But they’re not, are they?

All jobs should be advertised as available for flexible working, the Equality and Human Rights Commission has said, as it said progress has been “painfully slow”.

Everyone can ask for flexible working but there’s no requirement to grant it. Therefore all jobs are not available at flexible hours or shifts, are they?

22 thoughts on “But they’re not, are they?”

  1. Bloke in Costa Rica

    I can ask my boss for a fucking pony if I want. He will then say, “no,” and the status quo ante will be resumed.

  2. FFS. Jobs aren’t about you being a special snowflake. They’re about you doing something that someone wants.

    No-one wants fat old strippers or blind taxi drivers. And flexible shop staff doesn’t fucking work either.

    Still this sort of thing is yet more reason the Tories are finished. Not a fucking peep from them.

  3. People who sit at desks doing nothing productive imagine that everyone else’s job is equally trivial.

  4. It’s a human right, apparently. There’s been a lot of inflation in “human rights” recently. It’s so bad people have had to call real “human rights” “fundamental human rights” to distinguish them from the “stuff I quite fancy having”.

  5. “The difference in the public sector is lower overall than the private, it said, noting a link between large pay gaps and “the ‘bonus culture’ which is more prevalent in the private sector and which tends to reward men more highly than women”.

    Did Olivia just add performance related pay to the causes of the gender pay gap? That’s the kind of thing that makes me check the source. Neither the EHRC blog post nor their report, nor exec summary mentions bonus culture.

    https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/files/pay-gaps-strategy-fair-opportunities-for-all.pdf

  6. Mr Black +1.

    The people who come up with this nonsense have never had a proper job.

    Are you going to bring a food factory to a standstill because the early shift has finished and half the late shift don’t want to turn up for another two hours?

    Are you going to keep a 100,000T bulk oil tanker quayside because the inspector has decided he won’t be there for another six hours?

    It is remarkable how often you see the left suffering from the psychologist’s fallacy.

  7. Don’t you realise that performance-related pay is evil? To quote Neddie Seagoon: “I can’t live on nothing!”

    I had a job with bonuses 20 years ago, and I got bonuses if I chose to fix more than 25 widgets per week. If I valued not fixing widgets over the pay received I could go home once I’d done 25 widgets. The evil patriartchy ensured I was earning less than my wife was as a teacher working fixed hours with no bonuses on a fixed pay-regardless-of-results pay spine.

  8. “The 08:12 to London Paddington has been cancelled because the driver wanted to be more flexible this morning. We apologise for any inconvenience caused”

    “Oh, I’m sorry Ms Mudguard, but your operation has been cancelled this morning because the surgeon wanted a more flexible arrangement. The theatre and ward will be closed until 14:30, when his round of golf has finished”.

  9. There seems to be a correlation between how flexible a job can be and how unnecessary it is.

    I remember a while back a Guardian article about how parents should be able to take their babies into work with them. Which only makes any sense at all if you realise that “job” to a Guardian writer means something non-urgent which demands next to no concentration or dedication and is performed in a safe, clean, quiet environment.

    Such occupations as steel-worker, sewage-worker, fire-fighter, factory worker, etc, etc (in fact pretty much anything that aren’t public sector office dosses) are invisible to the Guardian writer (and most of the people commenting below the line, for that matter)

  10. This is *not*, quite, a gender issue. My wife gets stuck with working a 50-60 hour week for 37.5 hours pay because her male colleague has flexible working hours so that he can help his (higher-paid) wife in looking after their kids and does about 20 useful; hours for 30 hours pay.

    I am sure I could apply for flexible working hours – if everyone else fitted their schedules around mine; if they thought I was HM’s representive in investment circles; if the CEO polished my boots every morning.

  11. @ Rocco
    At my age, I get some flexibility while still adhering rigidily to timescales – the kid in the office has to cope when he comes in and finds stuff that I emailed earlier that morning before going to bed.

  12. Are you going to keep a 100,000T bulk oil tanker quayside because the inspector has decided he won’t be there for another six hours?

    Have you dealt with government inspectors before?

  13. @ Liberal Yank
    And what will the government inspector say if the tanker’s captain is unavailable for two days while taking his/her turn to care for the toddlers?
    Flexible hours works fine for employees of a government-mandated monopoly (except for those reliant on their services and the other employees who have to pick up the pieces because they don’t want their clients to die in a ditch).

  14. john77,

    The customer doesn’t get what they want. This mirrors what I experience in everyday life even without flexible schedules.

  15. @ Liberal Yank
    In my neck of the woods private sector companies exist to give the customer what he/she wants. *That* is why the kid in the office has to be ready to sort out my emails at 7 or 8 am (although in the one case where the customer ‘phoned me after 7 pm and *demanded* that it be sent out at 7 am it was the CEO who formatted it sometime after 2 am and sent it out)

  16. john77,

    Thank you for making the case for flexible schedules. Granted it isn’t the case that proggies are making.

    Please consider that my form of autism makes me view products differently than most ‘normals’. Virtually everything I buy is a compromise because it is difficult find what I want. Whatever it is you do probably isn’t worth the time, IMHO. Sadly ‘normals’ lap that crap up, making it difficult to compete in the same society. With this in mind, it doesn’t matter when the ‘work’ gets done.

  17. @ LY
    *A lot* of what I do isn’t worth the time but I keep going because occasionally I get to do something worthwhile and I shouldn’t be able to do that if I didn’t keep doing the rest.
    Proggies wouldn’t comprehend a CEO who brought a sleeping bag to the office to sleep on the floor because he knew a late meeting would mean that he missed the last train home, nor a CEO doing “clerical work” formatting an input to the Stock Exchange in the early hours to meet a 7 am deadline (fortunately he hadn’t too much to drink). We live in a much tougher world than they do.

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