Err, whut?

San Francisco Asks: Where Have All the Children Gone?

NYT headline. To which:

The San Francisco metropolitan area has a higher percentage of adults who identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender than any other city in the country, a new survey found.

Gallup’s poll of the 50 largest metropolitan areas in the U.S. found that 6.2% of San Franciscans identify as LGBT, which is 2.6 percentage points higher than the national average.

And amusingly that’s not in fact the answer. The disparity between gays and no children is just too large for it to be more than a minor contributor. The actual answer is that people get out of Dodge to go have and raise their children. Rather like parts of London in fact….

14 thoughts on “Err, whut?”

  1. One of the defining characteristics of the demented left is that they generally don’t have kids. Look at the lot protesting yesterday: what percentage of them had kids? Much less than average, I’d bet. They’ll say this is through choice but in my experience these women are either such fuckups or so obnoxious that no sane man would go near them.

  2. @ Tim Newman
    “They’ll say this is through choice but in my experience these women are either such fuckups or so obnoxious that no sane man would go near them.” It is quite plausible that their choice not to have children and their being “such fuckups or so obnoxious that no sane man would go near them” have the same underlying cause (e.g. extreme unenlightened self-interest aka selfishness)

  3. What the Times fails to grasp is something anyone who has spent time in SF can tell you: SF is not family friendly.

    An example: There are no parks within the city limits that can be used as such. They are homeless camps, and have been for decades. As such, they are both extremely dirty and very dangerous. If you go to SF’s city hall, there is a small park right across the street. It is a homeless camp, and no one but the homeless themselves walk the sidewalk bordering that park. The locals cross the street and use that sidewalk, so as to avoid being accosted or worse.

    Even if you have the money to live and raise a family in SF, you wouldn’t want to. The tone there is set by the sort of liberals and progressives who look down on the sort of people who engage in matrimony, monogamy, sexual reproduction and child rearing.

  4. @Dennis

    That is true about SF. I visited it over ten years ago and I did visit a park there which also had a museum in it.

    I got off the bus and walked past a troupe of homeless people. As I walked past a woman looked at me and asked if I wanted to buy some pot.

    Frankly the number of homeless people there is quite shocking.

  5. What an extraordinary waste of a wonderful spot, Dennis. Of course that’s true of Southern California too.

  6. There’s always an element of “people leave when they have kids”, but there’s also a thing with nerds that they don’t have kids, or even girlfriends, and aren’t even looking that hard.

    And places like SF attract that. There’s a “group of singles” culture to it where people can remain permanently wife and childless and still have socialisaton in a way that’s much harder if you’re a software guy in Provo or Raleigh. The coders in Provo are more financially inclined. They look at offers from a startup in SF with low wages and share options and compare it to a pharma company in Provo, deduct rent in both and move to Utah.

  7. The first time I visited SF, I was – and this is no lie – the Finance Director for one of the largest homeless shelters in Central Ohio. By noon of my second day there, I was ready to grab a baseball bat and start fracturing homeless skulls.

  8. There’s also the issue that San Francisco is *TINY*. It’s just the tip of the southern penisula, the same size as a large London Borough. When people think “San Francisco” they tend to think the of the whole bay area, in the same way people think of London being Greater London, not The City or, say, Islington.

  9. Tim Newman:

    And those who do manage to find a husband tend to change religious (political) views when they are exposed to the reality that their husband can only earn money to maintain them and the kids by working long hours and travelling fleixibly

  10. Went to SF as a teenager and hated it, didn’t go again until I was in 30s and enjoyed the visit, definitely an adult city even just from a sightseeing visit sense, one of the more European feeling cities in US.
    Also apparently more single young people move to SF than any other city which is going to skew child stats

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