From the newsdeskJune 1, 2017 Tim WorstallPolitics22 CommentsYouGov has May on a 3% lead? previousThis is an interesting ideanextInteresting theory 22 thoughts on “From the newsdesk” Benaud June 1, 2017 at 6:43 am Giggle abacab June 1, 2017 at 6:48 am Aah, all the righties (such as @MarcherLord1) spamming yougov’s polling with “Labour” “definite” has been bringing fruit. Hopefully will spur people who weren’t going to vote at all into holding their noses and voting Con as the least-worst shower-of-shoite. Henry Crun June 1, 2017 at 7:05 am YouGov? The organization whose President is Labour supporting Peter Kellner who is married to Baroness Ashton of Upyours? Well colour me fucking surprised. abacab June 1, 2017 at 7:28 am An example of someone lying to YouGov: https://twitter.com/MarcherLord1/status/869848512531501057 This is basically a re-run of Tories for Corbyn. I can’t wait for the tantrums on the morning of the 9th… abacab June 1, 2017 at 7:31 am Didn’t watch the “debate” last night – from looking around the Intartubes it appears that the ComRes chosen “balanced” audience was dominated by Momentum, it descended into a shouty bunfight (who would have though…), and that May was entirely right to stay away and send Rudd in her place. Should provide nice footage for “Coalition of Chaos” attack ads for the rest of the campaign. Anon June 1, 2017 at 7:55 am abacab, To be fair to ComRes, that’s what Labour’s support looks like now. It’s basically students, benefit queens, public sector and cranks. Bloke in North Dorset June 1, 2017 at 8:07 am According to Guido even serious lefties had noted the “balanced” audience. https://order-order.com/2017/05/31/bbc-mocked-left-wing-audience-ever/ Even George Eaton of the New Statesman noticed and he’s as myopically Labour as they come. Nautical Nick June 1, 2017 at 8:25 am The audience may have been balanced, but empty vessels make the most noise. Pat June 1, 2017 at 8:53 am I wonder if the Tories are finally working out that the BBC is not neutral. And whether they’ve figured they’ve more to gain than lose by doing something about it. I understand they don’t like messing around with institutions, but sometimes it’s necessary. abacab June 1, 2017 at 9:14 am @Pat – I suspect the BBC massively dropped a bollock on the audience thing. I think they’re largely institutionally biased towards Blairite-type politics rather than the left (although sometimes individual programs, like the one 10 years ago where they sent a journo to Venezuela to try to convince middle-class venezuelans that Chavez was great, are produced too). Pat June 1, 2017 at 9:46 am Although I wonder if the audience actually helped Labour. Having a studio audience behave irrationally and unfairly towards a candidate might well attract some support for that candidate from the audience at home. Provided of course that said candidate can keep his/her head and focus on the audience at home. abacab June 1, 2017 at 9:58 am @Pat – I suspect there’s a group of potentially floating voters who are put off by a candidate’s association with screaming loonies. And booing statements that this group find reasonable is likely to endear the audience (and by extension *their* candidate) less to them. Watchman June 1, 2017 at 10:15 am I am increasingly convinced that the pollsters still do not have large groups of voters in their sights – possibly the sort of people who can’t be bothered participating in opinion polls. That might be a significant demographic indicator in itself, as the ones they use currently do seem to skew towards the politically active (so read generally left-wingers). abacab June 1, 2017 at 10:28 am @Watchman – the politically more active, and the economically less active. It seems that “working people” are likely to be massively under-represented. Theophrastus June 1, 2017 at 11:36 am The result will depend on turnout. If young people vote in large numbers – 69% of 18-24 year olds say they will vote Labour – the Tories will lose seats. Traditionally, turnout in that age group is low. Different pollsters use different turnout models – and YouGov’s turnout model assumes a higher turnout for yoof. Mr Ecks June 1, 2017 at 11:54 am Which is why the brainwashed young need a –metaphorical–shit-kicking and an education into the realities of life and the true wonders of socialism. Otherwise that is what everybody will get when the evil scum of the left get the power they seek. Esp as their can be no excuse at the way everybody has sat back and snoozed while red vermin have invaded and infested almost every area of life and the sphere of the young in particular. The Purge will have to run much deeper than just schools , Unis and the BBC gone in a week. Cal June 1, 2017 at 3:20 pm “Aah, all the righties (such as @MarcherLord1) spamming yougov’s polling with “Labour” “definite” has been bringing fruit.” I’m not sure Labour’s gains can all be explained by MarcherLord and a few mates playing silly buggers with YouGov. But polls these days are seriously screwed by the fact that few people are willing to talk to pollsters on the phone any more. (This is something pollsters themselves admit.) I certainly don’t waste my time participating in any surveys of any sort these days. So it’s all gone online. And that means there’s a great danger of getting biased samples, as rabid Corbynites are the sort of people who do this stuff. bloke in france June 1, 2017 at 6:25 pm Maybe I’m going demented. But logically the dementia tax should appeal to generation rent and white van man. Why should some codger in a million pound house expect the taxpayer to fund his insanity? Not even on a back of an envelope calculation I reckon you could insure against Altheimers for about two pints a week if you started early. Pcar June 1, 2017 at 7:20 pm @Theophrastus, June 1, 2017 at 11:36 am The result will depend on turnout. If young people vote in large numbers – 69% of 18-24 year olds say they will vote Labour – the Tories will lose seats. Traditionally, turnout in that age group is low. Different pollsters use different turnout models – and YouGov’s turnout model assumes a higher turnout for yoof. Which is why election day should have been at Glastonbury festival like referendum vote. Jim June 1, 2017 at 11:28 pm “Why should some codger in a million pound house expect the taxpayer to fund his insanity?” I don’t think its the old codger who has been kicking up about the Tory’s initial proposals, its the old codger’s kids who see their inheritance disappearing into the care home owner’s pocket…………….all the shouting was bare faced greed from the heirs, seeing ‘their’ money going somewhere else. After all it wasn’t the poor who were complaining, they would get free care anyway and their kids know they’re getting SFA. No it was the middle aged middle classes with aged parents living in paid for houses worth hundreds of K imagining said aged parents working their way through that capital in 30+ years of retirement care costs until there was ‘only’ £100k left for them to inherit. Raw nerve to touch, the old expectations of inheritance one. Mr Ecks June 2, 2017 at 8:57 am Then look after the old person themselves and the state can fuck off. Problem solved. Tel June 2, 2017 at 12:38 pm Other polls also showing Tory lead diminishing, so it isn’t just a few Twitter libertarians having a laugh with the pollsters. Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.