Democracy is that the people get what the people want, isn’t it?

Many Britons are taking an ambitious approach to the sort of Brexit they want, with significant majorities seeking both a tough approach to EU migration and continued free trade with Europe, a study has found.

The research from the National Centre for Social Research (NatCen) said more than two-thirds of participants overall wanted to see arrivals from the EU treated under the same rules as people coming from non-EU nations.

However, it discovered (pdf), 88% of people also wanted free trade with the EU post-Brexit, while more than 60% supported the continuation of passporting for banks, allowing barrier-free financial transactions and transfers.

Why shouldn’t the people get it, good and hard?

Or, as it turns out, the British people seem to want that free trade area they were told they were going to get and not the European nation that the federasts want.

4 thoughts on “Democracy is that the people get what the people want, isn’t it?”

  1. Once again, the feigned confusion that somehow free trade and free movement of people are the same thing, and that it is somehow hypocritical/irrational to want one without the other.

  2. Tim, your using an outdated definition: if the people choose what the pious progressive elites want them to choose, then it’s democracy; otherwise it’s populism.

  3. This would be fully compatible with “protecting EU citizens in the UK”. Treat then exactly the same as any other foreigner who has indefinite leave to remain, with exactly the same rights and responsibilities – eg, no recourse to public funds, you lose it if you leave the country for more than two years, after seven years you can upgrade it to citizenship, etc.

  4. JGH,

    Holders of indefinite leave to remain are eligible for all UK benefits that citizens are eligible for. They are also eligible for student loans and to pay “home” fees at UK universities.

    ILR is lost at the point where one intends to stop living in the UK permanently. Being outside of the UK for 2 years is not relevant, except that if one returns to live in the UK within 2 years of leaving, ILR can be resumed.

    Many people should have lost ILR under strict definitions of the rules, but as nobody asked, it was implicitly resumed when they reentered the UK.

    If one maintains sufficient ties to the UK (very difficult to prove), then a former ILR holder can obtain the status of Returning Resident regardless of the length of time outside the UK.

    ILR holders can become citizens immediately if they are married to a citizen, or after 1 year of holding it.

    ILR is very different from EEA3/EEA4 permanent residence.

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