Ignorant twattery – but then it is the Mail

Hard-pressed taxpayers have been told they must foot the £369 million bill for repairs to Buckingham Palace, but the Queen is keeping a tight hold on the purse strings when it comes to her own outgoings.

The Royal Household is advertising for an experienced, qualified gardener who will be paid £17,000 per year — which works out at £8.72 an hour for a standard 37-and-a-half-hour week.
However, the successful applicant will, in fact, be paid less than £17,000 because they will be obliged to live in, the cost for which will be docked from their salary.

Sigh.

Living rent free beside St James’ Park will mean you’re on less than living wage will it?

25 thoughts on “Ignorant twattery – but then it is the Mail”

  1. “but the Queen is keeping a tight hold on the purse strings when it comes to her own outgoings.”

    NOO!!!!!

    Oh hang on, isn’t this the sort of thing the Mail would normally demand of public servants?

    It’s another example of the fact that Mail readers just want to whinge about something, they aren’t particularly bothered what it is or whether it is consistent with what they were whinging about last week.

  2. but the Queen is keeping a tight hold on the purse strings when it comes to her own outgoings.

    Apart from 100% of the revenues of the Crown Estates, which go straight to the Treasury so they can be pissed up the wall on politicians and diversity advisors.

  3. Presumably there won’t be a shortage of applicants, as a few years of ‘Working for HM the Queen at Buckingham Palace’ won’t do the CV much harm either………….

  4. Oh, bugger. You get to be a gardener, in the best gardens where no-one is going to skimp on the best stuff, probably for a rather nice employer AND you’re in the middle of London.

    There are jobs people like doing, OK? Is this that hard to understand? I know a chap who is an archaeologist. When he’s not on a dig, he does temp work, but the temp work pays more. And he gets a dig and quits the job and makes minimum wage. Drives his Dad to drink, but that’s the life he’s chosen.

  5. I’m not seeing anything to support the ‘obliged to live in’ claim. Being provided with single accommodation (seems to be be included) with some charge for private digs is a pretty damn good deal. I presume the applicant could live elsewhere if they wanted. And I’m sure that pound an hour extra would pay for a nice little two up, two down next door?

  6. That is a dream job. I would absolutely love it.

    I used to know a caterer who went for these sorts of jobs whenever she could. Got a job being the live-in cook for a foreign prince living in one of the “houses” on the Chelsea Embankment. I put “houses” in quotes because, once you get inside, it is revealed that the place is a palace. She was on a crappy wage, but being paid to live in some of the grandest accommodation in Britain. Loved it.

  7. If the true value of accommodation beside St James’s Park were deducted from that salary, the geezer would end up owing Her Maj a tidy sum

  8. If, as we are repeatedly told, our overseas aid budget of £12 billion is “a drop in the ocean”, then presumably 0.3% of that is,er, ^2×3/5xFA as my maths teacher used to write.

  9. Looking back through the Daily Mail’s archives, we find broadly the same story from 2014:
    Fancy working in Buckingham Palace? Job opening for ‘household assistant’… but the £14k salary won’t see you living like a royal
    • Basic salary is £276.92 per week, but accommodation and food is included

    In other words that’s £14k of pure spending money. Granted it won’t pay for a family life, but I hear that palace jobs tend to appeal to men who aren’t the marrying kind.

  10. Free pension, decent holiday and recreational benefits sounds ok to me.

    “You will be rewarded with a comprehensive benefits package, including 33 days holiday (inclusive of Bank Holidays), a 15% employer contribution pension scheme (with the option for flexibility – to increase contributions or draw down as salary), meals provided, training and development, as well as a range of recreational facilities. In addition, as this is a live-in role, you will be provided with single accommodation, and if eligible, be able to apply for self-contained accommodation, for which your salary will be adjusted.”

  11. Sounds awesome for either a lonely old guy who loves gardening or or young bloke who wants to live in London.

    The complaints are the same bullshit you hear about McDonalds not paying enough money to raise a family: It’s not supposed to be a career you dumb fucks.

  12. The test of this will be the number of applications. I expect there will be a very large number of them.

    Unless, of course, you believe the narrative that these poor souls will be the desperate starving millions in the unemployment blackspot that is Central London.

  13. It’s possible to work your way up at McD’s just like anywhere else. My niece rather annoyed my brother by refusing to go to uni and taking a job at KFC. Within a few years she was running the shop and she’s just moved to a better paying post at the local McD.

    She’s never going to be a millionaire, but she’s happy and enjoys her work and looks like having a job for as long as she wants to do it.

  14. Bloke in North Dorset

    I don’t know if its still the case, but everyone who went to work for McD had to spend time on the shop floor. We had an IT guy leave to work in corporate HQ in London and he had to spend his first 2 weeks flipping burgers.

    I also had a Cpl working for me once whose wife ran a couple of McD restaurants in Poole, she was earning a lot more than him, and he was a fast track techie.

    As others have said, this looks like an entry level job and there may be some unspoken perks. From what I understand everyone who works at Buck House or has anything to do with it is very popular with tourists. An Irish Guardsman I knew was never short of female company when they were on royal duties.

  15. Rob,

    “The test of this will be the number of applications. I expect there will be a very large number of them.”

    The Forestry Commission get some very highly qualified and experienced people who just want to be outdoors, have made their money etc.

    I’ve met all sorts of people who reach a certain age and “drop out”. I know a programmer who became a coach driver. He absolutely loves it. Takes kids and old people on trips and to the seaside.

  16. Dear Mr Worstall

    Factor in the accommodation and free food, the location, the employer, the neighbours, ‘sleb status by association etc etc – a job worth paying for.

    If good enough, stay to retirement and one will be well looked after. Otherwise a few years or decade or two, leave with references for a dream job anywhere.

    DP

  17. > I’ve met all sorts of people who reach a certain age and “drop out”. I know a programmer who became a coach driver…

    This is what pisses me off about train drivers. They’re doing what most kids would consider a dream job, and they still have the gall to complain about the pay & conditions. The number of applicants is huge too.

  18. ‘She’s never going to be a millionaire, but she’s happy and enjoys her work and looks like having a job for as long as she wants to do it.’

    “You will never get rich working for someone else.” – GC

  19. Sounds like a great job to me. Low pay but good perks and outdoors, nice environment. Ideal for a single youngster (as long as you are allowed guests in your digs, in which case fill your boots with exchange students) or confirmed bachelor with modest tastes.

    During school and university, I had a summer job with a grounds maintenance company. The firm had a contract for schools etc and it was all fairly straightforward mowing, hedge-cutting etc. Pay was not great but more than fine for a youngster spending the summer at home and I got fit, strong and tanned. And nothing to do on rainy days except smoke fags and banter. Happy days.

    Not sure GC’s comment above is entirely correct. You won’t get mega rich working for someone else but I have plenty of corporate mates raking in a nice six figure salary. And running a company is a right royal pain in the arse I can tell you.

  20. MC,

    > as long as you are allowed guests in your digs

    Not a chance. Far too much of a security risk. From the original job ad:

    In addition, as this is a live-in role, you will be provided with single accommodation, and if eligible, be able to apply for self-contained accommodation, for which your salary will be adjusted.

    It’s single accommodation. A single bed, not a double. You can’t even bring your wife, let alone bring a random girl home after a date. I don’t know about the self-contained accommodation, but I still can’t imagine they’d let you invite any Tom, Dick, or Jihadi John round for tea without security clearance.

    Besides, it’s standard for these jobs. If you’re a live-in housekeeper or nanny or cook or whatever, you live in the basement or the attic and you do your best to stay out of sight.

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