Timmy elsewhere

At CapX on the living wage:

That figure was then weighted by household size – and it’s here that things became problematic. A family of two adults and four children (like that Worstall clan of a generation ago) requires £1,040 a week in order to not be deemed poor. But £52,000 a year is not a useful definition of poverty in a country where median household income is £25,000. Not even if we measure by equivalised households.

9 thoughts on “Timmy elsewhere”

  1. Interestingly, then, their 2 +4 figure is almost exactly 80% of the highest salary I’ve ever been paid. Earnings have regularly been more, especially now I work for myself, but the highest basic salary I’ve ever been on was £65k.

    And on the military side, £52k is a third year Major’s pay and more than you can get, basic, as a Warrant Officer.

  2. So most of the time that I was the sole breadwinner, with wifelet at home (or, after #2 son started school, an unpaid volunteer for a local charity) we were in poverty?
    During that time I saw *real* poverty and felt embarassed by how little I could do to alleviate it.

  3. So…. the SJW are out there screaming that if you want to have children you must ensure you’re on £50k+ before sprogging? Enforced reversable sterilisation for anybody on zero or basic rate tax?

    Thinking about it, it’s not all that strange a position for left-wingers to take.

  4. The rule on no more child tax credits for new claims for 3+ children comes in on 06.04.2017 – so anyone who already has 2+ children on welfare now and has procreated in the last four months will be unable to feed their family to the satisfaction of the justice warriors when the baby arrives.
    And none of the charities or down with the poor people political parties is saying a thing. Because they don’t want to prevent poverty by getting people to change their behaviours, they actually want poverty, and then they can tell us how awful it is.
    What the UK has is tax poverty, as our host has said often. It’s about time that division of labour principle was applied to the tax system, and the non-working spouse can transfer his allowance to the partner that does or can get higher value work. That would lift a few kids out of poverty.

  5. @ Andrew Carey
    About twenty years ago I was a Consultant deemed a “Senior Expert” by EU PHARE and the SJWs claim that we were in poverty despite my earning an income well above the median.
    If I was cynical I might ask whether this meant that the SJWs wanted higher pay for people like me.
    Poverty is when you don’t know where the next meal is coming from, not when you use have to use a credit card to pay for a meal in a restauant because you haven’t earned it yet.

  6. Bloke in Costa Rica

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: if you are not suffering from beri-beri you are ipso facto on a living wage.

  7. “£52,000 a year”: I can’t be bothered to check, but that must be roughly the top of the university lecturers’ pay scale.

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