This is serious fucking idiot stupidity

The Ontario government has proposed a two-year moratorium on the creation or expansion of bottled water operations fed by groundwater in the Canadian province, in a bid to strike a balance between a burgeoning bottled water industry, a growing population and the effects of climate change.

The province vowed to take action earlier this year after a severe drought prompted questions over regulations that allowed bottled water to draw millions of litres a day of water from the province.

“Water bottling is a different kind of industry and we need to treat it differently,” Kathleen Wynne, Ontario’s premier, said as she promised to update the government’s policies. “Thirty years ago, we wouldn’t have envisioned an industry that took water and put it in plastic bottles so that people could carry it around.”

No, really, this is twattery.

Mayor Kelly Linton said last week that Nestle did nothing wrong because it followed the existing rules, which he called on the province to change so municipalities get a better chance at securing a safe drinking water supply than a bottling company.

Nestle would still be able to renew its permits to take up to 3.6 million litres of water a day from its well in Aberfoyle, where it has a bottling plant, and another 1.1 million litres a day at a well in nearby Erin, another community in Wellington county.

Average Canadian household (ie, not including industry or agriculture, the two big users everywhere) water usage is 300 litres per capita per day. Or, for the 14 million or so Ontarians, 4 billion litres a day. They’re fucking about regulating people who bottle 0.1% of that?

It’s an irrelevance.

Worse that that. For if people don’t get a drink of water from a bottle then they’ll get a drink from the tap. Which comes from the same damn groundwater source as the bottled water.

This is the product of idiot environmentalism – allied with people having absolutely no fucking clue.

16 thoughts on “This is serious fucking idiot stupidity”

  1. In the UK you can dig your own water supply in your garden and draw 20,000 l/day of non-potable water without needing permission from anyone.

    You do have to tell the right people that the well exists however.

    If you are on chalk or sand with a water meter and a garden look up “sand point well”.

  2. And we pay (well the Canadians do) these people to do this sort of stuff.

    Peak nonsense. The Canadians (like most of us) are not getting value for money from their politicians.

    It is a symptom of really nothing left to do for these people. But there are lots of them and if they do nothing then people will realise they are no longer so important.

  3. Basing this policy on having “bottled water to draw millions of litres a day of water from the province” is environmental twattery and completely idiotic.

    There would be sense in basing it on the harmful effects of manufacturing, transporting, filling up, transporting, selling, and throwing away of millions of plastic bottles.

    But the twat doesn’t say it. He just thinks that “Nestle steals our water” gets him more votes.

  4. Back in the dark and terrible days, when we were governed by weirdos who believed in all sorts of crazy shit (i.e. God), this proposal would have been dismissed as the deranged nonsense it clearly is.

    However, now that we are ruled by Science in all its peer-reviewed majesty, this sort of deranged nonsense is quite commonplace.

  5. Shouldn’t they pay domestic sewerage rates though? Sewerage rates are charged on the assumption that all water consumed by a household (measured at the water meter) is also expelled by that household. But that doesn’t take into account the additional urine produced by bottled water drinkers.

    Thames Water’s wastewater charge is 81.60 pence per cubic metre. With Nestlé extracting 4.7m litres of water a day, the sewerage companies could shake them down for £1,400,000 a year.

    (This is a tongue-in-cheek suggestion: I wouldn’t want to impose that amount of red tape on any company, even Nestlé.)

  6. “This is the product of idiot environmentalism – allied with people having absolutely no fucking clue.”

    How do you distinguish between those two groups? Would still be a distinction without a difference if “idiot” were dropped (for the sake of clarity).

  7. Bloke in Costa Rica

    It’s my old complaint of journalists, politicians and green fruitcakes being completely fucking innumerate. They have no sense of scale. An inch of rain on a square mile of ground is 14.5 million gallons (imperial) or 66 million litres. So the 4 billion litres a day in domestic consumption is 2.5mm of rain on 600 square miles. Ontario is 415 thousand square miles.

    Yes, of course only a small fraction of that rain is captured, but it’s numbers like this that allow one to calibrate one’s bullshit detector.

  8. Bit of controversy over this in New Zealand at the moment. More because the water bottling companies get the water for free.

  9. Ribro, not quite free but they do not pay royalties on it. It does cost them to extract and bottle. And with possible rare exceptions, everywhere they do so the take is a fractional percentage of the normal off take. The companies also pay taxes and rates.

    The complainers are typical hand out types hoping to screw a bit of money from someone else.

    Interestingly enough, one of the areas where there is complaints is not far from where I am, and I know that it has an unexpected outcome. The bottler sells most of the water into China……where it faked tests for nitrate content and so cannot be sold. That content is natural and not agricultural run off or anything, just what the water is like in that acquifer. Someone wasted a fair bit of money in that scheme.

  10. It’s an irrelevance in environmental or water supply terms.

    But nothing is an irrelevance to the left’s endless power grab over peoples’ lives. The nomenklatura have decided that bottled water is “not necessary” so who are we to argue?

  11. There is a BBC story from May 3, 2016 on the same subject, but set in California. The amount of water taken and bottled barely registers as trivial. My guess is that this is the latest chapter in the “Whatever Nestle Does is Evil” story, which (I think) began in the 1970s when they were said to be giving away infant formula in Africa and Asia.

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