Well done to the BBC here

According to the WMO analysis, 16 of the 17 warmest years have been recorded this century. The only exception was 1998.

Clunky, no?

36 thoughts on “Well done to the BBC here”

  1. “16 of the 17 warmest years have been recorded this century”
    How do they know – the 16th year this century isn’t over yet.
    (The year 2000 was in C20, not C21, wasn’t it?)

  2. Ever the question: compared to what?

    The whole issue is rate of warming, not overall increase over time.

    This is where the pack of charlatans and liars conflate entirely different things to deceive.

    We were told that the rate of increase was going off the charts whereas the rate has not increased since 1995 and actually fell last few years.

    It is like the difference between speed and acceleration.

    If a car accelerates from 0 to 60mph in 3 minutes, then holds a steady speed for 10 minutes, then its highest speed out of 13 minutes will have been recorded in the last ten minutes, and if the car then decelerates to 55mph over 5 minutes, its highest speeds out of 18 minutes will have been recorded in the last 15 minutes.

    And of course there is a significant difference between a car accelerating at say 10 mph/ph and one accelerating at 1mph/ph.

  3. Anyway it annoys me they don’t use it. Is that now the convention for journalists or do they just not realize there is a degree symbol?

  4. I’m afraid you are all a little behind the curve.
    The confusion is between “degrees centigrade” and “Celsius” which is not helped by the fact that they both use a capital C.

    Celsius (which does not have a degree symbol) is the SI unit.

    It is, give or take the measurement of an accurate base point, essentially just a renaming.

  5. Yes, they ought really to use °C. Mind you, it’s been decades since I saw C°, which was a useful notation that might have saved many dim journalists a lot of embarrassment if it had still been in use.

    Do note, it’s never °K nowadays. Oh dear no.

  6. DJ

    View source (in your browser), find “try this” and he did:

    23 & deg ; C (removing the spaces).

    Preview works:

    23°C

    And the semi colon seems redundant?

  7. Candidly you are all trolls

    As I have proved in the Green New Deal to which I contributed.

    Technological innovation is no longer necessary.

    As I have often pointed out.

    Yet you ignore this

    I wonder why

    That will be your last contribution here

  8. I’m afraid I’m happy to go without the symbol, a casualty of the keyboard era.

    Meanwhile, I continue to promote:
    “Fahrenheit for Summer, Centigrade for Winter”

    Like the good old days.

    It’s not much of a cause, but everyone should have at least one.

  9. Bloke in Costa Rica

    PF et al.: no, the semicolon is the end of the HTML escape sequence which is started by the ampersand. It’s needed to tell the parser when to stop encoding. The full format is

    & #<decimal unicode entity> | #x<hexadecimal unicode entity> | [<textual entity>] ;

    So, for example, the standard trademark symbol ™ can be input as &trade;, ™ or ™.

    Here’s hoping TW’s comment code doesn’t re-encode the ampersands.

  10. BiCR

    OK, we’ll give it a try.

    With semi colon:

    23°C

    Without semi colon:

    23&degC

    Preview is showing them both correct at the moment, let’s hit post.

  11. “I’m afraid I’m happy to go without the symbol, a casualty of the keyboard era.”
    Use a US International keyboard & the ° symbol can be yours. As are proper ¼,½ &¾ all the áåçéöøñ & much more ߧð¿

  12. BiS

    One problem with the yankee keyboard is that it doesn’t even do a £ sign – which is pretty basic stuff.

    The é and ° above are simply alt keys. If one didn’t have an azerty keyboard on the continent, one ended up learning these (alt 130 and similar especially) for the occasions needed. And much quicker / easier for occasional use than changing from qwerty.

    Here’s a list:

    http://tools.oratory.com/altcodes.html

  13. So Much For Subtlety

    They need to jack up the fear. People are not buying this nonsense any more. Everyone knows it is probably not true. So they have to double down and hope that this time they can provide either enough public disquiet or enough bullsh!t figures for the politicians to support policies that they want passed.

    The obvious question to ask is whether this is before or after they have massaged the figures. Given in my neck of the woods it is observably wetter and cold than in the 1980s and 1990s, I assume they have massaged them a lot.

    Still it won’t matter as Trump has declared Global Warming nonsense and he is likely to withdraw. The world won’t warm. The oceans will not rise. The deserts will not grow. Simple as that.

  14. “The obvious question to ask is whether this is before or after they have massaged the figures. Given in my neck of the woods it is observably wetter and cold than in the 1980s and 1990s, I assume they have massaged them a lot.”

    Based purely on the UK, I think its proven fact that the ‘rise’ in average temperatures is entirely down to a rise in minimum temperatures, rather than a moving upwards of both max and min temperatures.

    Climate in the Uk has in recent years (last 20 say) become more temperate – less extremes of hot or cold. We haven’t had a blazing summer for ages – I think there was one back in the early 00s, since then nothing but cooler and damper summers. Winters have generally been milder and wetter too, though we did have a couple of cold ones around 2010.

    There is however no sign whatsoever of what was predicted – heatwaves and droughts becoming the norm.

  15. The thirties (unadjusted data when the job of weatherman required accurate reading not interpreting in the light of climatological dogma) of the last century were warmer still.

  16. “One problem with the yankee keyboard is that it doesn’t even do a £ sign – which is pretty basic stuff.”

    AltGr+Shift+4 gets £ on mine.

  17. Incidentally, if anyone else wants to graduate to a keyboard you can do some proper writing on, there’s a seller on e-bay will provide you with some key overlays give all the AltGr options when applied to a US keyboard. Costs a couple of quid.
    Then you can 2²×3³×÷µ to your heart’s content

  18. Bloke in North Dorset

    Jack C,

    Meanwhile, I continue to promote:
    “Fahrenheit for Summer, Centigrade for Winter”
    Like the good old days.

    It’s not much of a cause, but everyone should have at least one.

    When I read that I though you were off your rocker, but after a bit of though I realised that its a great suggestion.

    You have a convert and new member to to your cause. Perhaps you should start an online petition.

  19. “Ever the question: compared to what? ”
    ” The whole issue is rate of warming, not overall increase over time… ”
    and the acceleration/ speed example.

    I am late to this so you may not see it, but thanks JohnB.

    Your explanation reminds me of the sort of content in John Brignell’s book “Sorry Wrong Number”.
    Prior to reading that book (an easy read) I knew I was being fed BS by the media but wasn’t smart enough to be quite sure how. The book fixed that.

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