So, Six Nations predictions then

Deciding match last of the series, England v Ireland in Dublin?

Scotland are much better than in the recent past but it is much better, not top rank, Wales are drifting, Italy, game lads but and France, well, who knows which team will turn up?

Ireland well beat the All Blacks and were very close a second time. And England. So, the last match as the decider perhaps?

23 thoughts on “So, Six Nations predictions then”

  1. To be quite frank those of us who went along to watch Cameron Smith and Jonathan Thurstaston dismantle England and then New Zealand just won’t be turned on by England beating the other Australians. The All Blacks; that’s impressive. Do Ireland are the only European Union team in town at the moment.

  2. It’s pretty likely that it will come down to Ireland-England on the last day but it depends on how both teams deal with Wales away (still tough even though Wales are arse at the moment) and France at home.

    I’d pick England, because of strength in depth and because we’re on an upward track with room to improve over the earlier matches while Ireland are probably as good as they can be.

    Outside bet is that England lose to France first up and then beat Ireland to take the championship on points.

  3. Although you never know which team will turn up when the French play, you can be certain about which Cliché will turn up.

  4. These days it would be more accurate to say of the French that we expect a team full of big lumps to turn up and for them to play a bit like Wales.

  5. Bloke in North Dorset

    Wales and Scotland both have the players to beat England and Ireland on their day and win the chamionship, but they both lack depth and it will only take a couple of injuries and players off form from them to be wooden spoon contenders.

    France? Who knows, but Ladbrokes has them at 33/1 to win the Grand Slam so that could be worth a fiver as a gamble and they are capable of beating anyone if they right team turns up, but the bookies usually know what they are talking about.

    In the end the decider is probably going to be Ireland v England for the championship if not the GS and my head says Ireland but not by much. It promises to be a hum dinger of a match, especially if both teams have close to their best XV on the park.

  6. Wales and Scotland could beat England on their day a few months ago, but England have re-discovered winning ugly under Eddie Jones. 14 men for 85 minutes against Argentina and a total Aussie pummelling for 30 minutes, and still won both comfortably. Without Billy V, Itoje, Launchbury, Haskell and Watson, most of whom will be back by February.

    A fully fit Ireland XV could beat them, but that’s about it for Europe. It’s a shame we don’t get to see them play the All Blacks, but it adds more spice to the Lions tour I guess.

    Astonishing to see what Eddie has done with the same group of players who stank out their own World Cup a year ago. Youngs and Haskell in particular unrecognisable from their prior international career.

  7. Ironman,

    Rugby league is sooooo! gay, a game designed for the simple of mind.

    I believe we’ll beat the ABs 18 win record with a Grand Slam, just a shame we’ll do it without facing the ABs.

  8. The Scottish backline IMO is better than England’s. The Irish pack is better than England’s. Wales you can forget. France showed signs against the ABs but I will take some convincing. I think England are the best all-round side, but I think Ireland will do us in Dublin.

  9. Rugby league is sooooo! gay, a game designed for the simple of mind.

    Rugby Union has only gotten interesting since it became an awful lot more like Rugby League, mainly the quick recycling of the ball and the mobility/speed of the bigger men. I always thought RL was the better product, but RU was much better run and marketed, and probably a lot would have agreed with that in the 1990s until RU went fully professional. But nowadays I think RU has caught up to the point that it’s probably the better game, especially the way it’s played in the Super XVs which is often as fast and continuous as a game of RL these days.

    Personally I never quite got the RU/RL rivalry. They are different sports, even down to where in the stadium is best to watch it (RL you really want to watch from behind the posts as territory isn’t very important, whereas angled runs are; RU I find better to watch from near the halfway line, so you can see the scrums and lineouts properly).

    RL’s biggest issue in the UK is not the quality of the game but the fact that most of its support is made up of retarded Commie-symapthisers who think all the world’s ills are the fault of Thatcher and are constantly railing against anyone capable of marketing or making money, yet can’t understand why their sport hasn’t grown.

  10. I always think of myself as one of the most blessed guys on the planet as I’m married to a woman who is as passionate about rugby union and cricket as I am. MrsBud was up at 24:30 on Sunday morning watching England thrash the Aussies, but, despite coming from Yorkshire, you’ll never persuade her to watch rugby league. They are two entirely different sports, one is sublime artistry and the other is utter crap, rugby league being the most discontinuous game imaginable. I have really tried to appreciate rugby league, but I can just about raise a modicum of enthusiasm for the State of Origin purely for the fun of teasing people from NSW.

