Nope, still not getting it

But what often gets forgotten is that Trump was not just mocking a disabled person; he was mocking a disabled reporter.

This is important.

Trump’s bigoted attack on various groups can’t be separated from his attacks on the press. As demonstrators take to the streets to defend civil rights, we all need to remember that civil rights struggles depend on the right of a free press to cover the story. Trump isn’t just dismissive of huge sections of the population; he is openly hostile to anyone who questions his authority and offers a competing view of the world, which is why reporters are one of his most frequent targets

Trump’s election will mean the end of the free press essentially.

And of course Salon just isn’t getting it. The entirety of the American media was deeply in the tank for Hillary. I saw more than one piece at major outlets arguing that, well, Hillary doesn’t seem to be doing so well so should we as reporters just openly call Trump a fascist lying sack of shit?

This was done in the name of protecting media’s traditional objectivity.

It’s because all could see you were already drooling over Hills that the attacks on you happened and also why they worked. If you had been objective then it wouldn’t have.

63 thoughts on “Nope, still not getting it”

  1. Whereas mocking and insulting 50% of the US population is just fine and dandy. Because those that are insufficiently left-wing are undeserving of decorum.

    Thinking about it, “basket of deplorables” was far, far worse than Romney’s 47% comment. The former was deliberately insulting; the latter was just spun to be so by the media.

  2. The Inimitable Steve

    Yarp.

    But also: the OMG DRUMPF MOCKS DISABLED REPORTER!!!11!1 video got hung around his neck like an albatross, but ever wonder why we never saw a video of the disabled reporter? That would’ve been really powerful stuff.

    It’s because Trump wasn’t mocking his disability. He was mocking him for being flustered and caught in a lie, and Trump – who is a very animated public speaker – did his “nervous nellie” impression. He did the exact same thing re: Ted Cruz.

    He wasn’t mocking the disabled reporter’s disability by flapping his hands, because that reporter’s disability has nothing to do with spastic hand movements. He has a condition similar to arthritis, which means he doesn’t flap at all, his mobility is severely limited.

    Funny how the “free press” never mentioned that, eh?

  3. ooh i did like her Colbert quote.

    “Here’s how it works: The president makes decisions. He’s the Decider. The press secretary announces those decisions, and you people of the press type those decisions down. Make, announce, type. Just put ’em through a spell check and go home. Get to know your family again. Make love to your wife. Write that novel you got kicking around in your head. You know, the one about the intrepid Washington reporter with the courage to stand up to the administration. You know — fiction!”

  4. “As demonstrators take to the streets to defend civil rights…”

    At which point you can conclude “cunt”, and stop reading. As so many people are, it seems.

  5. “there were multiple reports of Trump supporters attacking and insulting the press. And in one extreme example, a Trump supporter tried to terrorize the press with a swastika.”

    Uh? How exactly was that done? Surely they don’t mean he’d cut the symbol out of heavy steel plate, razor sharpened the edges & mounted it on a 10ft pole. Why am I getting the image of ravening vampires cowering before a priest brandishing a cross, out of some old Hollywood silent?

  6. PJF

    As demonstrators spoilt brats and opportunist criminals take to the streets to defend civil rights intimidate innocent people and smash things up then set them on fire in the name of peace and love …

    A handy summary here, penned by the excellent and very funny Jim Goad.

  7. This is all press misinformation; It starts with Trump stating that on 9/11 muslims were seen celebrating on the other side of the Hudson. He was called a liar by WaPo, his team looked into the source of Trumps claim and lo and behold it was an article in WaPo. When called out on this WaPo set about damage limitation. The Journalist at the centre of the spastic controversy was the one who wrote the article that Trump quoted and the disabled slur was just a deliberate set up by the WaPo to divert attention from its own disreputable behaviour.

    I think Trump is a bit of a loon, but he doesn’t deserve to be slandered by the holier and though US press.

  8. ‘As demonstrators take to the streets to defend civil rights’

    Voting is a civil right. The vote didn’t go the way they wanted. They are protesting AGAINST civil rights. Rather obviously. But duh press can’t comprehend.

  9. As the Inimitable Steve says, this is nonsense (and I hate defending Trump).

    Of course, we all remember the press going after James Hansen after he suggested climate deniers should be locked up. Right?

  10. ‘If you voted for Trump because he’s ‘anti-establishment,’ guess what: You got conned’ – Washington Post

    Trump election: the gift that keeps on giving.

  11. I’ve heard it said that mocking disabled people is wrong because “it’s an easy target”.

    Well, so was Dresden.

