Idiots

Uber’s application for a new licence in London has been rejected on the basis that the company is not a “fit and proper” private car hire operator.

46 thoughts on “Idiots”

  1. I sincerely hope that Uber’s legal appeal is successful. Taxi drivers aren’t all Mother Teresa either (and nor was Mother Teresa). It is a statist blow against free markets. I hope there is a voter backlash.

  2. Its a freaking outrage.

    If they were to apply the criteria they use for uber to themselves, ie mayor, tfl, police, local councils, etc, they would need to be closed down immediately.

    You know, I think that there will be a turning point where people will say “enough is enough”. Sure, there are plenty of useful idiots to keep the charade going but when it starts to affect more and more people, even those useful idiots will realise it applies to them as well.

    Like realising that you are part of the 1% you’re decrying when on £30k a year.

  3. Anecdotally, I can’t see how the issues raised affect anyone other than the regulators. Which, sure, has to be a thing, but they make it sound very petty and biased.

    “It’s approach to explaining the use of Greyball”?

  4. If you want anyone to lose all sympathy for London taxi drivers force them to pay for a journey from just inside the M25 to just outside (where the London fare limit doesn’t apply).
    The fare for, say, Heathrow to Windsor outstrips the cost of rebuilding the castle next to Terminal 5.

  5. Sadsack Khan needs the boot. As does the whole Bliar-created “elected Mare” shite.

    O/T –But it looks as if the Fish-Faced Cow is trying for some 2021 extension scam to halt Brexit. According to Breitbart the bitch has been trialing the possibility and doesn’t like the response. Already made 2 complaints myself and more to go. She is an arrogant cunt tho’ and it must be she knows she has little to lose.

    We need to get that pension off her by any means. Throw her to the gutter with nothing along with the rest of the Remainiac scum in her train.

  6. “Nigel Farage is a pillock.”

    In this case, yes. A politician of genius who is slowly losing his touch. But UKIP was always an utter rabble.

    Btw, as I type, BBC WATO is revelling in TFL’s decision…

  7. monoi

    TfL wouldn’t themselves pass qualifying criteria to run a bath never mind London’s Transport system. I’m guessing that the in-house lawyers decided to cook up some make-work mischief – they have previous

    The feckin unions are predictably piling in.

    I have not and never will forgive TfL for removing the congestion charge waiver for (officially less polluting) gas powered cars on the basis that more less polluting cars was an unacceptable revenue loss to them….

  8. Farage didn’t say it’s ‘great news’. He allegedly said to a bystander, while waiting for a cab, that he preferred to get a cab rather than a Uber because Uber drivers are ‘not our people’. Which he denies saying.

    And if he did say it, it seems obvious that he meant that most cabbies are Kippers, or at least right-wing, whereas Uber drivers aren’t. I doubt he would be silly enough to be saying that Uber drivers are immigrants, or anything like that.

  9. In one way, this is great. All those capital dwelling, anti-big business progressives will get a harsh dose of reality.

    “Uber, utter scum American company that don’t pay their taxes and… what? How fucking much for a black cab?”. Maybe get some brain-rewiring going on, boost to the Thatcher t-shirt industry.

  10. Knowing Me, Knowing Steve

    Tel – “Great news for London black cabs today!” – Nigel Farage on Facebook, with a picture of him doing a thumbs up with some taxi drivers.

    Personally, I agree with Alan Partridge on London.

  11. Off Topic but as Murphy’s trying to promote Progressive Pulse Of which he is director) it’s worth introducing his fellow director;

    Peter Dawe, millionaire entrepreneur

    A former UKIP member

    Mr Dawe admitted he “really dislikes” being on a bus

    And on automatic bin collection “Why can’t the bins, when they’re full, drive themselves to the dump?”

    Mr Dawe stood unsuccessfully for UKIP in East Cambridgeshire District Council elections in 2013, but resigned his party membership once Britain voted to leave the European Union.

    The entrepreneur, who described the EU as “evil,” said: “I just see Brussels as a corrupt cesspit of self-interest and self-aggrandizing of the worst sort of politicians.”

    He claimed that toilet paper is no longer as strong as it used to be because of EU regulations (on the back of lobbying by manufacturers) so people have to buy more of it.”

  12. Knowing Me, Knowing Steve

    He claimed that toilet paper is no longer as strong as it used to be because of EU regulations

    When I was at school, they used Izal toilet paper, which was made out of scouring pads and bits of hedgehogs.

    At least we could always recognise the Japanese flag.

  13. On the positive side Mr Khan has just lost the twenty something vote, just as they were being beguiled into thinking Labour were their friend.

  14. And on automatic bin collection “Why can’t the bins, when they’re full, drive themselves to the dump?”

    Lol. Why drive when they could turn into drones and fly there?

  15. Hmm, let’s apply the logic of free markets here.

    If Uber are forced out, does that mean the black cabs win. Actually, no. My bet on the big winner is Adison Lee – they have name recognition (especially if you listen to grime, since the name is seemingly designed for metre and rhyme), a clone of the uber app, and I would assume can produce the marketting material required. It’s not as if Uber cars in London didn’t have to be licensed taxis anyway.

