Cuts Can’t Cause Deaths

Moreover, to blame an increase in a single year on ‘cuts’ to the NHS budget is arithmetically impossible given that budget rose by almost £15bn between 2009-10 and 2014-15.

You know, given that there haven’t been any cuts.

An unprecedented rise in mortality in England and Wales, where 30,000 excess deaths occurred in 2015, is likely to be linked to cuts to the NHS and social care, according to research which has drawn an angry response from the government.

The highly charged claim is made by researchers from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, Oxford University and Blackburn with Darwen council,


Prof Danny Dorling from the University of Oxford

Ah, yes, obviously it’s bollocks then.

19 thoughts on “Cuts Can’t Cause Deaths”

  1. It might be true: it would be just like the middle managers and bureaucrats at the NHS to cut back on vital operations and services to make a political point and safeguard their own positions.

  2. Doesn’t he just point out that a state run, planned service can’t respond to seasonal changes in demand?

  3. Just read the same story in the Mirror. There it specifies that the cuts were to social services, not to the NHS. The result being that the NHS becomes tied up doing that work too.

    This might be more realistic. Have local council budgets been cut?

  4. The NHS haven’t a clue as to how to spend money wisely for the benefit of patients. Anyone who has worked in it knows it’s centred on turf wars, hierarchies and status, boxticking, smug bureaucrats, crap ethics, patients being the very last concern. Of course if the patient could take their custom and money elsewhere……

  5. @Cynic

    But if you go back a couple of years before, spending was 0.1-0.3 billion. Go back further and you will see it rise again (although I’m not sure of that site reflects that).

    The allocation of spending into local health changed in the late 200x’s. Previously local authorities had the responsibility to provide it, but didn’t always account for it separately, or consistently. Post 2008 challenge from central government led to cuts in spending, mainly aimed at forcing councils to work with other local groups (housing associations, NHS, charities etc) to provide care. All of those other groups were funded separately, either directly (NHS, Charities) or indirectly (HA’s through benefits or via corporation tax exemptions).

    Bu getting councils to co-ordinate these groups, and effectively stopping them from directly delivering yet another health service, provision became more joined up and actually better thought out.

    So, this becomes an area where the amount spent is less important than how it was spent.

    The longer term effect was that areas that were well organised and managed got better provision. Some areas didn’t.

    The biggest impact of all was entirely unrelated to the funding though- rises in minimum wage shafted the sheltered accommodation services (home help and bum wipers) and the effects of that live on…

  6. Prof Danny Dorling from the University of Oxford said: “It may sound obvious that more elderly people will have died earlier as a result of government cutbacks, but to date the number of deaths has not been estimated and the government have not admitted responsibility.”

    Was there any chance his, er, “research” was ever going to yield results other than those pre-determined?

  7. Was chatting with two mates recently. Both scientists, one working in industry, the other doing really cutting edge research stuff at a top US university.

    Sadly it got onto global warming.

    Industry one has a religious faith in the honesty and integrity of scientists. To paraphrase the conversation, “do you seriously believe research scientists would just find the results they are paid to find?” Offended by the idea.

    Didn’t realise the unassuming guy next to him is a PhD in nuclear physics stuff no-one else understands that researches stuff for a living.

    “Yep, that’s exactly what happens.”

  8. Darn right, you pay for some research you better get the result you are looking for or else you don’t pay that researcher again.

  9. I take it that “excess deaths” is a difference between actual and projected deaths. Perhaps the projections are too high. For several years now there have been straws in the wind suggesting that the increase in life expectancies may be coming to an end. There have even been remarks that there are distinctly fewer very old people than projections had led people to expect. I’d be interested to know whether there are signs of this phenomenon in other advanced European countries, or Japan. .

    Since the NHS always gets higher expenditure very year, after inflation is accounted for, the whiners are probably just exploiting the phenomenon to wring more money out of the taxpayers.

  10. Couldn’t be that since we’ve had a bit of a cold winter round here and energy prices have soared recently, us oldies are keeping warm by sitting in the cupboard under the stairs watching the gas and electric meters whizz round?


    Of course, that would be the great global warming scam doing what it’s supposed to do; killing off the drones who are no longer useful to society in order to save the planet.

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