There’s something wrong in a society like this

White working class boys are the worst performing ethnic group in the country, new research has showed, with three-quarters failing to achieve five good GCSE grades.

For there really is something wrong when the indigenes, the backbone of the nation, are fucked over like this.

My own view is, and I would emphasise that this is not the result of detailed research, that it’s the system itself doing this. You know, that one that has been run by the left for 80 odd years? For the left does and has had since WWII a fierce grip upon the entire education system. On the grounds that said education system must be fair, equitable and the method by which we wipe out that historic inequality.

You know, the inequality by which the working class didn’t get a fair shake?

The result of which is the indigenous working class not getting a fair shake?

Perhaps we need to revisit this left wingery in the education system then?

22 thoughts on “There’s something wrong in a society like this”

  1. Possibly many white working class parents don’t see the value in education so don’t encourage their kids?? Indians and Chinese immigrants being the polar opposite.

  2. “White working class boys”

    This is the group of people who built just about everything in the world that actually worked as intended. Good luck in a world without them.

  3. What you have left out, is that white working class culture has been changed over the last eighty years by the false incentives of the benefits system, the villification of traditional masculinity and the rise of the single mother. Poor immigrant families who outperform them value boys more highly and are often patriarchal in structure.

  4. The other thing to remember is that as a group white working class boys just tick too many of the wrong boxes for lefty educationalists to get excited about working to change outcomes. I mean they are the future enemy, probably best they don’t do well at school.

  5. When it comes to the state education system I am very much in favour of the Ecksy purge. With extra punishment beatings.

  6. Probably dates from when they banned clips behind the ears, though it pains me to say so.

    I can still remember someone heading down to the front of the class towards the headmaster, Mr Crompton, with his cane (or big ruler?) in hand.

    I’m not saying that corporal punishment is the best or only way to go, but it’s definitely the *cheapest* way to get the desired behaviour.

  7. So Much For Subtlety

    Ben S – “I’m not saying that corporal punishment is the best or only way to go, but it’s definitely the *cheapest* way to get the desired behaviour.”

    Boys just don’t like sitting in the classroom. Beating them when they misbehave is certainly part of the solution. But so is more exercise – we need bigger sports facilities and more play at recess. So it accepting that not all children are suited for class room time and so having some real alternatives like a genuine apprenticeship. There is no point keeping someone who ought to be in work in the classroom where he will be bored and disruptive.

    In the end I expect that teachers’ bigotry is no small part of the problem though.

  8. They changed from an exam based system (that favours boys) to a continuous assessment system (that favours girls).

    They changed teaching reading from traditional methods to Jolly Phonics, this has raised generations of native English speaking children who cannot read or write properly.

    Science, Technology and Maths are more resistant to ‘new’ teaching methods but they are making inroads (as you can see by the boys results falling as the girls results rise).

  9. Words of Wisdom from the Jackal-Heart.

    Still whining about Brexit son?

    Fuck off and go get your head squashed again in some Rugby
    sc(r)um.

  10. The predominantly white working class I have been working with for decades are certainly not morons. They know plenty, and produce good ideas.
    Unfortunately their language skills are awful, so they have difficulty expressing their thoughts. If you actually make the effort to understand them you will come to the same conclusion as me.
    If you try to put them down you will likely succeed- they have no debating skills whatsoever.

  11. When I examined this in the 1980s and again around about 2000 there was a subset where the thinking was: I’m White English, I don’t need to try, I’m a native, I’ll get stuff ‘cos I’m a native.
    With a bit of: Why study, I’ll just walk straight out of school straight down’pit/into’t factory/into’t mill/etc, there’s no point. though this has eroded into: Why study, I’ll just walk straight out of school onto the dole, there’s no point.
    Along with a bit of: Nah! Studying’s for poooofs!
    There’s no one cause.

    And yes, some of this is *encouraged* by the education system. I knew somebody who moved to a new area and was checking out local schools for his children. At one school he was told: no, we don’t put our kids through ‘O’ levels, ‘cos you know, there’s no point with kids in this area.

  12. “This is the group of people who built just about everything in the world that actually worked as intended.” As long as somebody else supervised them carefully.

  13. “Boys just don’t like sitting in the classroom”

    But they’ll do it, if they’re properly disciplined and the teaching is to their (competitive) strengths, not some load of girl-friendly co-operative all-must-have-prizes bollocks. That’s what turns the boys off.

    Oh and the fact that almost all teachers (especially at primary level) are women – what message do you think that sends?

  14. Regression to the mean.
    After class rigidities (OK, somewhat exaggerated) for hundreds of years, followed by social mobility (grammars) after WW2 a lot of folk climbed out of the working class.
    They left behind the thick ones, or the very conservative who distrusted education as a means of alienating their children.
    Assortative mating among this group has kept them thick for 3 generations.
    But regression to the mean will not be denied for ever, so in another few generations we might get another burst of social mobility.

  15. This seems to be comparing the white working class to other races without separating out the working class from the middle class – so white working class boys are being compared to all black boys, not to black working class boys.

    Secondly, indigenous populations in most English-speaking countries are the ones that do worst in school…

  16. Richard Gadsden: “Secondly, [Anglo] populations in most English-speaking countries are the ones that do worst in school…”. Worse than Northeast Asians- yes. Worse than highly selected Brahmin types- yes.

    But not worse than Paki/Bangladeshi factory workers, or some mixed up Carribean. The fact that British boys have had their natural achievement suppressed this much is criminal.

  17. dearieme

    ““This is the group of people who built just about everything in the world that actually worked as intended.” As long as somebody else supervised them carefully.”

    Of course, but many of those people were the talented ones that climbed from the working classes.

    Generations of welfare and ‘modern’ education has robbed these people both of ambition, and the ladder to climb. All the pathways the used to exist have been closed off to a large extent.

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