    I mean, if you try and mock someone who is virile handsome rich intelligent popular and strong you’ve got your work cut out.

    Easy targets. Hit ’em.

  12. AndrewC,

    It depends what you’re targetting them for. You can play the man rather than the game. You might even defeat them. But the observers won’t think much of you for it.

    On the other hand, I’ve had people give me like “oooh, dodgy” when I’ve gone after things Stephen Hawking has said. Having MND is fucking horrible, but bad ideas should be shot down, whether they come from disabled people or little girls who volunteer in puppy rescue centres.

  13. Bloke in Costa Rica

    “[…]Trump was not just mocking a disabled person; he was mocking a disabled reporter [italics in original]”

    Oh do fuck off. No really. Just fuck right the fuck off. Fuck off. Git tae fuck. Fuck yourself. Failing that, go and get fucked.

    He was mocking a reporter, you say? Sacré bleu!. Zounds! By Odin’s beard this blasphemy shall not stand!

    FUCK OFF!

  14. I am really struggling to understand the libertarian love currently being showered on Trump, in these pages and elsewhere.

    – He’s an enemy of free trade (of both the current Realpolitik free trade with bureaucratic organisations like the EU and paleo-mercantilist China, and of ideologically pure libertarian-style free-trade)

    – He’s an enemy of open borders and immigration.

    – He’s planning to unleash massive, unfunded government spending programmes that will make Roosevelt look fiscally continent (watch the stock market).

    – He wants ‘muricans back in satanic mills, making heavy things to drop on feet again and will raise immense protectionist trade barriers against the world to achieve it.

    – He admires Putin.

    – There are only feeble signs of any concept ofsocial liberty or individual freedom.

    In short, the guy seems to be a socialist fascist, possibly (hopefully) with less killing of foreigners aforethought. He is certainly the most left-wing president the US has seen in some time. Please help me understand, all you self-identified liberals and libertarians out there, what you see in this guy.

  15. The election was very close and Clinton won the popular vote. It’s possible that, had Comey not done what he did, she would have won the election.

    However, it’s also the case that the rural turnout for Trump was way higher than expected, based on previous elections. The rural preference for Trump was always clear, but not the extent to which rural voters would turn up at the polls.

    Neither candidate was well liked. Neither received as many votes as Romney (the losing candidate!) received in 2012. But by the same token, Hillary did not come close to turning out as many Democratic voters as Obama did.

  16. @dearieme,

    I grok that. But a self-identified liberal or libertarian, given this dreadful choice between two almost equally inappropriate individuals, should be able to look past Clinton’s manifold personal flaws (it’s not as if Trump is entirely free of corruption and compromise), and realise that she is a rather better fit to that agenda than Trump.

  17. BiG

    “I am really struggling to understand … what you see in this guy”

    Mostly that he makes leftie heads go splodge all over the sidewalk.

    “He is certainly the most left-wing president the US has seen in some time.”

    And yet the left universally loathe and despise him – confusing isn’t it..;)

  18. – He’s an enemy of open borders and immigration.

    Open borders is stupid.

    He’s not against immigration; he’s against invasion. Your inability to see the distinction is a character flaw.

  19. @PF – agree totally.

    Was discussing with some leftie anti-TTIP friends. They couldn’t compute that Trump will likely kill TTIP. Can’t accept that there is a minutia of agreement there because he is surely Satan from Hell itself.

    @Gamecock,

    The true libertarian knows no borders,
    Not for themselves – by extension not for others either.

    I’m beginning to think most of the so-called “libertarians” here are actually self-interested rather than the ideologues they claim to be.

  20. – He’s an enemy of open borders and immigration.
    Who thinks open boarders and illegal immigration are good ideas?

  21. ‘The true libertarian knows no borders,
    Not for themselves – by extension not for others either.’
    Sorry, I didn’t realize that God had appointed you to decide who the true libertarians are. From what I’ve seen of Libertarian thought, open boarders is a contentious issue. Many who espouse it say that it would only work if there was no welfare state. Otherwise those arriving are imposing on those there without their consent.

  22. Biggie–there is no current “free trade” because all present political pigs are enemies of it. Trump is no worse for wanting managed trade that doesn’t export jobs at the same time as importing cheap labour to undercut what jobs there are. He is wrong in his opposition to free trade but what are you suggesting as the alternative. The present shite for all time?

