Oh, please, do fuck off people

Fish and chip shops are being urged to serve portions in standard sizes in a new campaign to cut obesity.

Research released on Wednesday found a huge difference in portion sizes at 600 fish and chip shops across the UK.

I think this is something we can leave to the interaction of the people themselves, don’t you?

30 thoughts on “Oh, please, do fuck off people”

  1. “Tom Pickerell, technical director at industry body Seafish, said standard portion sizes had two main benefits.”

    Giving Seafish more work to do being the main one?

  2. But, but, I thought all the nannying came from Brussels? Please don’t tell me it will carry on now we’ve “got our country back”! How could it ever be? Weren’t we promised libertarian total freedom in the brexit wonderland?

  3. Reading the article, it looks like the obesity bollocks has been stuck in by the Telegraph journalist.
    If the disparity of sizes of a medium portion of fish is in the range 93g – 562g the a standardised portion would be in the consumer interest. After all, fish & chip shops aren’t like restaurants. You’re not getting a chance to see what you’re buying at the point of sale. You find out when you get it home. OK. You’ve the option to not patronise that establishment again. But you’ve still been ripped off..
    And personal experience would indicate the sharp operators are usually in places where the customers won’t be repeat buyers. Tourist areas.

  4. BiG, no, we were not. At least not by commenters here. Many of us repeatedly pointed out we’d still be left with domestic prodnoses, but that the advantage of Brexit was that henceforth we could sack our own decision-makers and doing so might actually make a difference because their replacements wouldn’t be bound to follow the same extra-jurisdictional dictats.

  5. But Edward, our authoritarian interventionist nanny-statist control freak PM isn’t going to get sacked by a freedom-loving electorate because there are no credible parties of small government in the UK. So who do we vote for to kick her out?
    I would possibly vote Lib-Dem because they opposed the appalling snooping bill, but they are not a liberal party in any other sense. UKIP seem less small-government than before the last election and are currently a shambles. No UK party represents my views.

  6. Biggie–Thereis no shortage of cunts worldwide.

    The difference is it the decent people verses one lot of cunts now.
    Rather than –up to–27 packs of cunts plus the scummy hierarchy of the EU as well.

    You know this already –so really you should start thinking and writing in totally German and forget you ever had anything to do with this country at all.

  7. Echo the learned Mr Lud, there.
    And would point out; there no reason for state involvement in things like this, at all. They’re best, and have been best, dealt with by voluntary trade associations policing their own members. Just needs a Guild of Fish Friers for chippies to belong to & punters have the option of choosing to patronise chippies displaying the GoFF member sign..
    Job done.

  8. Alex11, sure, we’ve got our own problems. But with Brexit (if it ever happens), we’re beholden to one less problem.

  9. Bloke in North Dorset

    BiS

    “After all, fish & chip shops aren’t like restaurants. You’re not getting a chance to see what you’re buying at the point of sale. You find out when you get it home. OK. You’ve the option to not patronise that establishment again. But you’ve still been ripped off..”

    Round here you get to see what the people in front are getting and if you don’t like the look of it no need to buy. And if there’s nobody in front of me and I didn’t know the place I probably wouldn’t buy anyway.

    From my experience Weymouth, and when I lived in Yorkshire, Scarborough and Whitby competed to give the biggest portions, especially chips. Its got to the point where I buy small portions and still ask them to go easy on the chips.

  10. > it looks like the obesity bollocks has been stuck in by the Telegraph journalist.

    Happening a lot these days. The Telegraph are just fucking woeful now. They claimed a few weeks ago that having acne makes you live longer, while reporting on a scientific paper that said having acne does not make you live longer. I suspect they’re staffed mainly by sixth-formers.
     
     
    Alex,

    > our authoritarian interventionist nanny-statist control freak PM isn’t going to get sacked by a freedom-loving electorate because there are no credible parties of small government in the UK.

    We’re not leaving the EU for just one or two parliaments; we’re leaving forever. Any argument based on how things look right now and are likely to look for the next couple of years is frankly silly. Labour were unelectable in 1994. Thatcher was unelectable in 1976.

