Yep, this is politics

US president-elect Donald Trump said on Thursday Ford Motor chairman Bill Ford had just told him the automaker had decided not to move production at a Kentucky plant to Mexico.

“I worked hard with Bill Ford to keep the Lincoln plant in Kentucky. I owed it to the great State of Kentucky for their confidence in me!” Trump said on Twitter.

The plant never was going to be moved to Mexico. It isn’t being moved to Mexico. But what a victory, eh?

27 thoughts on “Yep, this is politics”

  1. So Much For Subtlety

    I think there are two interesting things about this. One will be GM. Trump can do little about Ford – but it is nice to see them co-operate with the new President and earn themselves some Brownie points – but he can do a lot about GM. Rumour has it GM could have got out of its debt problems if it sold its Detroit HQ and moved out to the suburbs. But Obama said no. Black votes matter.

    The other one is how Trump continues to talk over the heads of the gate keepers in the mainstream media and directly to his supporters through things like social media. No doubt this drives the New York Times mad, but why do we need them when we can read everyone’s Tweets from Trump to IS?

  2. I think that the MSM are never going to learn how to deal with him. He’s just going to let them flail madly at him, will poke at them occasionally, and discredit themselves utterly.

  3. It is remarkable what the US media is doing. The election has shown that there a considerable portion of the media’s market are “Trump favourable”. But they’re determined to alienate that portion of their market.
    But, then, the Graun’s done the same, hasn’t it? With the result the market it’s got left isn’t enough to sustain the paper.
    It’s almost as if they don’t understand how the business of selling a product works

  4. So Much For Subtlety

    The other thing worth noting in that article is that this factory employs just over 4,500 people. It is not like the massive car factories of yesteryear. Whether or not people lose jobs to Mexico, they will lose jobs to Intel.

    In a sense it is a choice: they can have lots of jobs or they can have well paying jobs. Most of us prefer well paying jobs.

  5. “the Graun’s done the same, hasn’t it? With the result the market it’s got left isn’t enough to sustain the paper.
    It’s almost as if they don’t understand how the business of selling a product works”

    Every time I mention that someone reminds me that the website is the biggest news site in the UK. It certainly draws in a lot of the faithful, and the click bait articles also guarantee a large number of people who are there to argue. Maybe they are planning to move more into online in future and are confident they can generate more revenue that way? Who knows..they must have a plan.

  6. So Much For Subtlety

    bloke in spain – “The election has shown that there a considerable portion of the media’s market are “Trump favourable”. But they’re determined to alienate that portion of their market.”

    Having convinced themselves, and their remaining audience, that Trump is Satan personified, they can’t turn around now and admit they were wrong. Their self respect demands doubling down. The question is how long can the media, and Hollywood, survive when they are run by people who hate their core audience.

    Admittedly Obama has been going all over the world in order to reassure everyone that he and his surrogates were lying through their teeth about Trump.

  7. @bis

    Graun Online now has very decent viewing figures, interestingly. Above the Mail online these days, and since most of the Mail’s online offering is sleb magazine stuff, the Guardian is by some distance the “newspaper” getting most British eyeballs online. Presumably some of these must be outside the paper’s traditional social/political milieu. More importantly, they mostly remain untempted to actually go out and buy the dead wood so I don’t know how much good they’re doing financially.

    I suspect the Guardian has got there largely by default. The Beeb has a very similar offering to a very full online paper and lots of actual papers don’t seem fused about competing with it for sheer reading numbers, they’d rather make a bit from a paywall. If the Telegraph wasn’t insistent on dumbing down and hadn’t page-limited readers so much, and the Times (which behind its paywall I’ve heard has kept the quality up) was free to all, I imagine that would have eaten into the Guardian’s lead somewhat.

  8. One of the best things Trump did was take off on his own plane leaving the press on the tarmac. They thought he was obliged to bring them along, bless their dear souls. Of course, they presented this as evidence that Trump is attacking the press, i.e. not giving them free trips in his plane. It’s hard to wonder what sort of mind thinks Trump owes the press anything.