    Open borders are fine for numbers of zero welfare skilled migrants. Massive numbers of freeloaders imported to vote for socialist tyranny and help extinguish freedom altogether? Trump doesn’t go far enough. No votes for any migrant who has not been in country 100 years. That way–if you and your family have been good and productive people you are in. Wasters and crims?–you will be still out after 100years.

    Protectionism and govt spending? Very bad ideas but once the economic shit hits the fan they will ALL do that the world around. Because they are political scum. There is a chance that Trump may learn and change as circs unfold. None of the present others–anywhere in the West–perhaps the world–has the gumption.

    Doubtful Trump “admires” Putin. But he respects what he is capable of–which is a good idea. No-classing your enemies is always fucking stupid.

    He is the best of a bad lot. His plans might bring the house of cards down but it is coming down soon anyway. That Trump isn’t a full-on free-marketer may be to our advantage.

    Anyhow it is still better than a tyranny boosting, white-hating Marxist cunt. Just like Obama.

  23. The Inimitable Steve

    The true libertarian knows no borders

    No true Scotsman could be against hordes of foreign rapists swarming into his country.

  24. Bloke in North Dorset

    Looks like the NYT has at last understood the issues:

    The publisher of The New York Times penned a letter to readers Friday promising that the paper would “reflect” on its coverage of this year’s election while rededicating itself to reporting on “America and the world” honestly.

    Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr., the paper’s embattled publisher, appealed to Times readers for their continued support.

    “We cannot deliver the independent, original journalism for which we are known without the loyalty of our subscribers,” the letter states.

    New York Post columnist and former Times reporter Michael Goodwin wrote, “because it [The Times] demonized Trump from start to finish, it failed to realize he was onto something. And because the paper decided that Trump’s supporters were a rabble of racist rednecks and homophobes, it didn’t have a clue about what was happening in the lives of the Americans who elected the new president.”

    Sulzberger’s letter was released after the paper’s public editor, Liz Spayd, took the paper to task for its election coverage. She pointed out how its polling feature Upshot gave Hillary Clinton an 84 percent chance as voters went to the polls.

  25. BiG-
    Yeah the anti nafta/ tpp free trade thing is a big no-no. Especially if that sets things off in that direction here in the UK.
    Donald’s anti war side was bang on. But not much good if you don’t trust him. Which i don’t think anybody does, on anything but being true to his big man character rather than any given policy line. And there are umpteen things out there including needing something for re-election that would mean things said in 2016 seem a very long time ago.

  26. “I’m beginning to think most of the so-called “libertarians” here are actually self-interested rather than the ideologues they claim to be.”

    Who are these people I wonder. Not me, Mr Ecks, the Inimitable Steve. Mystified.

  27. The truth is no one gives a fuck about the “true libertarian” vote. They’re scarcer on the ground than hen’s teeth.

  28. @Fecks,

    Thanks for a (for you) relatively sane comment.

    A lot of this boils down to the “what is free trade” question. Tim (rightly, as an ideological libertarian) opposes the EU-type free trade because it has 100,000 pages of legislation which doesn’t correspond to any definition of freedom. In other words, it’s crap because it’s less good than the best imaginable system.

    I support it (rightly, as a utilitarian liberal) – in the mean time – because it’s achieved some form of functional and valuable multilateral free trade for the first time since the Roman Empire (the British one tried the same but honestly doesn’t count because of the vast asymmetries involved). In other words, it’s great because it’s the least worst system we’ve come up with to date.

    It’s also totally valid that open borders and generous welfare systems don’t mix – something that leftists have never understood. Guess what – like most (real) liberals, and taxpayers, I am not a fan of generous welfare systems. That said – you cannot have the safety net that you or I, god forbid, might need someday, that cannot be abused or defrauded at all, or claimed on by immigrants. I’m an immigrant in Germany. And I pay tax and social insurance for half a dozen average Germans. That should be the decider at payout time, in the unlikely event I make a claim. Not the fact that I am a hated “immigrant”.

    Where you would have a few armies of little microhitlers checking every claim in inordinate detail, I would (utilitarian) say it’s cheaper to tolerate a little fraud and freeloading, and to honour the (perhaps ill-advised) commitments your government has made to people. What the ideologue libertarians would say, I have no idea.

    On government spending, I can’t help but feel we are failing to learn from Japan’s mistakes. The world over. Obamastimulus failed catastrophically at incalculable expense. Trumpstimulus is different how?

    @Hallowed,
    I am not sure Trump has an anti-war side. Iran will be his challenge, and the middle east’s challenge. Every president since JFK has had an insoluble foreign policy challenge.

