Ain’t this great?

A swift social media response to the images out of Charlottesville was #thisisnotus. Oh yes it is. America’s original sin is racism. For black people need look no further than slavery, to Jim Crow laws, to segregation, to today’s not-so-invisible hands guiding housing and education policy, the wage gap, health disparities, how banks give loans. One could also add police brutality, food insecurity and disinvestment in black and brown communities.

When investment does take place it’s called gentrification and that’s also verboten.

22 thoughts on “Ain’t this great?”

  1. I bet that grauniad piece doesn’t go on to explain that it was the Democrat party that was the home of the slave owners, segregation and the KKK; the Republican party was founded as an anti-slavery movement.

  2. Why do The Guardian and its readers hate black people so much?

    Anyone who actually cares about blacks supports education vouchers and opposes minimum wage legislation.

  3. What intrigues me is where is the black wealthy country that shows how the black man can run things if only whitey stopped oppressing him? You can point to white wealthy countries, to Asian wealthy countries (not many Hispanic wealthy countries, though there are at least some functioning ones). But where is just one ethnically black country that is also a functioning, democratic wealthy one? Heck, even a poor-ish black country thats growing fast, like India or China?

    Oh, but they’ll say its all colonialisms fault, all the white folk oppressed the black folk (50 years since independence now mind) and thats why all their countries are so screwed up. But then you look at Japan and Korea, and the white folk razed them to the ground in the middle of the 20th century and look at them now. By contrast the colonial inheritance most African States got was riches indeed. Plus the white folk did their best to destroy their own collective wealth by fighting each other in the early and mid 20th centuries, so its not as if they didn’t handicap themselves quite considerably. But still no African country took the baton available with a devastated Europe and created themselves a wealthy economy on the back of it, in the way the Asian countries did.

    So lets lower the bar a bit and look within the US. Where’s the black majority city thats wealthy and growing in size and economy? Bit difficult to find that either. Most of them are murderous shit holes that you wouldn’t leave your worst enemy in.

    So if you look at all the available evidence, you’d have to conclude that black folks are not capable of creating and maintaining wealthy functioning societies. Not even when the money to help them do so is piped in from outside, as in the case of US cities.

  4. “Health inequalities” – it’s the White man’s fault you are obese from stuffing your faces with shit food.

    “Food insecurity” – I just don’t know where the next box of doughnuts are coming from.

  5. They clearly mean, “Give us [the black leaders] all the money and we’ll decide how it will be spent”.

    It’ll work really well, honest.

  6. Only the West is guilty of racism, because only the West thinks racism is bad. Everyone else sees it as normal and natural.

    ‘America’s original sin is racism.’

    Not a sin. Birds of a feather . . . .

    BTW, those guilty (sic) of the original sin have been dead a while. We’re punishing people now for the sins of their great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfathers? Barbarians at the Guardian.

  7. I think the problems experienced by black majority countries stem from naive white folks giving money and hence power to local gangsters simply because they claim to represent the community at large.
    As for example, Live Aid money being given to Mengistu.

  8. Andrew M

    Jim – Barbados?

    I suspect there are a few that fall into this category – regularly discussed on here wrt “Rule of Law”?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbados

    Barbados has been an independent country since 30 November 1966.[55] It functions as a constitutional monarchy and parliamentary democracy modelled on the British Westminster system. The British and Barbadian monarch—Queen Elizabeth II—is head of state and is represented locally by the Governor-General of Barbados—presently Elliott Belgrave. Both are advised on matters of the Barbadian state by the Prime Minister of Barbados, who is head of government. There are 30 representatives within the House of Assembly.

    The Constitution of Barbados is the supreme law of the nation.[56] The Attorney General heads the independent judiciary. New Acts are passed by the Barbadian Parliament and require royal assent by the governor-general to become law.

    Etc..

  9. Botswana?

    (OECD country risk currently 2)

    That said, the rest of Africa seems to score badly. They’re all at sixes and sevens.

  10. Barbados/Botswana: around 70th in the world, GDP per capita-wise, about $17,000 per person. Its hardly a shining example of the stunning wealth that Black Africans could expect if it wasn’t for the evil white man is it? The USA is at about $57K/head. So presumably even if the poorest Black American was at 25% of national GDP, he’d be middle ranking in Botswana.

  11. Jim

    It’s an interesting point, and obviously true if dealing with averages etc, but in fairness you did say:

    But where is just one ethnically black country that is also a functioning, democratic wealthy one? Heck, even a poor-ish black country thats growing fast, like India or China?

    Hemce, perfectly good examples, amd quite a few more here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

    and particularly if comparing with the likes of India?

  12. @Pat at 1:02 pm – That’s why I say “Trade not Aid”. Continually giving charity means that the recipient gets lazy and doesn’t control their own lives. Giving aid to a country means that the country doesn’t control its populace or run itself properly.

  13. “A swift social media response”

    An infallible indicator that it was the wrong response.

    I bet the bloke who wrote “The Wisdom of Crowds” wished he hadn’t now.

  14. @Jim, August 20, 2017 at 10:18 am

    …What intrigues me is where is the black wealthy country that shows how the black man can run things if only whitey stopped oppressing him?…

    +1

    A point I regularly raise alongside EU’s “racist” import tariffs.

    Lefties have no coherent response instead branding me a racist.

  15. Do blacks really run Botswana? I thought it was kind of a DeBeers company town. At least they haven’t killed the golden goose (yet). They do deserve some credit for that.

  16. All the same -show us a white country that is not killing itself.
    Show us one that seems to think the white lower class should be a priority issue.

  17. @ Jim
    The Bahamas. Their Queen is white but 90% of the population is descended from freed slaves and all its Prime Ministers since independence have come from that 90%. Its GDP/head ranks third in the Americas.
    It is an exception partly because it doesn’t suffer from tribalism since the inhabitants had (?almost) universally lost contact with their tribal origins before democracy was introduced.

  18. john77,

    > The Bahamas … is an exception partly because it doesn’t suffer from tribalism

    In the U.S., they appear to be returning to tribalism: #BlackLivesMatter etc.

  19. “The Bahamas. Their Queen is white but 90% of the population is descended from freed slaves and all its Prime Ministers since independence have come from that 90%. Its GDP/head ranks third in the Americas.”

    Its also smaller than Luxembourg. Not exactly the best example for the 1.2bn population of Africa to follow. And incidentally a former colony of Empire, so that obviously didn’t scar them too much either.

  20. “Its also smaller than Luxembourg.”

    Which in itself is an interesting dicsussion. The notion that the smaller state has a better chance of being more closely knit with regard to identity, values, the demos – and hence is more likely to be successful?

  21. @ Jim
    “Oh, East is East,and West is West, and never the twain shall meet, Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God’s great Judgement seat, But there is neither east nor West, Border, nor Breed nor Birth, When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth!”
    The empire served by the Kiplings* treated men according to their worth not their appearance and, as a result, many acted as good men.
    *John Lockwood Kipling was Principal of the Mayo School of art in Lahore and made great (and successful) efforts to support idigenous artists and artisans. I attended an exhibition last year (?V&A) which featured his work and pupils.

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