And here are Paul Mason’s thoughts

No, not really Paul, not really:

Leave aside the Wall Street dinners, the email servers and the pneumonia: it was ultimately Hillary Clinton’s gender – symbolised by the “pant suit” – that was too much for some male voters, college-educated or not.

It’s that Hillary reminded everyone of their mother in law. That mother in law that the first dearly beloved spouse was divorced to get away from.

50 thoughts on “And here are Paul Mason’s thoughts”

  1. Clinton was visibly sexually excited at the extra judicial killing of Gadaffi.
    She is a dangerous psychopath and those not caught up in her ‘charming aura’ recognised this and voted accordingly.
    Those who were deluded into thinking otherwise will have a hard time coming to terms with reality but her behaviour over the next few months/years will betray her.

  2. Bloke in North Dorset

    “it was ultimately Hillary Clinton’s gender”

    Complete bollocks. If a Maggie Thatcher had stood for the GoP she’d have wiped the floor amongst white males with any of the proposed Dem candidates. She’d probably have stolen quite a few Dem voters as well.

  3. “Leave aside the Wall Street dinners, the email servers and the pneumonia”

    And the foreign funding, incompetence, hammering Blackberries, ill health that has dogged her for years, an obscene sense of entitlement and that she is a Clinton.

  4. If he knows the real secret motivations of voters, how comes he couldn’t predict the result?

    Or form a new political party and stand for election. With his personal insight into the motivations of voters he would sweep to power at the first general election.

    But that would involve putting his own money where his mouth is.

  5. Encourage them to keep assuming that it was her sex that was the problem, chaps. It’s for the best that they stay cocooned in their stupidity.

  6. Squander Two

    “My preferred candidate was Fiorina. That makes me sexist?”

    Voting R makes you that, and every other kind of ist & phobe.

  7. In a democracy, everyone gets to vote. Even ‘some male voters, college-educated or not.’

    So what is his point? Even if his absurd hypothesis were true – ‘it was ultimately Hillary Clinton’s gender’ – so what? People get to vote for what they want to, whether he or anyone else approves of their reasons.

    Standard Lefttard. Democracy is good, unless the people don’t vote they way they “should.”

  8. Here’s an idea… try putting forward another woman.

    The middle-class left are constantly worshipping at the alter of Hillary Clinton. But, she was always seen as a liability to Bill and couldn’t beat the new kid on the block for the nomination. And frankly, they should be ashamed of themselves for getting behind someone who got there on her husband’s coattails.

    Oh, and now they’re talking about getting Michelle Obama to run.

    Someone get Condi on the ticket. I would LOVE it if she was the first female prez. Apart from being highly capable, the Guardian/NYT would have a massive strop.

  9. “Someone get Condi on the ticket. I would LOVE it if she was the first female prez. Apart from being highly capable, the Guardian/NYT would have a massive strop.”

    Didn’t you get the memo? Rightist women who become national leaders aren’t really women, so they don’t count. Do you think that the US media et al would say ‘Everyone must vote for Rice because she’s a woman’ (which is what they’ve said about Hillary)? Of course not, they’d demonise her just like all other Republican candidates. Her gender wouldn’t come into it.

  10. > Rightist women who become national leaders aren’t really women, so they don’t count. Do you think that the US media et al would say ‘Everyone must vote for Rice because she’s a woman’ (which is what they’ve said about Hillary)? Of course not, they’d demonise her just like all other Republican candidates.

    Yes, but that’s the media. The people aren’t that stupid.

    My favourite example of this is that UKIP won their first Scottish victory during the Scottish Referendum campaign.

    SNP: “We shouldn’t be ruled by some unaccountable elite in a distant capital who know nothing about our country.”
    Electorate: “Good point.”
    SNP: “No, no, we meant London. London! Brussels is fine for some reason.”
    Electorate: “No, it was still a good point.”
    SNP: “What the fuck are you doing, you ignorant racist bastards?”

  11. So Much For Subtlety

    Bloke in Wiltshire – “Here’s an idea… try putting forward another woman.”

    Here is a better idea – tell them to f*&k off. Why play on the ground of their choosing? If you submit to a bully, you empower them.

    We should ignore everything feminists and the Left have to say on every subject. Perhaps even do the exact opposite of what they want. We cannot win on their chosen field. They must play on ours.

  12. Not my mother-in-law. She doesn’t have a smart phone let alone a private server. She has never lied to cover up her culpability in the deaths of diplomatic staff (or anyone else) and she definitely hasn’t solicited donations to a charitable foundation in return for access.

  13. That pursed mouth didn’t remind me of my ex-Mother-In-Law. It is pure ex-wife. And she (ex-wife) is a psychopath.

  14. I object to the title here.

    It is plainly obvious that when it comes to politics and economics, Paul Mason does not have thoughts in the conventional understanding. What he has is a bank of recycled dogmatic assertions, which he wheels out like a robot novel writer and which are becoming increasingly agit-prop in nature.

  15. “Didn’t you get the memo? Rightist women who become national leaders aren’t really women, so they don’t count. Do you think that the US media et al would say ‘Everyone must vote for Rice because she’s a woman’ (which is what they’ve said about Hillary)? Of course not, they’d demonise her just like all other Republican candidates. Her gender wouldn’t come into it.”

    Yeah. That’s why it would be such fun (I also genuinely think she’d be very good in the job).

  16. Naomi Wolf commented on R4 this morning that gender had very little to do with the result she acutely sounded quite reasonable about the whole matter and made some sense.

