It’s just weird, weird

The weekend’s developments in France support that thesis. What seems likely is that the people of that country will be faced with a choice between a Thatcherite opponent of the welfare state and a far right neo-fascist in the 2018 presidential election.

Firstly, he has no clue about the French electoral system. There will be a Socialist candidate, a Communist one (if not several, the Stalinists and the Trots usually put one up each, if not more), Macron will try to come through the middle and so on. That none of these are likely to make the second round is up to the French electorate of course.

But more than that there’s that idea of Le Pen as “far right.” You couldn’t get a fag paper between her economic ideas and those of Spudtollahs’ co-author, Colin Hines. And the idea that the author of The Curajus State would be against fascism lite is simply ridiculous, it’s what he’s actually preaching.

Do these people simply have no self-knowledge at all?

Anyone got a link to an official list, in English, of FN’s economic suggestions? Be fun to run it off against Ritchie’s proposals…..

35 thoughts on “It’s just weird, weird”

  1. Anyone got a link to an official list, in English, of FN’s economic suggestions? Be fun to run it off against Ritchie’s proposals…..

    Be more fun to slip the policies into the joke comments by fascists, which seem to be well received on the LHTD’s site.

  2. No shit. And everyone in the FN leadership is either A) a Jew B) gay C) a gay Jew. MarineLP’s ‘boyfriend’ being A..

    Some fascists.

  3. Not, I am afraid, in English.

    http://www.frontnational.com/pdf/Programme.pdf

    However, if you go to “Economic and Social Recovery” on their website, Google Chrome translator does a reasonable job of letting you know they are economic leftist protectionists.

    There is one glimmer of sense:

    Ten years after its introduction in the daily life of the French, the Euro as a single currency is proving to be a total failure despite the blindness of the supporters of the Europe of Brussels and Frankfurt who refuse to admit the obvious. Indeed, the euro will disappear because the cost of maintaining it becomes all the more unbearable days to nations where it is totally inappropriate. The euro has since its origin an economic aberration denounced by many economists. The tinkering and successive bailouts to save the euro will not solve the crisis. It is therefore an orderly dismantling plan of the euro which must now initiate.

  4. Meanwhile….

    Richard Murphy says:
    November 28 2016 at 7:26 pm
    Around 400,000 do not file Companies House documents a year

    The 98% claim is a lie by Companies House. They can sue me if they want, because that data is rigged and I will win.

    Time for an FoI request to bring this challenge to the attention of Companies House I think.

  5. Most of this would meet with his approval

    “Industry, employment and taxation:

    -Huge investment in re-industrialisation of France which would be overtly protectionist and counter to the EU’s free trade ethos.

    -A toughening of import duties to protect French manufacturers.

    -Support, including tax breaks, to small and medium-sized business.

    -Simplification of the tax code with an income tax ceiling of 46% for the highest earners, coupled with a decrease in employment tax.

    -A reduction of VAT to 5.5 percent for essential goods, and an increase beyond the current percent nor non-essential luxury products. “

    http://www.france24.com/en/20140528-france-national-front-policy-eu

  6. In this time of goodwill to all men, could we perhaps all club together to buy Murphy for Christmas a white reinforced cotton jacket with leather straps to bind his arms behind his back?

  7. “Some fascists.” There was no problem with Jews being fascists: Jews were over-represented in Mussolini’s party. It was only when he started snuggling up to Hitler that some anti-semitism was adopted.

  8. So Much For Subtlety

    Paul Rain – “And everyone in the FN leadership is either A) a Jew B) gay C) a gay Jew. MarineLP’s ‘boyfriend’ being A..”

    Well not many Nazis were Jewish but a lot were Gay. Remember Johan Hari’s claim that all post-war neo-Nazi leaders have been Gay.

    So this is not that helpful.

  9. ‘Far right’ is always pretty lefty economically, just also being nationalist. Half of the Nazi’s 25 point plan could sit in a Green Party or SNP manifesto and no one would notice. It’s remarkable they get called right-wing at all really.

  10. Timmy,

    Slightly off-topic, but one of the comments on RM’s blog reminded me: have you come across “More United”? They’re a crowd-funded left/bubble political movement. Their promotion video is quite possibly the most metropolitan elite thing I’ve seen in a long time.

  11. Andrew M

    The video makes me want to throw up/scream/pull my hair out! Do you think that was their intention?

