There’s a certain truth hereJanuary 22, 2017 Tim WorstallPolitics32 Comments From Bloke in Wiltshire previousThey’ll carry on shouting about nepotism anywaynextErr, whut? 32 thoughts on “There’s a certain truth here” DocBud January 22, 2017 at 12:08 pm Gold! So Much For Subtlety January 22, 2017 at 12:31 pm I did not know there were that many lesbians in America. And I would like to thank Ashley Judd. I did not believe it was possible for me to support Trump any more than I do. But she proved me wrong with a single speech. The Inimitable Steve January 22, 2017 at 12:40 pm BiW – you bastard! Spat out my tea. AndrewC January 22, 2017 at 12:53 pm As we are in the mood for hilarity and for those who didn’t spot this in the Times, they are looking for a name for a new English sparkling wine. There can be only one winner. Fizzy McFizzface. So Much For Subtlety January 22, 2017 at 1:01 pm AndrewC – “they are looking for a name for a new English sparkling wine.” Judging by the consumption of champagne-type wines in my neck of the woods – Fizzy McLegopener. Theophrastus January 22, 2017 at 1:05 pm Meanwhile, Laurie Penny’s uterus is revolting: My period started with a vengeance in the middle of that speech. I think my uterus is trying to leave America without me. #TrumpInauguration Mr Ecks January 22, 2017 at 1:40 pm Its trying to get away from her in case it has to pass on her genes. Bloke in North Dorset January 22, 2017 at 1:46 pm I thought that was rather amusing from Laurie. If a righty had said something similar over Hilary we’d have appreciated it. A lefty with a sense of humour is a rare beast and we should take the time to appreciate it even if we don’t agree with the politics. Mr Ecks January 22, 2017 at 1:54 pm Sense of humour?? PennyRed??? If you are a decent human being any joke from her is on you. Every time. JuliaM January 22, 2017 at 2:00 pm The Trump Derangement Syndrome seems to be even deeper and affecting more people than its predecessor, BDS… bloke in spain January 22, 2017 at 2:15 pm Appended this to another thread, but it seems so more appropriate here: This from the Torygraph: This: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/21/michelle-obamas-face-inauguration-barometer-americas-feelings/ Ignoring that the election result would seem to indicate, not the face America was showing inauguration day – not exactly the Anglo-Saxon fortitude under adversity founded the Union is it? More the face of the petulant spoiled child told ” no she can’t have a present. It’s not her birthday.” Gamecock January 22, 2017 at 2:30 pm Meanwhile: ‘Most Read from The Washington Post: Women’s marches: More than one million protesters vow to resist President Trump’ Resist we much. ‘Thousands of people marched through uptown Charlotte Saturday to raise awareness of women’s rights issues and to show solidarity with other marches across the country the day after President Donald Trump’s inauguration.’ Gawd, there’s “women’s rights issues” we should be aware of? WHO KNEW? I gotsta know, where were these millions of people BEFORE the election? Oh, they lost. ‘because our democracy is at stake’ You lost, honey. That IS democracy. The World Wide Womens March Against Democracy. Bloke in Wiltshire January 22, 2017 at 2:40 pm bloke in spain, At some point, some of these people might grasp that lots of people don’t bother with marching. The biggest political change in the UK in decades had almost no marches supporting it. No-one marched against Brown fucking up the economy before they kicked him out of office. I suspect marches are a social thing, like going to art galleries or seeing Kraftwerk. No-one’s paying £100 to hear synth music played – it’s about showing off that you went. You see it when you’re at gigs now – everyone pulls out their cameras and films it. Wankers. None of these people really care that much. They’d have been knocking on doors and getting the vote out if they did. All political parties are desperate for volunteers to provide practical help. Bloke in Wiltshire January 22, 2017 at 2:45 pm Gamecock, And actually, none of this is about women’s *rights*. It’s about women’s *benefits*. Defunding Planned Parenthood doesn’t mean you can’t get an abortion or contraception, it means you have to pay for it. Now, you can argue whether that’s a good or bad thing, but it’s a *benefits* thing, not a *rights* thing. Theophrastus January 22, 2017 at 2:47 pm BiND: She doesn’t have a sense of humour: she takes herself too seriously. Even her period has to be part of her egocentric, virtue-signalling psychodrama. She is suffering for the cause, a martyr to her radical journalism, as she boldly copes with her period pain. Here’s more: Laurie Penny @PennyRed I am going to pay for what I’ve put my body through in the past 72 hours. When I’m sick next week, remind me I said this, ok Twitter Laurie Penny @PennyRed Ok. I’ve been on my feet working and reporting for 27 out of the last 36 hours, mostly outdoors, and I’m sick, and I am lying down now. mobile.twitter.com/PennyRed?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor bloke in spain January 22, 2017 at 3:41 pm ” she takes herself too seriously. Even her period has to be part of her egocentric, virtue-signalling psychodrama.” To be fair to PennyRed (perish the thought), she’s only conforming to the popular mode. “The stressful life of working women” “49% of men would choose a job with less stress” The people here recounting how stressful their poor little lives are, piloting a desk. OFFS! The bint’s work pattern sounds like mine, any week out of the past 20 years. Or maybe 40. Even mine, now. When I consider myself dossing. My gran combined working in an ammunition factory, with queuing for off-ration food, whilst sleeping in an Anderson shelter under nightly bombing. ‘Til the house got blown down. Then she had a couple days off. My mother combined being a housewife with helping create a multi-million pound financial group. Can’t remember any of us discussing being stressed or the effects thereof. We weren’t. There weren’t any. Rob January 22, 2017 at 4:17 pm A former Australian cricket captain who had flown for the RAF in the war was asked about the stress of international captaincy. His reply was something like “stress is a