  9. Well yes, MBE. And our bar could probably pour a lot of potato peel & vodka cocktails if they were giving them away for free. The question is, could the Graun attract the same on-line readers if it joined the other rags behind a paywall? Maybe their begging bowl tactic will work out for them. But I wouldn’t put money on it.
    And aren’t a very large proportion of the Graun’s page loads outside the UK? Nice of them to provide philanthropic support to worldwide socialism but it’s not going to pay for Polly’s gardeners, is it?

  10. but it is nice to see them co-operate with the new President and earn themselves some Brownie points

    Why is it nice? If it were TEAM BLUE using the bully pulpit of the presidency to get companies to do things, people here would be having shit fits.

  11. So Much For Subtlety

    bloke in spain – “And aren’t a very large proportion of the Graun’s page loads outside the UK?”

    The rumour is that 85% of their pages are not viewed even once.

    Ted S. – “Why is it nice? If it were TEAM BLUE using the bully pulpit of the presidency to get companies to do things, people here would be having shit fits.”

    Google and Facebook didn’t even have to be asked.

  12. “It is remarkable what the US media is doing. The election has shown that there a considerable portion of the media’s market are “Trump favourable”. But they’re determined to alienate that portion of their market.
    But, then, the Graun’s done the same, hasn’t it? With the result the market it’s got left isn’t enough to sustain the paper.”

    At least the Guardian has a (diminishing) pot of gold to draw from. Aren’t the US networks dependent on advertising? They are actively calling half of their customers thick racists.

    If ordinary people acted like SJWs and boycotted them and watched Fox instead they’d be fucked big time.

  13. “Apparently (Guido) Milo may be appointed White House press secretary. Glorious days ahead!”

    If that is true then that rates “Zen Master” on the Trolling Scale.

  14. And if anyone in the media objects, denounce them as openly homophobic bigots.

    Give them their own medicine, good and hard.

  15. Ed Lud, Milo’s been taking his ‘Dangerous Faggot’ tour round US college campuses to expound on the theme that feminism is cancer. This has not been taken well by campus SJWs with somewhat predictable, and often hilarious, results – e.g. the Trigglypuff. He also refers to Trump as ‘Daddy’. His appointment as Press Secretary would indeed be epic trolling, but I suspect an unproductive provocation, and he probably wouldn’t want the job anyway.

  16. “At least the Guardian has a (diminishing) pot of gold to draw from.” All garnered by tax avoidance, of course. Or ‘tax evasion’ as many of their writers would call it.

  17. Trump lives rent free in the minds of the NYT editors.

    Just wait until he starts to gold-plate everything he finds in there. Although maybe that won’t take that long, given the general vacuity exhibited by these minds.

  18. Thing is, all it will take is a coupld of high-profile appointments of gays and ethnic minorities who have clearly been appointed cos they’ll be good at the job, and the media will go into full “destroy” mode on them. Totally transparently.

    Which won’t be good for the media. Boo hoo, cry me a river, petals – you built this!

  19. “The rumour is that 85% of their pages are not viewed even once.”
    Interesting notion, SMfS. The Guardian carries so many articles on so many things, it often gets linked to. Don’t know about anyone else, but if I notice guardian.co.uk appear in the browser address field on a clinked link, half the time I close the page before it’s fully loaded. I presume I can predict what the Guardian line will be on most subjects, so what’s the point in wasting time reading the article? It’s going to be a fact free area, anyway.
    But I’m guessing those still count as visits. And wonder how many others do the same.

  20. BiS,

    I tend to do the same thing. My visits to The Guardian typically are due to not paying attention to the url.

  21. Bloke in Costa Rica

    M’learned friend Mr Lud: check out Milo. He is just the sort of gadfly that the SJWs cannot swat. He is flamboyantly over the top while making some serious points and they just don’t know what to make of him.

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