    Truly wondrous. I have reached the point now that when somebody claims to be progressive, I give them a wide berth. Generally, claiming progressiveness is a passport to intellectual laziness. The video oozes that in spades.

  12. As an asute American pointed out on instapundit, “In Europe, left wing means international socialist, right wing means national socialist”. Well observed, I thought.

  13. I’ve just wandered in from a discussion with a French colleague over the “guardienne” – sort of a concierge – in his apartment building. She has been in the post for 35 years, and enjoys a salary of 22k Euros per year with a total cost of employment – which includes annual training – of 38k per year. She wants to retire next year and go back to her native Portugal: the residents are on the hook for that, too.

    There’s a lot of sorting out to do in France.

  14. “She wants to retire next year and go back to her native Portugal: the residents are on the hook for that, too.”

    Er, what?

  15. Sounds like the building management are on the hook for her pension, why bother going to the trouble of investing in a proper pension scheme when you can just get the residents to pay for it?

  16. TimN
    I’ve long suspected France will be the first major EU country to go under. Their economy is crap and they keep electing communists. Being up to their hips in jihadis doesn’t help either.

  17. Bloke in North Dorset

    Andrew M,

    From that article (my emphasis):

    But he claims that some banks and building societies are refusing to give mortgages to prospective buyers because a clause in the original leasehold agreement means owners are liable to pay ground rent to the freeholder that will spiral to £8,000 a year.

    Whatever happened to caveat emptor? Didn’t the seek legal advice before buying? Its hard to have sympathy even in our fucked up housing market.

  18. One of those buyers saying they only found out it was leasehold a few days before the sale. She studied Law at university! If I was buying a house it would be one of the first things I would want to know.

  19. AndrewM
    What’s carefully omited from the story is that they would have got their mortgages through the developers pet lender, who is no doubt well aware the properies are almost unsaleable and is expecting the loan to be repaid when the leaseholder reposes. A blatant racket. BiND, they used the developers solicitors and he didn’t think to mention it. Rachman would be proud. I wonder how many times they can sell the same house?

  20. Incidentally, it will take 50 years for the ground rent to ‘spiral’ to 8k which might not be unreasonable in 2066 depending on inflation. That’s not the problem. The problem is that it is unsaleable. To all intents and purposes, the ‘owners’ are renting. You can live in it or you can walk away, but you can’t get any capital out of it. Also not mentioned is the size of the deposit, typically only 5% buying from the deloper through his morgage company, so they haven’t lost that much. Yet.

  21. Sounds like the building management are on the hook for her pension, why bother going to the trouble of investing in a proper pension scheme when you can just get the residents to pay for it?

    Yup, she’s an employee and hence entitled to all the nice things employees in France get from their employers.

  22. A blatant racket. BiND, they used the developers solicitors and he didn’t think to mention it.

    To be fair to the French, they’d never allow this to happen: it all goes through the notaire, and he’d be on the hook for keeping anything like that quiet.

    The French might be sending their economy down the toilet, but I did like their system of buying property.

  23. The other thing that would happen in France, assuming that clause was even legal, is the freeholder probably wouldn’t be able to collect: the courts would side with the tenants/owners regardless of what the contract said just as a lesson for developers who want to act like cunts.

  24. Doubling every decade is 7% annual growth, so not quite as steep as at first glance, although still fairly eye watering.

  25. Jonah Goldberg has a bit of shtick: take out the genocide and invading Poland bits, and then ask the average Democrat which part of the Nazis’ policy platform they disagree with.

  26. BiCR beat me to it. It also holds true for the British Labour Party.

    Jonah Goldberg, BTW, is well worth the read.

  27. So Much For Subtlety

    Bloke in Costa Rica – “Jonah Goldberg has a bit of shtick: take out the genocide and invading Poland bits, and then ask the average Democrat which part of the Nazis’ policy platform they disagree with.”

    Don’t even have to take out the hating Jews bit for the modern Labour Party.

  28. TimN

    The other thing that would happen in France, assuming that clause was even legal, is the freeholder probably wouldn’t be able to collect:

    As is the case here, even the article mentions it:

    If the parties are unable to agree terms through negotiation then the leaseholder would normally exercise rights they may have under the Leasehold Reform Act 1967 whereby the purchase price is set by a tribunal.

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