  11. They are two entirely different sports, one is sublime artistry and the other is utter crap, rugby league being the most discontinuous game imaginable.

    That’s the most common complaint: that the play-the-ball constitutes a stop, whereas endless collapsed scrums and “the ball’s not coming out of there” rucks don’t. When looked at the time the ball is spent “in play” over the 40 minutes, RL was something like 36 minutes, RU was always much less. It was to change this that they allowed quick throw-ins instead of lineouts, etc. In fact, one of the most fascinating things to see in the past decade as a fan of both codes is how RU has dicked with the rules to make it more appealing to audiences and come up with much the same answers their RL cousins did a hundred years before for the same reasons. The play-the-ball is effectively a fast, uncontested ruck, something you see increasingly often in RU these days. And the modern RU defence is RL all the way, hence coaches like Andy Farrell and Shaun Edwards.

    But yeah, I get your point. I’m not trying to convince you of how good RL is, just it’s interesting to see how RU has developed and become closer to RL as its popularity increased.

    I have really tried to appreciate rugby league, but I can just about raise a modicum of enthusiasm for the State of Origin purely for the fun of teasing people from NSW.

    Origin is a farce now, nothing like it was.

  12. I played union for 30 years. Well still do occasionally. A vets tournament under floodlights a couple of Friday’s ago. More technical. Chess against the draughts of league. But league learnt from Australia who learnt from the usa football. The team names. The pitch. Making it an easy game to watch. I’d still rather play union. But I can see why league has its fans. Although where is it the number one sport? Not even in Australia where that goat-fuck-fight of a game Aussie rules……rules.

  13. France might have a shout if they could unearth a fly half of international standard. They haven’t for years.

  14. Bloke in Lower Hutt

    England will win the Grand Slam, just so they beat the All Blacks record for most consecutive wins and I have to put up with the needless Kiwi whining that it doesn’t count because they didn’t have to play the almighty AB’s (conveniently forgetting that the AB’s didn’t have to either).

    League is so much better to watch than Union. Give me a quick, uncontested play-the-ball over a bunch of fat blokes bent over and scratching at a pile of other fat blokes like a dog burying a turd for 20 seconds before the ref makes an arbitrary call that leads to 3 collapsed scrums followed by a 45-metre penalty kick for goal any day.

  15. Bloke in North Dorset

    I was brought up on RL in the ’60s and early 70s but now prefer RU, mainly because I lost track of all the RL rule changes that happened to accommodate Sky while I was travelling so I’m a bit bemused when watching it.

    RU had to change when it went professional. When it was, at least notionally, amateur the players would often say that they would play how they liked, ball stuffed up jumper stuff played on mud baths. It really could be dreary. As TimN notes, they’ve had to change if they want paying customers and TV audiences to pay their wages.

    In the ’80s we had a Welsh Colonel who was a top RU referee and administrator. He always used to say a bad game of RL was always much better than a bad game of RU, but a good game of RU was infinitely better than a good game of RL.

  16. BiND

    “He always used to say a bad game of RL was always much better than a bad game of RU, but a good game of RU was infinitely better than a good game of RL”

    I wish I’d said that.

    I probably will.

    And you can google ‘that try’ and see why my generation grew up and loved RU.

    Imagine that.

    That try.

    Everyone who follows rugby knows that try.

  17. Bloke in North Dorset

    Andrew,

    I don’t need to Google it, it’s seared in to my mind and I reckon at push I can replay every step in my mind.

  18. I’m with Tim Newman. Anybody claims to understand Rugby but slags off the other code just doesn’t get rugby, simple.

    For what it’s worth I think RL in the UK is in a terrible state. Just as Southerners are idiots if they don’t understand the nature of the Liverpool to Hull corridor then so are RL fans who don’t see the need for a top lie club in Lonion and at least two top line clubs in France.

    League’s supposed superiority was more to do with Union’s amateurism than its own high standards. Now though professional Union is England is slowly taking over the rugby world. Even the mug vaunted and funded French competition is becoming a sideshow. The other big deal is the NRL.

  19. ‘a top lie club in Lonion’
    ‘Even the mug vaunted and funded French competition’

    Top analysis.

    🙂

  20. Interested Thank you for following my posts so closely.

    I would reciprocate but, well, there’s always some paint drying somewhere.

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