I need a government grant to stick it to The Man

Pop music is, in one sense, simply the attempt by this generation’s youth to epater les bourgeois. That’s why they have tunes these days because the last generation’s didn’t.

More live music venues face closure in the next few years after Arts Council England (ACE) rejected an application for funding from the charity set up to defend their interests, it is claimed.

Beverley Whitrick, the strategic director of the Music Venue Trust, said she could not “even begin to guess” how many clubs will close before the next round of funding in 2022.

The council’s decision is likely to reignite the debate about its funding of “high” and “low” art. Of the £1.6bn allocated by the council to arts organisations in the latest funding round, about £367m went to those in the music sector. But 85% of this went to opera and classical music, according to the trust.

Yep, such are the snowflakes that they want grants to stick it to The Man.

16 thoughts on “I need a government grant to stick it to The Man”

  1. It’s worth catching Bowie’s interview with Paxman in the late 90s where he says that the vocabulary of rock music has been written. That it’s still entertainment, but the sense of rebellion has gone.

    So, it’s not where they go. Rock is as established as ballet. The average age of Glastonbury goers has risen to 39.

    The kids are more into things like movie making and indie gaming. YouTube is the new punk rock.

  2. Did David Cameron ever get to repealing Tony Blair’s monstrous incursion into licensing venues for musical performance which made it too expensive and troublesome to host the occasional live music? You remember the Great Repeal Bill he was thankful not to enact courtesy Clegg? These snowflakes should be campaigning for the freedom to perform not for a raid on the public purse.

  3. Kids today don’t rebel through music, but through politics. There’s nothing more guaranteed to anger your parents than engaging in left-wing activism.

  4. Ljh,

    Not saying that didn’t create problems, but a lot of this stuff is more about things like the smoking ban, the shift away from nightclubs and people finding other ways to connect.

    That Guardian story linked to “half of all music venues in London” includes night clubs, and a lot of those got killed off by the rather sensible bit of Labour legislation extending pub opening hours.

    A lot of this is also a London and other high rent area problem. To a certain extent, we’ve gentrified a lot of our cities. It makes more sense financially to bulldoze a live music venue and turn it into retail or housing. We’ve probably got as many live music pubs in Swindon (+ cafe/bars with DJs) than we have ever had.

  5. Apart from state attacks via Bliar as LJH points out, if pop music is “pop” then why would venues be closing anyway?

    If people don’t want to go and pay for live screech then it can’t be that popular.

    It is mostly soulless tripe these days if not actively poisonous shite from child molesters like Grande.

  6. Andrew M said:
    “There’s nothing more guaranteed to anger your parents than engaging in left-wing activism”

    Not sure about that. According to YouGov, Labour got a majority in all age groups up to 39, and still beat the Tories in 40-49. The youth are actually more likely to scandalise their parents by being UKIP activists (or even Tories, especially if their parents work in the public sector).

  7. BiS: it affected venues such as sports clubs and church halls where live musicians may have been employed for a shindig, providing valuable experience for those starting out. It was vicious killjoyism.

  8. BiSw

    “It’s worth catching Bowie’s interview with Paxman in the late 90s”…

    Worth catching for other bits too, including his realisation we were moving towards (not quite his words, but trying to capture the idea) Music As A Service. Without that development, I’m not sure live music would have died off quite so much.

  9. Fair enough for trying it on. If the government is frittering £1.6bn on making up the difference between the cost of art and what the public wants to pay for it, then they are as worthy recipients as all the other freeloaders.

  10. So I wonder how much of her salary Beverley Whitrick, the strategic director of the Music Venue Trust will lose if the taxpayer stops contributing to her worthy endeavour.

  11. Ljh,

    Ok. But I can find pubs in Swindon where a band can turn up for free and play. Plenty of capacity.

  12. So, to stick it to the man, one should become a rock musician in Swindon. I guess that’s rebellious, if not quite as rebellious as Slough would be.

  13. The rich will not voluntarily pay more tax ( that Norway experiment showed this ) but they do voluntarily opt out of being a burden on taxpayers by paying school fees, buying their own health insurance etc. And they end up with better education and health.
    It follows on this admittedly tenuous logic that all arts subsidies should be binned, and classic/opera fans will end up with better and more enjoyable arts than before.

  14. Bloke in Germany,

    Swindon is a somewhat rebellious choice. Not sure about Slough. Although I think Trowbridge or Peterborough are where the real punks should be now. Cheap, plenty of places to rehearse and get some practice playing live. You get discovered via YouTube nowadays anyway, so you can be pretty much anywhere.

    Places like London and Manchester are just statist now.

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