Suppose if does clear the air, yes

Mr Farage announced an inquiry but said that it was unlikely to lead to suspensions or police involvement.

He said: “I don’t think that a political party can have an incident like this without having a look at it.

“I don’t see any need for the police to be involved, there are no complaints. Somehow I doubt people will be suspended.

“I won’t be on the inquiry myself. I suspect it will blow over and be looked back upon as one of these things that happens between men.”

There will be points for the spotters of feminist diatribes against this gross masculinity.

The point at issue was that there had been some talk of Woolfe moving over to the Tories. As, for an example, a certain DCB had done. Pity the punchee was who it was really.

32 thoughts on “Suppose if does clear the air, yes”

  1. “Mr Farage announced an inquiry but said that it was unlikely to lead to suspensions or police involvement.”

    Then what’s the point of having it?

  2. If that happened in a private sector employer, it’d be right, clear your desk / office, and escorted out in 30 minutes. In the public sector, it’d be maybe more like, right, you’re suspended on full pay while we hold a full investigation and in about 12 months when we’ve found alternative jobs for you on more money, you can resign, move and resume.

    In a political party, especially one which isn’t quite cutting it just now and which, for instance, has an idiot who addressed the European Parliament in jeans, t-shirt and a faded commando’s beret – and another idiot rumoured to like starting fights over a bit of name-calling – this sort of childishness is possibly fatal. Can they be fired for gross misconduct / bringing the party into disrepute?

    Do I want people like that – unstable and emotional, violent and susceptible to rage and irrationality – representing me anywhere? No. Not on any conditions. My MEP is called Hookem. He won’t be getting any support from me in the future.

    Farewell, UKIP – condemned as a joke after all Farage’s hard work which went oftentimes unthanked. Anti-UK / anti-Brexit MEPs have been handed years’-worth of jokes, and a subject for derision.

  3. Bloke in Not in North Dorset in Turkey

    They need to do the time honoured thing: shake hands and go for a pint or 6 (the start again 🙂 )

  4. Lets face it. If Prescott could survive throwing a punch at a member of the public at the ‘Rumble in Rhyl’, and later go on to be deputy PM. A couple of MEPs having fisticuffs between themselves is neither here nor there.

  5. markc–How should one dress to address the grandees in the EP? Not wearing a monkey suit =lese majeste does it?

    If Wolfe had merely thought about switching sides to join the BluLab gang saying nothing would have been his obvious best bet. The only non-moronic reason for opening his gob about same would be that he has taken some action on those thoughts and made some sort of approach to the slime of BluLab. Then when a chance for the top of UKIP suddenly re-appears he would have to say something publically to avoid BluLab doing just that first and his appearing like –not merely a sellout–but a sly sellout. And he is touted as being a potentially good leader ? Not to mention can’t get his form in on time. The sort of stunt that might better come from a half-baked job-seeker applying for a paper round he doesn’t really want.

    Not surprising that tempers flared when others find out what has been going on.

    Are you seriously claiming that the rest of the ego-slime in UK politics–including nasty scum like McConnell and Baldy Reid who got his start as a CP thug–don’t take swings on occasion? They are just better at covering up because they have well-established propaganda arms. “It’s just John” said Bliar re Prescott. –as somebody pointed out yesterday. And the left-controlled press promptly dropped it apart from a little low comedy on occasion. There will be a lot of comedy against UKIP –you are right there. But breaking the left’s media stranglehold will fix that and is long overdue regardless.

    “Do I want people like that – unstable and emotional, violent and susceptible to rage and irrationality – representing me anywhere? No. Not on any conditions. ”

    Then you are a fantasist because that is the human race and esp political scum who are largely its dregs.

  6. Ecks, I really don’t give a shit about what two idiots did, or didn’t do, to each other. On the other hand I care about the way it causes others to think about UKIP / Brexit and the way it provides ammunition to those who’d oppose it. If they want to do stuff in private then like other consenting adults, they should just get on with it and keep it quiet so the investment of time and effort in a cause by less idiotic people isn’t devalued.

    The point about Hookem’s attire is that he looked like a fat middle-aged twat posturing in a t-shirt and jeans, an image beamed, potentially, right round the world – which wouldn’t help, say, the man on the Vienna omnibus, take Brexit seriously. If he’d turned up in a V for Victory mask, I might well have thought “good for you”, but the only joke on that occasion was Hookem himself. If he and Woolfe want to do something good for UKIP and the nation they’d have the decency to resign.

    My opinion of politicians both as a group and severally may be closer to your own that you’d think, but the ability to be rational and to choose not to give way to emotion, rage and violence – or rudeness, in your case – is what marks out the humans from the animals.

  7. If that happened in a private sector employer, it’d be right, clear your desk / office, and escorted out in 30 minutes.

    I don’t see why, unless it’s a large company with a typical spineless femidominated HR department.