Messerschmidt up your arse”. Rob January 22, 2017 at 4:19 pm I saw one banner from this march on Twitter saying that as men got free razors, women should get free tampons. Deranged. As for marching and the claim that more turned out for Obama, so what? Is it a good thing for a politician to inspire mass Nuremberg sized rallies? They don’t tend to end well. Jack C January 22, 2017 at 4:40 pm Rob, Not the captain, but Keith Miller. “Pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse, playing cricket is not”. Theophrastus January 22, 2017 at 4:49 pm BiS You are right about LP conforming to the modern notion of work stress being a Bad Thing. The Whitehall Studies — https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitehall_Study — show that people lower down an employment hierarchy have poorer health. We also know that stress levels are higher in those not in control of their work. The interesting thing is that LP (like you) is in control of her work. The desk pilots in large corporations that you sneer at are not in control. Indeed, some studies, IIRC, show that middle management in a large company is the most stressful location. Also, in my experience, exposure to regular, temporary but not excessive hardship when young creates resilience that inoculates people against stress. It toughens young people up. If you could survive a 1960s English boarding school, you can survive almost anything. You, however, see such conditions as something to rebel against, don’t you? john77 January 22, 2017 at 5:06 pm @ Thephrastus The English boarding school regime was designed to equip younger sons for life as an army subaltern in the “field”, which was cold, tough and dangerous. So I’d say that being able to survive almost anything was a large part of its purpose. In recent years (possibly as a result of the fall of the Soviet empire, more probably because most fighting is done at long-range using high-tech gadgetry) this has been perceived as obsolete and they’ve been softened up – several have even gone co-ed. Dennis the Peasant January 22, 2017 at 5:23 pm Meanwhile, Laurie Penny’s uterus is revolting Truer words have yet to be spoke… Dennis the Peasant January 22, 2017 at 5:28 pm I did not know there were that many lesbians in America. There aren’t. There are, however, that many women in America with craps. Bloke in Wiltshire January 22, 2017 at 5:58 pm Theophrastus, “Indeed, some studies, IIRC, show that middle management in a large company is the most stressful location.” Big companies are bad for your health in general. It’s an option people take because they are, or appear to be, safer places to keep a job, or maybe have more perks, but they’re just awful. And it’s not about hard work. I’ll take 9-10 hour days in a startup or SME. It’s that on the one hand, you’ve got people expecting you to deliver stuff, and on the other, unthinking, parasitical bureaucrats throwing spanners into the gears. These people should be about “support”. Oh, no need to book your own hotel, the travel support team will do it. Except, they’re on lunch for an hour. Then don’t call you for 2 hours, and then, after you’ve explained that the hotel must be near the office for the guy to do long days, book somewhere on the other side of the city. And you see the bill after they cross-charge the cost of their function and you could have booked something better through LateRooms for less. Theophrastus January 22, 2017 at 6:08 pm “Truer words have yet to be spoke…” Indeed, DtP. Thank you. Apologies for an old joke: And in 1381 the peasants were revolting… Theophrastus January 22, 2017 at 6:28 pm “The English boarding school regime was designed to equip younger sons for life as an army subaltern in the “field”, which was cold, tough and dangerous. So I’d say that being able to survive almost anything was a large part of its purpose. In recent years (possibly as a result of the fall of the Soviet empire, more probably because most fighting is done at long-range using high-tech gadgetry) this has been perceived as obsolete and they’ve been softened up – several have even gone co-ed.” IMO, if young males don’t face trials that require endurance, self-sufficiency and self-discipline, they will not develop character – and then be vulnerable to stress in later life. In short, they will become mangina snowflakes, unable to cope without central heating, courgettes, safe spaces, etc. JuliaM January 22, 2017 at 10:56 pm @DtP: ‘There aren’t. There are, however, that many women in America with craps.’ The dice game..? Richard January 22, 2017 at 11:38 pm Rob said: “As for marching and the claim that more turned out for Obama…” No-one seems to have mentioned the geography on this. The inauguration is in Washington DC, which voted Democrat by massive majorities (90%+ Hillary), as do the surrounding areas. Not surprisingly; most of the jobs round there are, directly or indirectly, reliant on the federal government; the people know which side their bread is buttered. The two states surrounding Washington DC also voted Hillary, and the counties that voted Trump were the more remote, rural ones. Even those who voted Republican didn’t want Trump; in the Republican primaries, DC and the surrounding counties voted heavily for Rubio. So lots of Dems came out for Obama’s inauguration, and for the anti-Trump protest marches, because there are lots of Dems in DC and within an easy journey thereof. Trump supporters are further away, and had better things to do than travel hundreds of miles to watch something they can see better on the telly. wat dabney January 23, 2017 at 5:02 am I haven’t seen such hysteria and vocal, misguided opposition since systemd was adopted into Linux. However not all celebs are opposed to Trump. On Paul Joseph Watson’s Twitter thing I read that actor Shia LaBeouf is going round assuring everyone who will listen that he – Trump – is in fact not going to divide them. So a big well done to Shia. https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet John Square January 23, 2017 at 3:07 pm @wat Initrd 4eva! Dennis the Peasant January 23, 2017 at 3:41 pm The dice game..? Err, no… Dennis the Peasant January 23, 2017 at 3:41 pm Talk about fucking up a joke. Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.