  11. Bloke in North Dorset

    Jim,

    “I suspect they’re staffed mainly by sixth-formers.”

    Its probably more to do with the race to machine journalism to cut costs:

    Even the most creative jobs have parts that are pretty routine — tasks that, at least in theory, can be done by a machine. Take, for example, being a reporter.

    A company called Automated Insights created a program called WordSmith that generates simple news stories based on things like sporting events and financial news. The stories are published on Yahoo! and via the Associated Press, among other outlets.

    We wanted to know: How would NPR’s best stack up against the machine?

    When the Denny’s earnings report came out, WordSmith finished writing the story in two minutes. Scott took just over seven minutes. Here’s what they came up with…..

    http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/05/20/406484294/an-npr-reporter-raced-a-machine-to-write-a-news-story-who-won

  12. The point of the machine learning/AI tools is to increase the reliability (and speed) of writers. For financial reports, where you want formulaic presentation of accurate results, and the agencies measure reporters performance against competitors in split-seconds, the raw output is completely useable for first publication and is already used. Also the volume of financials being reported means you could never have enough journalists to do it anyway.

    For any kind of writing where split seconds don’t count, the point is to free the writer to work on the intellectual tasks, not to abolish them completely. Not that employers will understand that.

  13. In the old days pressure groups had to work quite hard to get their message across in the MSM. Now they send an email to the Telegraph, Guardian, BBC and Daily Mail and it is reprinted practically verbatim, regardless of how stupid, petty or potty it is. In fact, the more stupid, petty and potty the idea is, the more likely it is to be printed.

    Meanwhile, “fake news”. Meh.

  14. I’m not seeing the issue Seafish are concerned about here. Large variance in portion size but less variance in price can be explained by price differences on other business inputs – wages, energy, rates, etc.

    I wonder if there is some health directive (native or EU origin) that seeks to rigidly assess the calorific value of takeaway foods. Standard portions would be the beginning of the nagging, not the end of it.

  15. @ bis
    “After all, fish & chip shops aren’t like restaurants. You’re not getting a chance to see what you’re buying at the point of sale.”
    – actually my local fish-and-chip shop *does* let you see what you’re buying before you pay for it and take it away.

  16. Bloke in Costa Rica

    “As middle-class people don’t tend to frequent fish and chip shops”

    Huh? I’m as middle-class as all get-out, and every time I’m in the UK I make sure to visit the local chippie.

  17. bloke in spain,

    “And personal experience would indicate the sharp operators are usually in places where the customers won’t be repeat buyers. Tourist areas.”

    Sure, but isn’t that a fairly cheap lesson to learn if someone hasn’t told you already? Do we really need a bunch of regulation when that will suffice?

    I’m all in favour of regulation for serious things – food that can harm you, cars that explode, but generally I prefer the idea of raising consumers to be smart through mistakes and sharing information rather than the state doing it. Especially as the state will often not do it well.

  18. Telegraph: “Research released on Wednesday found a huge difference in portion sizes at 600 fish and chip shops across the UK.

    Currently a medium portion of cod varies from 93g to 562g and a medium portion of chips varies from 100g to 797g.”

    I don’t believe those figures. A weight difference of well over 1lb in a medium portion of fish or chips is implausible.
    .
    As for “not seeing product” – every chip shop I’ve purchased from in England, Scotland, Wales & NI places portion in a container in front of you and asks if you want salt or other condiments before wrapping.
    .

  19. @Alex 11 & Ecks

    From the link “Every computer on the Internet has a unique IP address allotted to it which makes it possible to trace it back to its exact location.”

    Stopped reading there as that is bollocks, every device on an IPV4 internet connection connects using the same IP address.

  20. From the link “Every computer on the Internet has a unique IP address allotted to it which makes it possible to trace it back to its exact location.”

    Stopped reading there as that is bollocks,

    Yes, it’s bollocks. They obviously have never heard of the RFC1918 private netblocks, for starters.

    every device on an IPV4 internet connection connects using the same IP address.

    But so is that. Not every network has a NAT gateway.

  21. Telegraph – sigh. I noticed a piece today about some research on prostate cancer at Johns Hopkins. Turns out the paper was published in January 2015!

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