    If it happened in my (very small!) company, it would be up to the punchee if he wanted it taken further. If it was all settled with a handshake and a pint, that would be the end of it.

  8. Is referring to someone out of touch with reality as a fantasist rudeness or truth?

    Nor are we very far from the animals.

    Hookem IS a fat middle-aged twat. As is Drunker and doubly so for the new turd who looks like Frankenstein’s monster with his hair parted in the middle Shadmock-style:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqAXEdd48v8

    Are we vapid Hollywood image freaks to give a rat’s arse about the perceptios of far-off omnibus denizens?

    Ah Vienna!

  9. Um excuse me one of these guys could have died and one gone to prison for hommeslaughter. It was only luck that lead to a different outcome. Have an inquiry and discipline them once you know the facts.

  10. So Much For Subtlety

    JuliaM – “Then what’s the point of having it?”

    Ask the people conducting the Child Abuse inquiry in Britain. Given they are running out of lawyers who are willing to go along with the farce, it seems to be beyond rational explanation. I would have thought that it was the lawyers desire to loot the treasury. But then they wouldn’t quit. PR?

    Your guess is as good as mine.

  11. You don’t think that the problem is that UKIP is’nt a proper political party but as somebody, (who should know), said a bunch of “fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists” ?Their present rage and hatred (such an advert for UK interests in the Brexit negotiations) is probably exacerbated by the fact that they have just destroyed their own cosy jobs as MEPS .

  12. Is referring to someone out of touch with reality as a fantasist rudeness or truth?

    Out of touch with whose reality, Ecks? You make the assumption that yours is real 🙂

    Are we vapid Hollywood image freaks to give a rat’s arse about the perceptios of far-off omnibus denizens?

    I’d hoped you might have developed the thought somewhat further but evidently, today is to be charged with micro-disappointments.

    And indeed: Ah, Vienna! Have a happy day, Ecks.

  13. JuliaM
    October 7, 2016 at 9:18 am
    What Machiavelli said…

    You mean “If you do not intend to kill, do not wound”(from The Prince)? Seems appropriate in this case

  14. DBC–Your sheer fucking insolence is mind-boggling. Millions murdered by the scummy creed you espouse and endorse and you talk of the tiny specs in the eyes of others.

    Go back to your 1950s Disneyland.

  15. Everyone* seems to forget that this does happen on a fairly regular basis: Kinnock and Benn got spectacularly ugly on at least one occasion-

    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2015/09/below-surface-labour-conference-all-sides-armed-themselves-future-battles

    Makes yesterday look a bit fucking tame, yeah?

    *well, the BBC at least: listening to the today programme yesterday, you’d think there was a lot more to this than a single punch prefaced by some macho posturing

  16. (Apols it was a Benn supporter, not Benn himself in that tale, but IIRC Kinnock was known for fisticuffs behind closed doors)

  17. >Then what’s the point of having it?

    To dampen things down for now?

    No denying that Woolfe and UKIP are currently snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Personally I’d like to see Raheem Kassam as UKIP leader, that would be popcorn city, but I guess he’s too much of a stirrer for that to happen.

  18. @BiW:

    “I don’t see why, unless it’s a large company … ”

    Because it’s a pretty stupid way to run a company if people think that the guy who considers himself alpha male is going to ask for a square go if you disagree with him.

  19. So Much For Subtlety

    GlenDorran – “Because it’s a pretty stupid way to run a company if people think that the guy who considers himself alpha male is going to ask for a square go if you disagree with him.”

    I don’t know. In my last job there was certainly a member of senior management who was by universal opinion, a c*nt. He could be a c*nt, despite standing 5 nothing, because he knew no one would do anything about it.

    I think a generous policy towards people who clocked the little sh!t would have produced good results all around. It would have done wonders for staff morale and it would have made sure that Senior Managers were polite.

  20. @DBC Reed

    ‘You don’t think that the problem is that UKIP is’nt a proper political party’

    I don’t like pendantry, but you take the fucking biscuit. We are supposed to take seriously the observations of a bloke who knows that there is an apostrophe in ‘isn’t’ but habitually puts it in the wrong fucking place? What else haven’t you noticed, you twat? The Holodomor? The Cultural Revolution?

    The apostrophe denotes the missing ‘o’ in ‘not’, you soft cunt, and not the non-existent missing letter between ‘is’ and ‘not’.

  21. ‘Because it’s a pretty stupid way to run a company if people think that the guy who considers himself alpha male is going to ask for a square go if you disagree with him.’

    It’s how the Army works, at its best, and the Army works better than most businesses!

  22. If the rumours were true, wasn’t it a bit stupid of Woolfe to pick a fist fight with a former Marine?

  23. Can’t remember his name but wasn’t there some Labour MP who kept getting pissed in the House of Commons and lamping other MPs? No-one in the media was suggesting that this marked the end of the Labour party.

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