Given that people here know about everythingMay 30, 2017 Tim WorstallThe Blogger Himself28 CommentsWho knows about Persian rugs? New made, hand made, silk and wool. Anyone? previousSoapy Joe pissed it up against the wallnextAmanduh’s feminist theory of Sgt Pepper’s 28 thoughts on “Given that people here know about everything” Edward Lud May 30, 2017 at 11:42 am Make sure you feel the vidth and the qvality. Dongguan John May 30, 2017 at 12:15 pm Bet you can find some in the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul. I went there once, fantastic place. Demetrius May 30, 2017 at 12:30 pm We have a small rug, very small, because of the cost. We got it a few years back from a specialist supplier that went to top of the market sales events. The one we were at was at Godmersham in Kent. Jane Austen was once there. Also, she was acquainted with a clergyman who had a son in law who was Aide and Interpreter of Persian to the Governor General of Bengal. But I doubt if she or her family could ever have afforded a real Persian carpet, but maybe just a small rug. Bongo May 30, 2017 at 12:57 pm Carpets and rugs are listed as the biggest exports of Afghanistan. And Afghan imports around $13 for every $1 of exports, which must be some kind of record. I doubt there is much GCCF going on to pay for the difference. Sorry, don’t know anything about your query on Persian rugs though. Rocco might be along to mention munching. Nemo May 30, 2017 at 1:02 pm Dongguan John, Well there’s a coincidence: I have fond memories of buying my first carpet in Istanbul’s Grand Bazaar a few decades back – wool on cotton, and very nice too. Not that it helps Tim much… Richard May 30, 2017 at 1:11 pm All about knots per square inch, isn’t it? They told me about it at great length in Armenia, but I’ve forgotten most of it. I think 400 knots per square inch (20 per inch each way) is where they start getting into good quality. Excavator Man May 30, 2017 at 1:16 pm Fantastically expensive. I saw some in Isfahan about 3 ft x 2 that would have cost me a month’s salary! The Meissen Bison May 30, 2017 at 1:17 pm Rather like Aberdeen Angus beef – most “persian” carpets aren’t. Andrew M May 30, 2017 at 1:18 pm There’s a small selection of Oriental rugs in IKEA, which will at least give you a reference point for retail pricing. > Each is hand-knotted by skilled craftspeople Sounds ripe for automation. Interested May 30, 2017 at 1:19 pm We have several from Middle East days of yore. Very hard wearing. You can buy cheaper imitations almost as good from Pakistan. PJF May 30, 2017 at 1:40 pm No news on carpet fitting, but Jeremy Corbyn is purported to have proposed a Land Value Tax in the Labour manifesto. He could grab the UK Liberty vote right there. Tim Worstall May 30, 2017 at 1:49 pm My piece on that at CapX will be up soon… Theophrastus May 30, 2017 at 1:58 pm Tim, there’s no substitute for knowledge: research the subject, and research the market. If no time, then hire an expert to advise and possibly negotiate for you. I used to deal in 18thC English portraits and furniture, and I acted for clients for 5% of purchase price + £250 + expenses. Tim Worstall May 30, 2017 at 2:21 pm The particular interest is that someone inside Iran is wondering whether we should work together to sell them outside….arbitraging on the price differences as it were. Dongguan John May 30, 2017 at 3:04 pm Nemo, on the contrary I bet in this digital age even these Turkish market traders have some online presence. Might help Tim establish a market value. Bet I could find a perfect knock off in Shenzhen though 🙂 Tim Newman May 30, 2017 at 3:34 pm Some of them can fly, apparently. bloke in france May 30, 2017 at 3:47 pm Tim Carpet sellers are bullshitters, always have been. You need to find a carpet restorer. Those are the guys who know their onions. Alex May 30, 2017 at 4:33 pm Your Iranian contact is probably right about the mark up. Rugs on sale in Tehran are a lot less than Persian rugs on sale outside the country, but exports are controlled – don’t ask me how it works, whatever permits are needed, you need to have the right contacts. I once went to visit a factory in Saveh, about 90 minutes SW of Tehran – godforsaken place in the middle of a rocky desert, and was given a present of a locally produced carpet by the factory owner for my troubles. Cost to him was probably a few hundred dollars. Value here is closer to thousands. Theophrastus May 30, 2017 at 4:55 pm “The particular interest is that someone inside Iran is wondering whether we should work together to sell them outside….arbitraging on the price differences as it were.” I’ve done import-export deals, notably on Italian ties, where I did well. You need to know the market and the product in depth, and then negotiate very hard. Never diversify without in-depth knowledge. Ever. abacab May 30, 2017 at 5:57 pm Can’t say that I’ve ever seen a persian rug store with a customer in it…… Plenty of rugs advertised as reduced from high 4 figures to lower 4 figures, but never a customer… Watchman May 30, 2017 at 6:11 pm abacab, How many customers do you need when two sales a week puts you in the top bracket of small shop earnings… Just May 30, 2017 at 6:43 pm Rhyming slang I believe. Anyone got any Persians? SadButMadLad May 30, 2017 at 6:44 pm Having been brought up in Iran we have quite a few Persian rugs, but I know nothing about them other that they are very good. Two have been walked on for 50 years and are still going strong. Pcar May 30, 2017 at 7:15 pm There’s one hanging on wall in dining room – Approx 10′ x 6′. Very nice to look at and stroke – silky. Purchased in Tangier 1979/1980. Matt W May 30, 2017 at 7:38 pm The inexpensive Ikea ones last surprisingly well. Had one on our living room floor for 15 years and still going strong. 8ft x 6ft. £100. The more expensive one is still waiting in storage. You will need the high end market! meiac May 30, 2017 at 8:53 pm Persian rugs fund the Hezbollah. Then they explode. PJF May 30, 2017 at 10:47 pm “My piece on that at CapX will be up soon…” Here is Tim’s article: https://capx.co/land-value-tax-is-a-great-idea-but-itll-never-happen/ Bloke in Costa Rica May 31, 2017 at 3:05 am I get you very good price, meestah. 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