    Most of the Sunni middle-east (Jordan excepted) has fucked itself back to the 8th century. Saudi will soon be finished on the current oil price. Iran is rising. As a regular visitor to Israel I am concerned that the misguided but understandable political direction there, combined with Trump, and the nuke deal, is going to do bad things to both of those countries. Two countries that, absent mad mullahs and fanatic settlers, would rub along rather better than they do today.

  29. Bloke in Costa Rica

    @Bloke in Germany:
    “The true libertarian knows no borders”
    “fanatic settlers”

    So you’re pro-immigration, as long as they’re not Yids? Got it.

  30. Bloke in North Dorset

    BiG,

    “I support it (rightly, as a utilitarian liberal) – in the mean time – because it’s achieved some form of functional and valuable multilateral free trade for the first time since the Roman Empire (the British one tried the same but honestly doesn’t count because of the vast asymmetries involved). In other words, it’s great because it’s the least worst system we’ve come up with to date.”

    I for one would have been quite happy with the Single Market including free movement of EU citizens but it has become a Trojan Horse for at worst socialism and at best micromanagement of the details of our life to the point of making it intolerable (see today’s example of baby milk powder) all because they know what’s best for us.

    But they can’t keep their fingers off the legislative button and despite the warnings went ahead with the Euro and continue on the road to an ill defined “ever closer union”, which will only bring more meddling.

  31. …should be able to look past Clinton’s manifold personal flaws…

    Hmmm… selling out the national interest while a sworn public servant (at Cabinet level, no less!) in exchange for personal gain is one I have rather a tough time looking past.

  32. Ecks,

    A welfare state and open borders don’t concern me. Make welfare available only available to citizens and job done. What does concern me are environmental laws, and I don’t want our air and water like China’s or India’s, and the cost of labor. While I don’t know of anything better, in practice, than the EPA to prevent pollution labor costs are simple. Shift the tax burden to capital, fix healthcare, not insurance, and switch to UBI and watch as labor costs to business fall. Immigration simply is not a major issue if we take care of our own programs.

    Hallowed Be,

    Anti-war side and “bomb the shit out of them” don’t play well together.

  33. Germany,

    Speaking only for myself, I’ve said for months that both candidates are almost unimaginably awful. I came to the conclusion in the last couple of weeks that Clinton was marginally worse, but it was close. So I’m not enjoying the Trump win, but I am REALLY enjoying the Clinton loss. And you know what? Had it gone the other way, I’d be REALLY enjoying the Trump loss. I’ve realised that an election in which every choice is utter shit is actually brilliant.

  34. Biggie–it isn’t a “few migrants” is it?

    They are trying to import millions and subsidise a breeding program designed to replace white people as the majority. It is becoming more obvious that they aren’t going to succeed but the battle is far from over.

    As for the trade deals they can shove them. The mess we have now is no benefit to anyone aside from political piggies. People have been trading across Europe and the world since the stone age, often despite political scum not because of them.

    LY–China and India are semi-socialistic shitholes which is the cause of their environmental issues. As for the EPA , were I Trump I would personally lead a couple of thousand blokes armed with pick-axe handles to their HQ and beat, bash and hammer the shit out of the whole bunch of scummy, marxistic eco-freak wannabe dictators. Followed by the burning down of their building–probably spreading toxins from a crap govt building far and wide.

    The rest of your program is way too vague to criticise or even follow..

  35. @BiCR,

    The west bank settlements are orders of magnitude more complicated than “yids moving in”. It’s depressing “realpolitik” rather than the ideal world in which people rub along and sell each other stuff. Religion is involved, and a good deal of “my religion’s older than your religion” countered by “but my religion beat the crap out of yours 1000 years ago”. Tamed by the usual trade, employment, friendships, rivalries, and even the odd intermarriage which both sides try to stop.

    There isn’t a government there to oppose it. I think you have to go there (no idea if you have) to even scratch the surface of how insoluble that problem is. I don’t pretend to understand it, but the liberal in me says the Palestinians should have a state. Should have set one up 70 years ago when they were asked to and could have done it. The utilitarian says, if they have anyone to blame for not having one, it is Jordan rather more than Israel (the Jordanian [mal]administration of the West Bank between 1948 and 1967 is totally ignored for some reason). On the other side of the country, no one (not even the Egyptians) wants the world’s best surf-free beach (Gaza). That tells you all you need to know.

  36. @Ecks,

    Please provide me with the “few migrants” quote. It looks like you are returning to form and putting imaginary words in the straw mouths of those you think are your enemy because they aren’t in lock-step with all of the more strident of your opinions.

