ as it’s claimed they ‘slept in separate beds’

But if she didn’t put out then there’s no breach of promise, is there?

11 thoughts on “So, err, it’s a breach of promise suit?”

  1. Mariah’s alleged no sex before marriage rule refutes claims she had an affair with choreographer, Bryan Tanaka

    Well, no, actually it doesn’t.

  2. So Much For Subtlety

    F*cking hell that Packer is an idiot.

    Mariah Carey as a blushing virgin? A traditional Catholic girl?

    He should have listened to the shut-in’s internet meme – no hymen, no diamond.

  3. No idea why he would want to marry her, she’s on the downward slope of what looks like a rather steep slide, and doesn’t appear to have an ounce of grace or charm to buffer it.

    Billionaires really should have higher standards.

  4. So Much For Subtlety

    David Moore – “He’s an Aussie, the regional term is ‘cunt-struck’.”

    A perfectly acceptable British India expression if you don’t mind. But that’s the point. I wouldn’t feel such contempt for the man if he was having his knob polished until it blistered. Packer was putting up with her craziness and he wasn’t even getting close to her genitalia.

    He would have been better off with a drunken Camden Town slag.

  5. no hymen, no diamond

    Where life creates a problem, modern plastic surgery creates a solution…

    Women Have Surgery to ‘Restore’ VirginityIn a world of extreme makeovers where human bodies are now fashioned to order, this may be the ultimate plastic surgery. It is for women only. It is veiled in secrecy. And it fixes a tiny part of the anatomy rarely mentioned in polite company.

    You may know it by a variety of slang terms. Technically, it’s the hymen, a thin membrane that partially covers the opening of the vagina. A girl who has never had sexual intercourse is supposed to have her hymen intact.

    Now, a new surgical technique is giving girls with a past a new future.

    “The hymen’s a delicate membrane that separates girls from women,” said Dr. Robert Stubbs, who runs the Cosmetic Surgicentre in Toronto, where, in a simple, half-hour operation, he turns sexually experienced women into surgical virgins.

    The surgery is called hymen restoration — a relatively simple procedure that stitches back together what a moment of passion might have shattered.

    ‘Queen of Virginity’

    In New York City, the operation has created a new class of royalty: “They call me the Queen of the Virginity, ” says Cuban-born Esmeralda Venegas, who runs the Ridgewood Health and Beauty Center in Queens.

    Here, board-certified plastic surgeons repair the thin membrane, either by stitching the frayed ends together or by adding a patch of tissue from the vaginal walls. Either way, it’s a procedure that’s a lot easier and less dangerous than the usual nips and tucks women come here for.

    But the psychic pain associated with the decision to undergo the surgery is immense. We met one young woman, a 17-year-old we’ll call Rosalita, who — forced by centuries of tradition — traveled incognito to Venegas’ clinic.

    “I heard when I was young that all the girls that get married, they bled for the first time,” Rosalita said.

    For Rosalita, the idea that brides should bleed on their wedding night was very important.

    “Yeah, that’s important, because they know that you are a virgin,” she said.

    But Rosalita is not a virgin. She’s come to the clinic to regain what she lost during a recent vacation — a moment of lust, she says, not love.

    Rosalita is from the Dominican Republic and lives in New Jersey with her mother. She doesn’t have a boyfriend right now, but believes she’ll never get married without at least the illusion of virginity.

    Catering to a Culture of Machismo

    She’s not alone. Venegas says several hundred scared young women from many cultures — Latinas, Mideasterners, Chinese, Koreans — have paid her $2,500 each to have their hymens restored. Sure, it’s a business, she says, but what’s behind the practice makes Venegas angry.

    “It’s about machismo, 100 percent,” she said.

    In fact, the hymen is not a reliable marker of virginity. In many girls, it is torn or destroyed during active sports. But that hasn’t tarnished its allure. And even if it’s fake, Stubbs is willing to go along with the ruse.

    When asked whether he believed that by restoring a woman’s hymen he was restoring her virginity, Stubbs said: “Well, what is virginity? Virginity is not well defined.”

    Necessary Deception?

    But, in fact, a woman who’s had sexual relations is not a virgin, and by restoring the hymen Stubbs and other surgeons are allowing patients to be deceptive.

    “Yes. Oh, I agree. I mean, I’m not saying it’s not deceptive,” he said. “But there are little white lies and big lies.”

    That deception is acceptable, says Stubbs, for patients whose culture makes this surgery far more serious … perhaps a matter of life and death.

    A young woman we’ll call Fatima has gone to Stubbs’ clinic. She says she doesn’t like the thought of deceiving a future husband, but says she feels she must.

    “I’m not going to feel comfortable to lie to him. But I guess I have to lie to protect the relationship,” she said.

    Fatima, 20 or so, is from the Middle East and came to the Toronto area with her family as a teenager. A Muslim, she says her family is not observant, but is very traditional. So every time she met with her ex-boyfriend she had to sneak out of the house and lie to her parents.

    Her parents also don’t know that she’s come to Stubbs’ clinic. “I could never ever tell them that, never. I would tell them anything, but not this,” she said.

    Fatima says if she is not a virgin when she gets married she would be humiliated — and maybe killed, perhaps even by her parents.

  6. “What a chump.”

    Seriously. Mariah Carey is pretty much a known golddigger by now. And clearly way smarter than him.

    I’m around the same age, and there’s no way I’d marry a 46 year old. We’re not going to have kids, it’s just sharing a house and having sex for fun. And really, you’re a billionaire. You shouldn’t be short on offers.

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