    I would also suggest this might cause other (local?) entrants into the market, or at least reinforce them. I can’t see it being any good for the black cabs though, because they are yesterday’s technologies now (unless they also invest in an app…).

    So this probably won’t be that bad a decision for consumers long term. But as it is government disrupting a market for their own reasons, it is still outright wrong, because it is government playing games with other people’s lives.

  16. Let’s hope Londoners remember this at the next Mayoral election, but I bet they won’t.

    As tradition dictates, they’ll vote whichever way their imam tells them to.

  17. Hang on – Farage was sound on Europe, but if anyone thinks he is any sort of sensible political leader otherwise, welcome to the world of reactionary conservatism.

    Believing the man has particular value in his observations is also a worrying tendency to adopt the leader worship prevalent on the left – and displayed by the wierd tendency of left-wing journalists to assume that Farage is somehow a mouthpiece for everyone who disagrees with said journalists. Perhaps we should just say he has had his time, won his battle, and is now irrelevant.

  18. But the end of that article is absolutely terrifying:

    “A Strathclyde University spokeswoman said: “We’ve apologised for any offence caused to colleagues.

    “The email contained sentiments completely contrary to our institutional values and should not have been sent.

    “It was recalled as soon as it came to our attention and we swiftly issued an apology to staff.””

    WTF? I hope that apology was to the poor bloody staff who had to clean up the mess caused by their vibrant colleagues, but I rather doubt it.

  19. That the Left is standing shoulder to shoulder with people they sneered at as fat white racists (black cab drivers) just a few years ago is one of the more mysterious volte-faces of modern times. Especially as Uber drivers are generally immigrants, and TFL’s decision is clearly one influenced by lobbying, interests and money.

  20. When Oi were a lad the geography teacher at my prep school used to have a pack of Izal bog paper to hand out as tracing paper. And my great aunties used it (in their outside bog! In the 1980s!) The smell of it is like Proust’s madeleines, but not in a good way.

    Khan has obviously just thrown a bung to his GMB union mates. He’s a cunt. Saying he had no influence on the decision is insulting people’s intelligence.

  21. This makes perfect sense, if you assume this is a shakedown, Uber forgot/refused to pay tribute to the mafia boss. Clay Davis is now mayor of London.

  22. I was listening to the radio reports and Mr Uber made many sladerous remarks which I would recommend he withdraw before he is prosecuted.

    “Mr Khan made this decision”. No he didn’t, not only that but he ISN’T ALLOWED to make this sort of decision.
    “TfL want to limit competition” No they don’t, TfL have no limitation on the number of licenses absolutely anybody who qualifies for a license can get a license, the only limitation on the number of licenses is the market.

    Mr Uber said some other things that I can’t remember at the moment, and there was yes ONE of his comments that was a valid criticism, but everything else he said was an outright lie.

  23. Relax, this is just the first move in the usual government-corporate shakedown, whereby Uber promises to toe the line (to some extent) and the rulers eventually agree to allow freedom of commerce. Result? User’s no longer quite Uber, and the former status quo is no longer quite the SQ.

    Quite disgusting, as it always is. But Uber’s not dead in London.

  24. It’s on newsnight now, and I’m screaming at the idiots. They keep going on about comparing Uber taxis with Black Cabs, but they are two completely different transport options. Uber taxis are private hire, black cabs are hackneys, it’s like comparing taxis and buses. The valid comparison is Uber’s private hires with any other private hires.

    Something people forget is that outside London we’ve had private hire licensing for almost 50 years, but in London they’ve only had it for about 15 years, and so the navel-gazing metropolitan set are still unused to the idea that something other than Hackneys exist, and think “taxi” means Hackney.

    When London Private Hire came in the Hackneys were again in the forefront of complaining and trying to stop the opening up of the market. Outside London most Hackneys supported the introduction of Private Hire licensing in the 1970s as it put everybody on a clear legal comparable footing.

  25. “Farage didn’t say it’s ‘great news’.
    He did.”

    He did indeed. Christ. Makes you wonder why the Independent bothered with their overheard-conversation BS piece.

    But as I said, any support he’s offering to the cabbies is about shoring up the right-wing cabbie vote. But as he’s not in UKIP any more does he really need to crawl so obviously to the cab drivers? Basically, I hate all politicians.

  26. “this is just the first move in the usual government-corporate shakedown, whereby Uber promises to toe the line (to some extent) and the rulers eventually agree to allow freedom of commerce. Result? User’s no longer quite Uber, and the former status quo is no longer quite the SQ.
    Quite disgusting, as it always is. But Uber’s not dead in London.”

    Yes, the legal action will go on for years, during which time Uber will operate, until a compromise is reached.

  27. @jgh ”
    “Mr Khan made this decision”. No he didn’t, not only that but he ISN’T ALLOWED to make this sort of decision.

    So why was he on Radio 4 explaining the decision he hadn’t made, rather than someone from Transport For London?

    Khan (Like all politicians) is trying to take the positive from this decision (Banning evil Uber, supporting unionised black cabs) while offloading the negatives (Banning useful Uber, destroying jobs) to TfL.

    If he’s going to try and claim the positives, then he must take on the negatives as well…

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