    Both left and right have to relearn the art of consensus with those you don’t have 100% agreement with.

  37. @BiCR,

    If you want my idealistic solution, it’s this: Israel annexes the west bank and settles it with the descendants of all the Jews kicked out of ME/NA. Which is roughly the same (original) number as Arabs questionably displaced from Mandatory Palestine. So you have a population swap, or at least bilateral ethnic cleansing.

    Ask a Muslim Israeli Arab which country they want to live in. The answer, which I don’t have to spell out, is always the same.

  38. The MSM is owned by a small collection of oligarchs.

    BiND – the NY Times is owned by Carlos Slim the richest man in the world and a Mexican monopolist; for example he owns the only telecommunications company in Mexico.

    He gets richer the more money and vitality is sucked out of the US. No shit his paper was virulently anti-Trump.

    The Washington Post is owned by Jeff Bezos, the CEO of Amazon… etc…

  39. @Bloke from Germany,

    “If you want my idealistic solution, it’s this: Israel annexes the west bank and settles it with the descendants of all the Jews kicked out of ME/NA. Which is roughly the same (original) number as Arabs questionably displaced from Mandatory Palestine.”

    That has already happened. In fact, Jews kicked out of Muslim countries formed the backbone of the ruling Likud party. It’s worth mentioning that they were viewed as inferior and all but spat upon (or maybe even spat upon) by the Ashkenazic Jews who created the state and who formed the center of power for so many years.

  40. Ecks,

    China and India being more socialist has nothing to due with business not disposing of waste properly.

    Propose an alternative to the EPA. The court system won’t work unless people without capital can access it. Make it too easy to access and sue happy Americans will shut down every business.

    What is so hard to understand about raising capital gains rate relative to labor, UBI, and healthcare, not insurance, reform?

  41. The election was very close and Clinton won the popular vote. It’s possible that, had Comey not done what he did, she would have won the election.

    Or Comey could have recommended prosecution back in July, as he would have for anybody not named Clinton.

    If a business leader met on the tarmac with the AG, there would have been hell to pay from the people who bitch about the 1%. Hillary’s husband does it, and how dare anybody be critical of it.

    I voted for Gary Johnson (Hillary would have won my home state of NY by double digits in any case), but I also realize that Trump is merely bad while Hillary is downright disastrous for the rule of law. (Besides, there’s a much greater likelihood the legislature will try to reassert itself under Trump than they would have under Clinton.)

  42. @PSS,

    They are indeed still trying, with mixed results, to settle the West Bank. Well aware of the internecine conflict between the European and Sephardi Jews there.

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  43. @Bloke in Germany: the “Palestinians” could have had a state at any time since about 1947, and certainly since the Oslo Accords. The one, inconsequential proviso by which they would have needed to abide is to stop trying to erase the Jews from the face of the Earth. That’s it. Refrain from attempting to engineer a second Holocaust and shazam! Palestinian State.

  44. So Much For Subtlety

    Bloke in Germany – “I am really struggling to understand the libertarian love currently being showered on Trump, in these pages and elsewhere.”

    Well I am not a libertarian but the love of Trump seems to me to have a lot to do with his enemies and their inveterate dishonesty. Everyone loves an underdog – especially when their opponents are a corrupt, self-serving, dishonest, irrational politically correct establishment. Everyone except tools of said politically correct establishment.

    So I have no problems seeing why you are not cheering.

  45. So Much For Subtlety

    Bloke in Costa Rica – “That’s it. Refrain from attempting to engineer a second Holocaust and shazam! Palestinian State.”

    Well that is obviously not it. It would need an Israeli partner too. And Israel has been consistently in favour of a lack of peace. They say otherwise but they don’t want peace. The only way to make peace is to drag both sides, kicking and screaming, to the peace table.

    All the terrorism does it make it impossible for any Western politician, any sane Western politician, to sacrifice his own political capital to help the Palestinians. It is not that Obama and others haven’t wanted to try. It is just that it is a lot of pain for a group of people who blow up children. All of which enables Israeli leaders to make empty statements about peace they have no intention of fulfilling so that they look like the good guys.

    They aren’t. They are the fairly less evil bad guys.

  46. So Much For Subtlety

    Bloke in Germany – “They are indeed still trying, with mixed results, to settle the West Bank. Well aware of the internecine conflict between the European and Sephardi Jews there.”

