I find this rather interesting

A transgender woman has been denied direct contact with her five children on the basis they would be shunned by their ultra-Orthodox Jewish community if she were allowed to meet them.

The woman will be allowed only to send letters to her children, after a judge concluded there was a real chance of “the children and their mother being marginalised or excluded by the ultra-Orthodox community” if face-to-face contact were permitted.

Because the more you read about it the more, from the Orthodox side, it seems to be about separation and possible divorce than it is about transgenderism.

9 thoughts on “I find this rather interesting”

  1. So Much For Subtlety

    So the Courts will reward ethnic minorities if they are beastly to sexual minorities?

    That is not exactly going to encourage integration is it? If I say my mate’s children will kick six types of snot out of my children if my wife gets custody, I expect I would get a jail term. But if my name was Schlomo, or I am guessing Ahmad, I get full custody?

    Out-frickin’-standing effort by the Courts there.

  2. Fucking he’ll! I agree with SMFS (sits down, takes glass of water).

    Different strokes for different folks is a good way to live. Under no circumstances though can any group impose its particular customs on anybody else, that much is incompatible with Britain. This is the same as insisting women dress a certain way in public places, e.g. swimming baths, in case Muslim women (or men) are offended.

    The judges are wrong, just wrong, we can’t have this.

  3. The transgender woman is the children’s father.

    The children’s mother got the court to deny visitation to the father on the basis that said father is so peculiar it will harm the kids. Isn’t this rather common, with transgenderism just a special case of peculiarity?

  4. The judge noted his concerns over the clash between the ultra-Orthodox faith and transgender rights, saying: “It is painful to find these vulnerable groups in conflict.

    Ahh, intersectionality.

    Evidence provided by the mother suggested that the children would be barred from attending Orthodox Jewish schools if they had contact with their transgender parent.

    Imagine the howls of protest in the Guardian if a CoE school barred some kids for having contact with their transgender former-father.

    The claimant stated that she [the father] had known “a consistent nagging feeling of incongruity” over her gender identification since she was very young, but family members dismissed it as “a stupid, silly issue”.

    Maybe those family members had a point.

  5. What if someone said he likes orthodox Jews well enough but can’t bear the Orthodox? Would he have committed a crime, or merely crimethink?

  6. “Can fundamentalist Christians expect the same judicial consideration?” The words “fat” and “chance” spring ineluctably to mind.

  7. Yeah I read this. It was actually rather tough to work out which parent was which, given they insist on calling the father a woman without making clear that’s what they were saying. Only clicked when they mentioned the mother separately.

    I would have intuitively thought that the relationship with a parent was more important than the relationship to a religious group, but I wouldn’t claim expertise on these things.

  8. @Oblong

    “This other person is terrible and letting them meet the kids would scar them forever” is a very common claim in divorce proceedings, unfortunately.

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