    But then Emily Thornberry came on and was asked,considering all the event shock election results, if it was worth putting a few quid on Corbyn to win a general election and she struggled to get a straight answer out.

  17. “Leave aside the Wall Street dinners, the email servers and the pneumonia……what have the Romans ever done for us?

  18. Cynic

    >I see Hillary as more like that batshit HR manager you try to avoid.

    Agreed 100%. Even her initials are H.R., which rather gives the game away.

    BTW Ah’m luvvin’ the continuing luvvie meltdown.

  19. @ Noel Scoper

    “So much fun…. BBC luvvie lets rip.”

    So much hatred from a man who only got his job through nepotism.

  20. > We should ignore everything feminists and the Left have to say on every subject. Perhaps even do the exact opposite of what they want.

    Camille Paglia endorsed Trump.

    To be fair, there is quite a lot to the accusations of sexism. I mean, why the fuck is Bill Clinton still so popular?

  21. So Dan Snow “checked his privilege”, did he? Good boy. Can we get a nice lead made for him? Not too long, we don’t want him to wander too far, it might be dangerous. A couple of metres, maybe. We could decorate it with sparkles, if he wants.

    Good dog, Dan. Good dog! Dan, fetch! Fetch for the identity group!

  22. “Non-college educated white males” are the backbone of the Labour Party’s support in the UK. I do sort of feel sorry for the Left – they clearly loathe the people they rely on for votes, and find them completely incomprehensible.

    Especially now that these “non-college educated white males” are finally understanding and Labour’s support is slowly leaking away.

  23. “To be fair, there is quite a lot to the accusations of sexism. I mean, why the fuck is Bill Clinton still so popular?”

    Because Bill Clinton was an alpha male who all the women fantasised about, when he was Potus of course, not the current haggard, waiting for death version. Bill was the equivalent of the school sports hero who just happens to be an academic genius too and writes poetry in his spare time,who can do no wrong with the girls, and can behave caddishly and still be forgiven.

    Whereas Trump is the equivalent of the class fat bloke who tries to buy female attention with his wealth and connections. It gets him so far, but nothing like the range of behaviour that people are happy to excuse when done by Bill.

    Life’s not fair, basically.

  24. Leave aside the Wall Street dinners, the email servers and the pneumonia: it was ultimately Hillary Clinton’s gender – symbolised by the “pant suit” – that was too much for some male voters, college-educated or not.

    It’s hard to read something like that and not laugh out loud.

  25. Whereas Trump is the equivalent of the class fat bloke who tries to buy female attention with his wealth and connections.

    Succinct. Politics is show business for ugly people, and sport for the unfit.

  26. Whereas Trump is the equivalent of the class fat bloke who tries to buy female attention with his wealth and connections. It gets him so far, but nothing like the range of behaviour that people are happy to excuse when done by Bill.

    Trump gets to got home with Melania. Bill gets to go home with Hillary. I know which one I’d rather go home with.

  27. Or as another Scotsman put it “losers whine about ‘doing their best’, winners go home and fuck the prom queen “

  28. Whereas Trump is the equivalent of the class fat bloke who tries to buy female attention with his wealth and connections. It gets him so far, but nothing like the range of behaviour that people are happy to excuse when done by Bill.

    Nope, much simpler than that: Bill is a Democrat.

  29. So much fun…. BBC luvvie lets rip

    Ah, yes. Dan Snow (St Paul’s, Balliol)
    Tribune of the Poor

    Because Bill Clinton was an alpha male who all the women fantasised about, when he was Potus of course,

    As was commented when he addressed the Labour Womens’ Conference once – “Not a dry seat in the house”

  30. “If he knows the real secret motivations of voters, how comes he couldn’t predict the result?”

    He ‘knows’ the motivations of voters only in retrospect. The explanations of economists and evolutionary biologists tend to be retrospective, too, though theirs are at least partly empirical – unlike Mason’s ‘theories’.

  31. So, let’s take them at their word. It was sexism. The “deplorables” couldn’t bring themselves to vote for a woman.

    So the solution is easy. The DNC-Media complex coaxes the Repubs into running a lady candidate. The DNC runs a man.

    If the sexism theory is true, then all the deplorables will flock to vote for the Dem because sexism.

    Right? Right? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

  32. Mal Reynolds (Serenity)

    Leave aside the Wall Street dinners, the email servers and the pneumonia: it was ultimately Hillary Clinton’s gender – symbolised by the “pant suit” – that was too much for some male voters, college-educated or not.

    “Leaving aside all the reasons for not voting for Hillary, it was actually because of *insert lefty ad hominem buzzword*”

    This guy gets paid to write this…

  33. @Mal,

    Well, it’s really the same as the “leaving aside all the reasons socialism doesn’t work in practice, the human rights abuses etc, socialism is really great”.

  34. “Leaving aside all the reasons for not voting for Hillary, it was actually because YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF MISOGYNISTIC RACIST PRICKS. Agghhh, God, did it really happen? REALLY?…(Weeps)…Christ, maybe it didn’t happen, I’ll check Twitter…Twitter?…NO!!!…Please, where’s Lilly Allen’s Twitter feed? WHERE IS LILLY ALLEN’S TWITTER FEED?…(sobs)”

    Continues at length.

  35. The one thing that has been entirely absent from the debate as far as I can tell, is that this is Obama’s legacy. This is the America he has shaped for eight years and the one he will leave behind once he leaves office. As they say, this happened on his watch.

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