    And so, for the record, as a pro-immigration kumbaya sort of guy, are you in favour of:

    1. Unlimited immigration of Jews to the West Bank and/or
    2. Unlimited Rights of Return for all the Palestinians in the world thus making Israel a Muslim-majority state?

  47. @BiG
    I don’t think you’ve twigged what a lot of us pragmatic-libertarians have twigged. And I suspect a large proportion of US voters have, as well. In some ways there’s parallels to Brexit here.
    The Dems – with the aid of their media pals – were quite happy to lie Clinton’s way into the White House. Whatever it took. Now it’s all very well to talk about truth & honesty, but in the real world truth & honesty gets you nowhere. BiW says above “You can play the man rather than the game. You might even defeat them. But the observers won’t think much of you for it.” Which game are you talking about, there, BiW? Indoor bowls” The observers of most popular games recognise the important thing is winning. Cutting your opponent’s legs from under him, blind side of the ref, is legitimate tactics.
    Trump seems to have a healthy lack of principles in an arena where principles are worth nada. We all recognise he’s lied because lying works. But we all knew what we were going to get from Hillary. Same as we all knew what we’d get from Remain. More of the same. Probably an accelerated rate of more of the same, because an assent vote will be taken as an increased mandate.
    In this atmosphere, that Trump’s an acknowledged liar is a huge plus point. He understands how the game’s played. And there’s no necessity to take any of the pledges he’s made in the campaign at face value. Because they were lies. There’s absolutely no reason not to believe he’ll be a president, good for America & good for the world. He looks like being a pragmatist. Like us.

  48. So Much For Subtlety

    Bloke in Germany – “Ask a Muslim Israeli Arab which country they want to live in. The answer, which I don’t have to spell out, is always the same.”

    But that is not the question is it? Ask them what policies they would support if they were in the majority.

    The West is being overrun by people who are fleeing their own dysfunctional, failed, societies. They are fleeing to the West because Western culture works. It produces good societies with healthy economies. The problem is that they, or at least too many of them, want to recreate their own dysfunction in the West. They are a cuckoo in the nest. The future does not look bright for the other fledglings.

    Israel’s continued existence as a civilised country depends not merely on a Jewish majority but likely an Ashkenazi majority.

  49. Incidentally, I think there’s something a whole lot of people are missing here. Trump’s going to be a one term president. He doesn’t need the job & he doesn’t need the money. He just wants to write his name into the history books as the man turned America around.
    This is going to give him a helluva advantage with the Republican Party. In 2020 the GOP’ll be wanting to field a winning candidate or they’ll continue to be side-lined until the end of the decade. And they’ll need a successful presidency. Trump won’t give a fuck who they choose because he equally detests & is detested by all the GOP factions. He’ll want to be endorsing a winner.
    On the other side, looks likely the Dems will be tearing themselves apart for the next 4 years. Shades of UK’s Labour. They could even find themselves a Corbyn. They certainly won’t be a coherent or even popular opposition. There may not even be a Dem party by the late 20’s.

  50. SMFS – The Israelis have no need to settle for peace. They outgun the Palestinians a thousand to one.

    We can go on about the land ownership, the promise to give the Jews a home (22a high street Jerusalem perhaps?) and so on.
    But ultimately the people whose land it was got moved. Sometimes with conditions attached.
    You’ll move me over my dead body! then 5 seconds later the guy in charge asks the remainder of the family if there are any more conditions to be met now this one has.

  51. Bloke in Spain – perhaps they can have a two year program to find the next apprentice for Trump. Starting say in 2019 early in the year.

  52. Bloke in North Dorset
    November 13, 2016 at 7:00 pm

    Looks like the NYT has at last understood the issues:

    ========================

    I had seen that letter posted elsewhere. Just for grins, I went to NYT.com today and looked.

    There were 54 mentions of Trump. Virtually all were negative.

    Sulzberger’s letter is noise.

    But it’s a good business decision to ignore Sulzberger. NYT has lost all it’s readers who were interested in the truth. The remainder doesn’t want NYT to change. Sulzberger’s claimed change would put them out of business.

  53. Just checked NYTimes.com again. Now that they are printing just truth:

    Trump Is Criticized for Hard-Right Pick

    Trump Trolled Us All. We Should Learn From It.

    Globalism: A Far-Right Conspiracy Theory Buoyed by Trump

    Campuses Confront Hostile Acts Against Minorities After Donald Trump’s Election

    Where Will Trump Stand on Press Freedoms?

    Many there worry that Mr. Trump will set the city back.

    How Trump Won, Thanks to White Voters

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