NoApril 29, 2017 Tim WorstallEuropean Union22 CommentsHas Labour found a way to secure a good Brexit deal? From our ever popular Questions In The Guardian We Can Answer series. previousYou what?nextErr, whut? 22 thoughts on “No” JuliaM April 29, 2017 at 7:32 am Labour couldn’t currently find their own anus with both hands and a hunting dog…. The Meissen Bison April 29, 2017 at 9:02 am Worth them trying with a staffie, though. Jim April 29, 2017 at 9:46 am With a negotiating stance of ‘We’ll accept anything to stay in the Single Market’ I think we can safely say No to that one. Ironman April 29, 2017 at 9:50 am The Labour Brexit policy: “Hello EU negotiators. You do know we simply cannot walk away from these negotiations don’t you? Right, let’s get started.” bloke in spain April 29, 2017 at 9:54 am It is quite amusing how the Graun is still discussing Labour as if it was a viable political party with real hopes of forming a government. It’s like reading news reports from some alternative reality. Nautical Nick April 29, 2017 at 10:31 am This idea that somehow Mrs May has “chosen” “Hard” Brexit. Given that we are leaving, it is the EU who insists that Brexit will be Hard. They are refusing to discuss any other alternative. Furthermore, when the EU says they will not countenance Britain having the same or better terms than anyone else rather implies that the whole EU structure is impeding, rather than enhancing members benefits. If Brussels had half a brain, they’d have given way to the UK by reforming the EU. As it is, the EU will fracture at some point. The Inimitable Steve April 29, 2017 at 10:53 am Hard Brexit is a rhetorical fail on the simpering metrosexual Left’s part. Nobody wants a Flaccid Brexit. Can you imagine Jeremy Corbyn standing over you, starkers, his shrivelled little Richard Murphy retreating into its nest of grey curlies, and his beardy cheeks burning like a gnome’s as he stammers something about this never having happened to him before? Now you can. bloke in spain April 29, 2017 at 11:06 am I’m currently a spectator of a domestic drama. A mate is in the process of dispensing with the presence of a long term resident girlfriend. And she’s fighting tooth & nail not to be given the push. Without a prayer. Mates decided she’s an expensive luxury’s costing him more than the value received & her “rights” to the big bed are non-existent. She’s currently in the spare room with instructions to sort herself alternative accommodation smartish. Strikes me, the parallels with Brexit are compelling. We really need to stop talking about leaving the EU because the UK’s not going anywhere. It’s the reverse. Sailor Ted invited it in when it was calling itself the CM. It’s put up with it filling the bathroom cabinet with cosmetics & packing the wardrobes with shoes. It’s accepted the soaps on TV & the sister & her brats. Even the horrendous mother-in-law in waiting. But like the mate’s bit of stuff, the demands have just got too great. It has to be given the push. But it’s not a divorce because it was never a marriage. What the states of the US have is a marriage & it’s never been that. Although the EU had hopes. The relationship’s soured & the EU’s been told to go sling it’s hook. If the UK wishes to give it cab fare for old times sake, it’s being generous. It’s certainly under no obligations. bilbaoboy April 29, 2017 at 11:20 am BiS Yeah. Like it! Martin April 29, 2017 at 11:24 am Who is sailor Ted and what is this CM he has? What relevance to the EU does this sailor have and who put him in his position? PF April 29, 2017 at 11:26 am Steve – Thanks! Now can I have some mind bleach (please).. BiS – I like it. But you know what comes next? She gets emotional; and starts ripping stuff up, bad-mouthing to mates, crapping outside the front door, etc. Ie, it’s going to “cost” quite a lot more than that cab fare. Of course, all the more reason that it’s got to be done, and now rather than later.. Bloke in North Dorset April 29, 2017 at 11:28 am “As the party walks a tightrope between leave and remain voters, Keir Starmer has put forward what could be a third option” The third way, the soft option of the terminally indecisive. “The answer, he says, is first of all to make sure we do not get into this situation. Improve the tone of the talks by making unilateral gestures of goodwill such as guaranteeing the rights of EU citizens. Seek to negotiate a change in the immigration rules of the single market, he says, rather than ruling out participation and then trying to recreate its benefits afterwards, as the Tories favour.” FFS, how many times do these idiots have to be told that its not up for negotiation before it sinks in to their thick skulls? Bloke in North Dorset April 29, 2017 at 11:29 am Martin, Ted Heath who lied to take us in to the Common Market. The Meissen Bison April 29, 2017 at 12:30 pm Improve the tone of the talks by making unilateral gestures of goodwill such as guaranteeing the rights of EU citizens. Oh, just like Tony Blair giving up half of the British budget rebate on the understanding that the CAP would subsequently be reformed. Which, of course, never happened. So let’s try that tactic again. mike fowle April 29, 2017 at 12:39 pm Oh, just like Tony Blair giving up half of the British budget rebate on the understanding that the CAP would subsequently be reformed. Yes, indeed. Remember hard bitten, tough talking Tone as he set off for Brussels: The rebate is not up for negotiation – period. dearieme April 29, 2017 at 3:04 pm And the silly tart has plans to hide Northern Ireland in her suitcase. Sign up quick! And while we’re at it, repeal the laws that dispense various favours to the Irish e.g. voting here. bloke in spain April 29, 2017 at 3:07 pm @pf Yes. The EU’s “any girl called Tiffany” on the Hot Crazy Matrix. (You Tube) Except it’s never figured at all on the HOT axis. Well into minus numbers as in “probably a dude” in slap. bloke in spain April 29, 2017 at 3:14 pm @ The Inimitable “and his beardy cheeks burning like a gnome’s as he stammers something about this never having happened to him before?” One would truly hope it happened regularly with the Abbotpotamus. The alternative’s too horrible to contemplate. Theophrastus April 29, 2017 at 8:08 pm The EU is not a marriage, or a partnership. It pretends to be a club – with the intention of group marriage though at best it’s a group grope. However, in fact, it is an imperial project, a Franco-German empire – the Fourth Reich – to which subject states must defer and pay tribute. bloke in spain April 29, 2017 at 10:05 pm They’d like it to be, Theo. But in fact it’s no empire. Or the UK wouldn’t be leaving. No doubt they dream of sending the Imperial Army to remove those upstart provincial administrators & pacify the profince but they haven’t got an army. And if they had one & sent it, the UK government would shortly find itself replaced by one with balls & the Franco-German axis’d be administrating a nuclear free-fire zone. So Much For Subtlety April 29, 2017 at 11:57 pm JuliaM – “Labour couldn’t currently find their own anus with both hands and a hunting dog….” But enough about the sex lives of the Lib-Dems …. bloke in spain – “They’d like it to be, Theo. But in fact it’s no empire. Or the UK wouldn’t be leaving. No doubt they dream of sending the Imperial Army to remove those upstart provincial administrators & pacify the profince but they haven’t got an army. And if they had one & sent it, the UK government would shortly find itself replaced by one with balls & the Franco-German axis’d be administrating a nuclear free-fire zone.” And yet the Italians and several other countries have found themselves with governments imposed by Europe that they did not vote for. The Euro-elites may be spineless – too spineless to opt for a military option – but that doesn’t mean they are an Empire. Eisenhower did not have to send soldiers to show his disapproval of Suez and it marked the end of Britain’s Imperial, that is independent, foreign policy. Mr Ecks April 30, 2017 at 1:03 am Not leaving the table under any circs was also Camoron’s nego posture when he crawled to the EU pre-vote. They gave him a bowl of shite. With some whipped cream out of a spraycan. Except they didn’t bother with the whipped cream. 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